Pulling the trigger on wheels, Reynolds AR vs ARx
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Write to Boyd and explain what you are looking for. He will reply directly to you, or at least that was my experience. He made me a great deal on some carbon wheels, 44s. The set for about $1000. That said, they are tubulars and he was wanting to move them. I was also looking at some Reynolds in the same size and tubular. They were a lot more expensive. But again, this was my experience and you need to do what makes you feel happy and satisfied.
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I bought a set of the AR41, mounted a Vittoria Corsa Speed tubeless on the front and a Hutchinson Fusion 5 Performance tubeless on the back. No problem with either, the Hutch went on without using levers. Both sealed the bead on the first try with soap and water. First ride the front hub was making noise, a scratching sound for part of each rotation. After the ride the sound was still there, with noticeable drag on the hub when spun off the fork. The noise and drag increased when there was a load on the wheel just rolling across a smooth floor. The rear hub had a lot of freehub drag, to the point where the crank would rotate when the rear wheel was spinning on the workstand. This is unacceptable for a new set of wheels, returned to Reynolds for refund. Maybe the 41X hubs are better.
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Tubulars? Bruh...
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I run GP4000S on my Reynolds SLG 62mm wheels. 25mm...I don't recall it being that difficult to get them on/off. Maybe the first time I put a tire on if new it is a hassle, but after that, no problems. Fixed a flat one time on the side of the road, no problems using just 2 levers, really I just use 1 lever..but having 2 is nice at times.
Not sure about these new wheels AR/ARx, besides some lighter weight/different components/nipple, they appear to be the same.
For the money, Reynolds makes a good wheel IMHO...my 62mm SLGs haven't gone out of true over thousands of miles, tension still good on spokes as well. Would find some used/eBay..that is what I did...non problems....and saved $$$
Not sure about these new wheels AR/ARx, besides some lighter weight/different components/nipple, they appear to be the same.
For the money, Reynolds makes a good wheel IMHO...my 62mm SLGs haven't gone out of true over thousands of miles, tension still good on spokes as well. Would find some used/eBay..that is what I did...non problems....and saved $$$
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I killed my Mavic Carbone Sl jumping a diagonal railroad track and caught the raised lip on the other side at 25mph. Opps that was expensive mistake, Cracked the inner wall between spokes
I order some AR58s, planning to run tubed Panaracer GravelKing 26c because my frame doesn't like the OD of 28c tires. They will be here end of week, hope only one Pedro's yellow lever will work, thats all I carry, or needed to for years.
The diff between the AR and ARX and spoke shape and brass nipples/alum. Wish both came the CX ray flat spokes at this price point but whatever isn't worth the other $250 to me at this time.
I order some AR58s, planning to run tubed Panaracer GravelKing 26c because my frame doesn't like the OD of 28c tires. They will be here end of week, hope only one Pedro's yellow lever will work, thats all I carry, or needed to for years.
The diff between the AR and ARX and spoke shape and brass nipples/alum. Wish both came the CX ray flat spokes at this price point but whatever isn't worth the other $250 to me at this time.
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Just purchased these yesterday. These will be my first carbon wheels. My worry is that my Chris Kings on my aluminum wheels will be hard to beat. They are also 28-32, so this should be interesting.
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Some misinformed replies. I was able to mount Vittoria Corsas on my ARX 58/62 wheels without even using a tire lever. Mounting/dismounting clinchers is a piece of cake.
I did a lot of research before pulling the trigger on these wheels. I couldn't find another wheelset that were deep section (60mm), wide (30mm), relatively light at sub 1700g for only $1600. Pretty unbeatable in terms of value.
Very impressed with these wheels so far. Very fast yet manageable in crosswinds. I love how they are completely flush with my 28mm tires.
I did a lot of research before pulling the trigger on these wheels. I couldn't find another wheelset that were deep section (60mm), wide (30mm), relatively light at sub 1700g for only $1600. Pretty unbeatable in terms of value.
Very impressed with these wheels so far. Very fast yet manageable in crosswinds. I love how they are completely flush with my 28mm tires.
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Ally nipples tend to suck if they're just ally versions of a standard brass nipple. But if they're oversize like Shimano does them, problem solved. Shimano's ally nipples are more reliable than standard brass ones.
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Weren't TL supposed to REMOVE the fear of flats. Now you made it worse ;-)
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I killed my Mavic Carbone Sl jumping a diagonal railroad track and caught the raised lip on the other side at 25mph. Opps that was expensive mistake, Cracked the inner wall between spokes
I order some AR58s, planning to run tubed Panaracer GravelKing 26c because my frame doesn't like the OD of 28c tires. They will be here end of week, hope only one Pedro's yellow lever will work, thats all I carry, or needed to for years.
The diff between the AR and ARX and spoke shape and brass nipples/alum. Wish both came the CX ray flat spokes at this price point but whatever isn't worth the other $250 to me at this time.
I order some AR58s, planning to run tubed Panaracer GravelKing 26c because my frame doesn't like the OD of 28c tires. They will be here end of week, hope only one Pedro's yellow lever will work, thats all I carry, or needed to for years.
