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How much top tube slope is too much?

Old 04-05-19, 02:27 PM
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Any more than this is too much.


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Old 04-05-19, 02:37 PM
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This is likely considered too much.

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Originally Posted by cb400bill
This is likely considered too much.

That’s all rectilinear distortion from yer phone cam.
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Old 04-05-19, 02:47 PM
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Old 04-05-19, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 50PlusCycling
None. A friend of mine used to be an engineer and Cannonade, and they were quite annoyed at the trend toward bikes with sloping top tubes. The sloping tubes mean longer seat posts, and more seat flex, meaning a longer and thicker seat post was needed, the extra length and thickness actually made their prototype stope tube bikes heavier than their standard top tube design. The sloping top tube phenomena was form over function, which Cannondale disliked, Cannondale were the last to get on the sloping tube band wagon, and their current bikes have as little slope as possible.


Personally, I have never paid any attention at all to standover height, as I seldom stand when I'm out riding. If I stop, I keep my butt on the seat, and put a foot on the curb, or keep both feet clipped in, and put my hand on a sign or traffic light post or poll, if there is no curb or pole, I keep one foot clipped in, put the other on the ground, and keep my butt over the right side of the top tube.

I've seen other riders out there sit on the seat with one foot on the ground at a stop light, and I've wondered how they do it. I mean, if the bike fit is correct, the seat should be high enough that when your pedal is at its lowest position your legs should be almost straight. So the height difference doesn't compute. Also, I've never been comfortable leaning on a pole or curb because of all the stuff on the road or weeds/plants, or some other obstacle. At a stop, I usually unclip my right foot and put it on the ground, leaving my left foot clipped in. So I have to stand to support the bike.


But I do agree that road bikes should have as small of a top tube slope as possible. Actually, a fully level top tube looks a bit out of style, so maybe less than 5 degrees of slope is ideal. But definitely not sloping so much that it starts to look like a mountain bike.
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Old 04-05-19, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Sure, both my Seven and my groading rig have sloping TT, even.


Beautiful bikes! Your slope is probably a little more than mine even.
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Old 04-05-19, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
OP if that bike gets you down the road then it's a beautiful bike, sloping top tube or parallel.
At the end of the day, I agree with you. But looks do matter... I have at least an inch of shallowness
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Old 04-05-19, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
The gravel frame I am going to build late this year will most likely have 6 degree of slope to help reduce the number of spacers.
Don't do it! You'll regret it like me.
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Old 04-05-19, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by base2
Horizontal & vertical skew (crudely) corrected. Leaving the tilt alone. This accentuates the slope right to left...So it could be worse.

BF-Bike by Richard Mozzarella, on Flickr

Here is your bike tilt corrected, then the skew touched up. The top tube slope is minimized.

BF Bike2 by Richard Mozzarella, on Flickr

I guess what I'm saying is it's all in your perspective.
Wow, great job photoshopping my pic LOL. I see your point, but I've looked at it many times at eye level when it's on flat surface, and there is definitely slope.
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Old 04-05-19, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Any more than this is too much.


Your pic has the same kind of skew that the guys in the thread were saying about my pic.
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
This is likely considered too much.

Hahaha, that is comical!
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Originally Posted by fuji_owner
Don't do it! You'll regret it like me.
this is 6 degrees. What will I regret about it?
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
this is 6 degrees. What will I regret about it?
I think he was kidding.
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Originally Posted by fuji_owner
So I've had my custom Seven Axiom SL titanium road bike for a few years now. It's been the best bike I've ridden so far. I've already posted on this forum before about how perfect my Ti bike is.

However, a recurring thought nags me. It's about the aesthetics of the bike. I chose a slightly sloped top tube because I felt the standover height would be too high if the top tube were level. But then I've always felt the slope ended up a little too much on the "ugly" side. The spec sheet says it's estimated to be 5 degrees. Here's a picture.

How much top tube slope do you guys have on your bikes, and what do you think is the acceptable limit beyond which it starts to look uncool?

You top tube slope is fine and I really like the look. Great bike.

I prefer a sloping top tube and 5 degrees is just about perfect in my book. I have a custom frame that I had built and that was done with 5.4 degrees of slope.

But the real test is the ride. If that bike fits you perfectly - and it seems it does - and you enjoy the heck out of riding it, then it's right. Form follows function in my book - you've apparently nailed the function aspect; so there's your answer.

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Sloping top tubes are nothing new. Just get over it and ride yer damn bike.

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Originally Posted by fuji_owner
Your pic has the same kind of skew that the guys in the thread were saying about my pic.
Skew them guys!
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Sloping top tubes are nothing new. Just get over it and ride yer damn bike.

Rear tire needs some air. Looks flat.
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Originally Posted by fuji_owner
Hahaha, that is comical!

And... That's why they called them funnybikes!
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I'm pretty sure the ideal is a straight line from headtube to rear dropouts.

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UCI limits slope to 15 degrees. Or was that 16? anyway, I doubt anyone at a race will point to your custom frame and say it's forbidden if it goes beyound that.
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Wow, great job photoshopping my pic LOL.
Could you sort out those mismatched spokes while you're at it?
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I never thought about it much... until now...

I'm sloped.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
And... That's why they called them funnybikes!
It’s a stayer, isn’t it?
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Originally Posted by fuji_owner
So I've had my custom Seven Axiom SL titanium road bike for a few years now. It's been the best bike I've ridden so far. I've already posted on this forum before about how perfect my Ti bike is.

However, a recurring thought nags me. It's about the aesthetics of the bike. I chose a slightly sloped top tube because I felt the standover height would be too high if the top tube were level. But then I've always felt the slope ended up a little too much on the "ugly" side. The spec sheet says it's estimated to be 5 degrees. Here's a picture.

How much top tube slope do you guys have on your bikes, and what do you think is the acceptable limit beyond which it starts to look uncool?


When I'm riding my bike and I look down at the top tube, I cannot tell how much slope it has. And I'm usually looking down at it because I don't want to see how much further that 16% grade I've got to cover.

If you are really worried about it, get a 90's time trial bike and ride that.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Rear tire needs some air. Looks flat.
Those latex tubes lose air like the dickens!
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