Aero vs Lightweight Again
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Normally I try not to wade into threads like this but since you're open to any advice and feedback -- both are nice bikes but I ride with a bunch of pretty good riders on pretty nice bikes and I'm not mature enough to show up for a ride with the most expensive bike and the cheapest legs.
Better to buy a bike that you can grow into as your level progresses, rather than one you will grow out of and feel the need to constantly upgrade.
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If the OP has $4000+ to spend on a bike, why not? When I pass someone slower than me on a bike that costs 5x what my bike costs, all I can say is: nice bike, enjoy it, I wish I could afford it.
Better to buy a bike that you can grow into as your level progresses, rather than one you will grow out of and feel the need to constantly upgrade.
Better to buy a bike that you can grow into as your level progresses, rather than one you will grow out of and feel the need to constantly upgrade.
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If the OP has $4000+ to spend on a bike, why not? When I pass someone slower than me on a bike that costs 5x what my bike costs, all I can say is: nice bike, enjoy it, I wish I could afford it.
Better to buy a bike that you can grow into as your level progresses, rather than one you will grow out of and feel the need to constantly upgrade.
Better to buy a bike that you can grow into as your level progresses, rather than one you will grow out of and feel the need to constantly upgrade.
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Normally I try not to wade into threads like this but since you're open to any advice and feedback -- both are nice bikes but I ride with a bunch of pretty good riders on pretty nice bikes and I'm not mature enough to show up for a ride with the most expensive bike and the cheapest legs.
He was pretty specific on advice and feedback, in context.
I didn't see him asking for cheap shots from the insecure section of the bleachers.
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Wow to be honest I wasn't expecting this. Just to clarify the link I sent above were Canadian sites so in dollar amounts it is closer to $2900 US. Right now, with some of the comments, I am feeling that maybe these bikes are way out of my league. Bikes are expensive in Canada and not much I can do about that.
Do you have the link?
I recently saw a GCN video about pro racers in Dubai. They were interviewing pro riders about their bikes and there was a team that chose Giant TCR's over aero bikes because they are fast and comfortable. You can take that with a grain of salt, but I have three friends who rave about how comfortable the TCR frameset is. You should also look at the Canyon bikes.
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Buy the best bike you can .... why not? Go to the supermarket in your Lamborghini. Life is a one-way trip that gets shorter constantly.
I am a fat old man with asthmatic lungs and a bad heart and not much genetic athletic ability. So I built a lightweight carbon-fiber bike. I spent a little extra to save 80 grams on the pedals ... while I ma 80 pounds overweight .... and if i rode to the potential of this bike i would literally die. My body could not sustain the effort. And I love that bike. i ride it often and never fail to enjoy it. Just taking it off the rack and feeling how light it is brings me joy.
Get yourself the bike You want. it is nobody else's business.
However .... unless you average over 18-20 mph the extra aero isn't going to be a big deal. The TCR should make up for the difference in comfort (which lets you go longer, harder) and lower weight (which plays a tiny role every time you accelerate.) But seriously ... buy the bike which You Like Better.
The funniest part? The guys who really make full use of their bikes---the pros---don't get to ride what they want. Their sponsor hands them some bikes and says, "There you go." And once on the bike, they have to ride the way their Directeurs Sportifs tell them to ride.
You get to pick whichever bike You like best. And you get to ride it Any Way You Want.
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Wow to be honest I wasn't expecting this. Just to clarify the link I sent above were Canadian sites so in dollar amounts it is closer to $2900 US. Right now, with some of the comments, I am feeling that maybe these bikes are way out of my league. Bikes are expensive in Canada and not much I can do about that.
Honestly, a $2900 USD bike is not that outrageous, I'd say on the average weekend ride, half of people are on bikes worth more than that. I would call that a mid range carbon bike. I think there is nothing wrong with spending that kind of money on a nice carbon fiber, Ultegra equipped bike, even for someone who is just getting into the sport (again). If you know you like the sport, and will get enjoyment out of the bike, I would think that is a sensible level of bike to get.
Bike pricing is more like $900-$1500 for a good entry level aluminium bike with Shimano 105, $1500-2500$ for entry level carbon bike with 105, $2500-$3500 for a mid-range carbon bike with Ultegra, $3500-$6000 for a high end carbon bike with Ultegra or Dura Ace, and anything $6000-$10000+ I would call a so-called "superbike" for people who want or need everything to be top of the line.
So in the realm of bike pricing, $2900 is not unreasonable at all.
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Here is a good video for you to put things into perspective: How does a $1500 alloy bike perform versus a top of the range $6000+ carbon bike.
You can decide if the difference is worth it to you... but mind you are looking at something in between both.
You can decide if the difference is worth it to you... but mind you are looking at something in between both.
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Whatever bicycle fits you the best is the one you will ride; no matter if it's up hills or on long, flat stretches. I wouldn't worry about weight or components, just ride. And have fun!
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