deepakvrao

I am currently running 25mm Schwalbe Pro Ones on my regular road bike with calliper brakes. When inflated they measure about 27 on the rims I have

Just ordering a disc brake road bike which can take upto 30 mm tyres. They come with tubed contis, but the wheels are DT Swiss TL ready, so planning to swap to tubeless as soon as possible.

Would 28mm tyres be any slower at all than the 25s? Again the rims are wide, so the 28s would probably inflate to 30mm. Riding will largely be on decent roads.

Any other recommendations for brands? Love the Schwalbes, and I have not had any longevity issues with them, but find them tough to mount.

Sy Reene

I continue to wait for someone to report back on the Pirelli Cinturato tires.. so no recommendation from me..

Barrettscv 

With little doubt, the Continental Grand Prix 5000 TL is the new standard;

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews/continental-grand-prix-5000-tl-2018

Generally speaking, going one size larger reduces rolling resistance. I run 28 on any road bike that will allow them. I'm using 700x28 Continental Grand Prix 4000S II on my Canyon Endurace, these measure 31mm wide. The rolling resistance is very low, indistinguishable from 700x25 Vittoria Corsa on my Ridley Helium SLX.

DrIsotope

Continental GP5000 TR in 25, 28, 32
Giant Gavia AC0/1/2 all available in 25 and 28 wide
Goodyear Eagle All-Season 4 in 25, 28, 30, 32
Hutchinson Fusion 3/5 in 25, Sector in 28
Mavic Yksion Pro in 25 and 28
Maxxis Padrone in 23, 25, 28
Pirelli Cinturato Velo in 26 and 28
Zipp Tangente RT in 25 and 28

I've used Hutchinson Fusion, Giant Gavia AC0, AC1, and Race 1 (which only comes in 25,) Maxxis Padrone, and Schwalbe One/Pro One. The Maxxis Padrone and Hutchinson Fusion have durability on a similar level to the Schwalbe, but as far as I'm concerned are better tires. Expensive, though. Very. I mean, not GP5000 expensive, but here we are. For the online price of a pair of GP5000s, I can get FIVE Giant Gavia AC1s.
That Giant Gavias have given me the best combination of performance and durability. I would love to try the Goodyears, but they are simply not commonly available.

Seattle Forrest

IRC makes excellent road tubeless tires.

WhyFi

I don't know about availability in your neck of the woods, but the Specialize Turbo Tubeless comes in a 28mm and are supposed to be pretty damn good (haven't tried them yet, will probably get a set this year). At $55 each retail, they're not horribly priced for a performance road tubeless tire.

deepakvrao

My neck of the woods is the same as yours. Online US or EU.

I have spec Roubaix on a bike and I love them, but just checked those turbos. 100 dollars a tyre? Where can I get them for 55?

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/sh...s/c/tirestubes

deepakvrao

Thanks. On anotgher note, do you have the Endurace Di2? If so, is the battery easy to remove/

Marcus_Ti

Road tubeless tires are stupid-expensive. Especially good ones.

NoWhammies

Nothing to report on this thread. BUT thanks for posting the question as I had the exact same concern/question. Cheers.

WhyFi

Looks like they went up 10 bucks recently

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-turbo-2bliss-ready/p/156300?color=229699-156300#result-list

johngwheeler

I've read good review of the Hutchison Fusion 5 tubeless - I think they are available in 28mm (TBC). I am using the Schwalbe Pro Ones in 28mm.

I would check and double-check the likely inflated size whatever your choice. My Schwalbe Pro Ones inflate to just under 30mm width (26mm height) on Giant 17mm internal rims. This is small enough to allow 3mm clearance at the fork crown and seat-tube of my Giant TCR, which is about as close as I like to go

I have 28mm Conti GP4000II on some 19mm internal DT Swiss rims (on a 2017 Spec Roubaix), and they inflate to 32mm wide and 30mm tall. They won't fit on the Giant, but have comfortable clearance on the Roubaix.

I expect the wider internal rim width of the DT Swiss hoops allows the Contis to expand more, and I might see a similar change with the Schwalbes on wider rims.

jadocs

I went from 25mm Yksion Pro's to 28mm Yksion Pro's on my T2. I am definitely not slower on the 28's. Interestingly Mavic tire engineers have said that the 28mm Yksion Pro's are faster then the 25mm counterpart. I will preface that with comment with that does not necessarily apply to all tires. It's just what Mavic said about theirs and their testing.

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Psimet2001 

Pirelli, Goodyear, Continental, Maxxis are good options for right now.

Challenge, Donnelly, and I am sure I am forgetting more - have options on the way.

IMHO there are plenty of options to try and my experience with Schwalbe is really bad across the board with all of the customers I have dealt with over the years. The tubeless stuff they have done the best with but in general there is a really problem with consistent quality.

Regardless if you want to try something other than Schwalbe then there are now plenty of options.

Barrettscv 

I have the basic Endurace CF with 105.

My road bike is electronic, it has Sram eTap Red 2x11. It's a great, great system.

deepakvrao

So, what is the clearance left with 31mm tyres on the endurace?

Barrettscv 

Generous, the tires are 31.5mm wide and I can get a 5mm hex wrench between the tire and the chainstays. This is the tightest location, I can get a 6mm wrench around the tire under the fork crown. I was able to install a 700x35 Donnelly USH on the bike, but that was with very little clearance.

deepakvrao

Thanks. Looking at specialised which are 30mm and measure 32 on wide rims.

johngwheeler

Good to hear that bike manufacturers on getting on board with the trend to wider tires, by allowing sufficient frame clearances. Hopefully the days of "will it fit?" anxiety will be a thing of the past soon.

deepakvrao

Another question. Do you think this rim with 28mm Schwalbe Pros would be ok on the Endurace?

Barrettscv 

Hi, yes any full size 28mm whould be reliable and perform well on this rim. I trust Schwalbe, and have The 700x30 S One on a Velocity rim. It's been flawless. It installed easily with a standard floor pump. It holds air well. I've never had a flat or any issue.

deepakvrao

Thanks. I actually meant to ask whether there would be enough clearance on the endurace frame.

Barrettscv 

Absolutely no concern. Any slick tire that measures smaller than 33mm will fit with reasonable clearance. I was able to fit a 700x35 tire, this tire measured 34mm wide across. It had enough clearance to ride on perfectly clean pavement, but without much of a safety factor.

A tire that measures 29-30mm should clear a 6mm hex wrench on this frame.

deepakvrao

Thanks

noodle soup

So did you order the 46mm, or 56mm?