The diff between the AR and ARX and spoke shape and brass nipples/alum. Wish both came the CX ray flat spokes at this price point but whatever isn't worth the other $250 to me at this time.
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@emvp I'm prety happy with the wheels, they roll smooth, spin up fast and faster on top end. Heavy head winds suck, I'm 205 can control it fine as an all around wheel. Braking has been very good with their supplied Blue pads. I haven't done any Mt decents with them yet but I don't see it being a problem. Tire install hasn't been bad yet, used Panaracer Gravelking 26 and just put on Rubino Pros 25c over the weekend.
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wanting to get the AR 58/62 set since they are on sale now.
my only problem is that the xdr freehub is a nightmare to find.
even the local distributor in taiwan appear to be out of stock
need to make sure the freehub is available first before i make the purchase on the wheels.
i am considering lightbicycle rims on i9 hubs as an alternative in case the reynolds freehub will take more than a month to source
however, the lifetime warranty that reynolds offer is really hard to bear
my only problem is that the xdr freehub is a nightmare to find.
even the local distributor in taiwan appear to be out of stock
need to make sure the freehub is available first before i make the purchase on the wheels.
i am considering lightbicycle rims on i9 hubs as an alternative in case the reynolds freehub will take more than a month to source
however, the lifetime warranty that reynolds offer is really hard to bear
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I'm struggling to find the difference in these wheels:
https://reynoldscycling.com/collecti...cts/ar-41-x-db
https://reynoldscycling.com/collecti...ducts/ar-41-db
I've found a couple articles that say it's the hubs and spokes and that it's worth the extra $ to pony up for the ARx. Certainly not opposed but am struggling with what exactly that difference is. Does anyone have experience with these or can point me to an article that perhaps I missed in my research?
Probably ordering from LBS Monday or Tues.
https://reynoldscycling.com/collecti...cts/ar-41-x-db
https://reynoldscycling.com/collecti...ducts/ar-41-db
I've found a couple articles that say it's the hubs and spokes and that it's worth the extra $ to pony up for the ARx. Certainly not opposed but am struggling with what exactly that difference is. Does anyone have experience with these or can point me to an article that perhaps I missed in my research?
Probably ordering from LBS Monday or Tues.
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@jsigone thanks for your quick reply and mini-review. Ordered mine and they are arriving tomorrow. I'm also a mid-weight guy (190) and was looking for something for my TT bike as well as my Road bike, essentially an all-around, which the 50-60mm range sounds like should be it.
Will post some pics tomorrow when I get it with my TT
Thanks and happy rolling!
Will post some pics tomorrow when I get it with my TT
Thanks and happy rolling!
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What brand 28mm tire? I'm going to run GP5000s on whatever I decide to get, preferably the 28mm, just wondering if I won't have to go with the 25c since those tires will ride and roll wider on a rim that wide...
I'm wondering if my LBS can shed some light on the tire mounting issue.
I'm wondering if my LBS can shed some light on the tire mounting issue.
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Any of you guys running the recent AR series wheels notice any wheel flex causing brake rub in there rear under load? I just saw a YouTube review of some ARX wheels flexing a lot.
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Maybe you're doing it wrong. I have a set of the Reynolds AR29 DB wheels. I am using Continental GP5000 28c tires and they just about slide on and off the rims with hardly any effort.
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Got my AR58x all mounted and ready to go. First ride tomorrow. This is also my first tubeless setup on GP5000TLS AT 85 PSI to start. The tires were not that bad to mount at all.
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You have to keep both air valves in sync (pointing the same direction) or it ruins your aerodynamics.
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Looks absolutely superb sir.
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- Mount one side of the tire on the rim.
- Inflate the tube just enough so that it has some shape.
- Insert the valve stem into the rim and make sure the tube is seated in the rim all the way around.
- Push up on the valve stem (toward the outer edge of the rim) just a little--enough to seat the bead.
- Move around the rim seating the bead by gently rolling it over the rim edge.
- When you get to the point where it starts to get hard (last few inches) release the air from the tube.
- Go back to the point of the tire where you started and firmly press the tire, on both sides simultaneously, toward the part that is not yet seated on the rim.
- This will give you whatever precious few fractions of millimeters you may need to get the final portion of tire over the rim.
- Starting with one side of the unmounted bead, while the holding the other in place, firmly roll it over the rim edge.
- It may not feel like your moving it very much, but you are. Little bit at a time.
- Switch sides
- Repeat until bead is seated.
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Had a killer ride on her this morning. Put 30 miles on the new setup and I must say, I am very happy with the wheels so far. The cryo blue pads work really well and the stopping power is really nice. I had some Chinese Superteam carbon wheels before and they stopped like garbage in comparison. Very smooth and the tubeless 28mm GP5000TL tires were awesome. Cannot complain at all. One thing I noticed which is boggling my mind, is how much better these do in wind compared to my 500mm Superteam wheels. These are a larger carbon aero wheel yet wind didnt bug me at all. My Superteams were terrible in wind.
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Just mounted AR58/62x with some conti gp5000. Taking for the first run this weekend, 30miler/3400ft elevation. Any feedback on descents? Crosswind factor at ~45-50mph?