How much top tube slope is too much?
#26
• —
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: 11,567
Bikes: Shmikes
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9592 Post(s)
Liked 5,370 Times
in
2,885 Posts
Any more than this is too much.


#27
Bike don't lie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 21,030
Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR gravel Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2949 Post(s)
Liked 5,682 Times
in
3,325 Posts
This is likely considered too much.

#28
• —
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: 11,567
Bikes: Shmikes
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9592 Post(s)
Liked 5,370 Times
in
2,885 Posts
#30
Senior Member
Thread Starter
None. A friend of mine used to be an engineer and Cannonade, and they were quite annoyed at the trend toward bikes with sloping top tubes. The sloping tubes mean longer seat posts, and more seat flex, meaning a longer and thicker seat post was needed, the extra length and thickness actually made their prototype stope tube bikes heavier than their standard top tube design. The sloping top tube phenomena was form over function, which Cannondale disliked, Cannondale were the last to get on the sloping tube band wagon, and their current bikes have as little slope as possible.
Personally, I have never paid any attention at all to standover height, as I seldom stand when I'm out riding. If I stop, I keep my butt on the seat, and put a foot on the curb, or keep both feet clipped in, and put my hand on a sign or traffic light post or poll, if there is no curb or pole, I keep one foot clipped in, put the other on the ground, and keep my butt over the right side of the top tube.
Personally, I have never paid any attention at all to standover height, as I seldom stand when I'm out riding. If I stop, I keep my butt on the seat, and put a foot on the curb, or keep both feet clipped in, and put my hand on a sign or traffic light post or poll, if there is no curb or pole, I keep one foot clipped in, put the other on the ground, and keep my butt over the right side of the top tube.
I've seen other riders out there sit on the seat with one foot on the ground at a stop light, and I've wondered how they do it. I mean, if the bike fit is correct, the seat should be high enough that when your pedal is at its lowest position your legs should be almost straight. So the height difference doesn't compute. Also, I've never been comfortable leaning on a pole or curb because of all the stuff on the road or weeds/plants, or some other obstacle. At a stop, I usually unclip my right foot and put it on the ground, leaving my left foot clipped in. So I have to stand to support the bike.
But I do agree that road bikes should have as small of a top tube slope as possible. Actually, a fully level top tube looks a bit out of style, so maybe less than 5 degrees of slope is ideal. But definitely not sloping so much that it starts to look like a mountain bike.
#31
Senior Member
Thread Starter
#32
Senior Member
Thread Starter
#33
Senior Member
Thread Starter
#34
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Horizontal & vertical skew (crudely) corrected. Leaving the tilt alone. This accentuates the slope right to left...So it could be worse. 

BF-Bike by Richard Mozzarella, on Flickr
Here is your bike tilt corrected, then the skew touched up. The top tube slope is minimized.

BF Bike2 by Richard Mozzarella, on Flickr
I guess what I'm saying is it's all in your perspective.


BF-Bike by Richard Mozzarella, on Flickr
Here is your bike tilt corrected, then the skew touched up. The top tube slope is minimized.

BF Bike2 by Richard Mozzarella, on Flickr
I guess what I'm saying is it's all in your perspective.
#35
Senior Member
Thread Starter
#36
Senior Member
Thread Starter
#37
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 15,896
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 121 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10301 Post(s)
Liked 6,738 Times
in
3,815 Posts
#39
Senior Member
So I've had my custom Seven Axiom SL titanium road bike for a few years now. It's been the best bike I've ridden so far. I've already posted on this forum before about how perfect my Ti bike is.
However, a recurring thought nags me. It's about the aesthetics of the bike. I chose a slightly sloped top tube because I felt the standover height would be too high if the top tube were level. But then I've always felt the slope ended up a little too much on the "ugly" side. The spec sheet says it's estimated to be 5 degrees. Here's a picture.
How much top tube slope do you guys have on your bikes, and what do you think is the acceptable limit beyond which it starts to look uncool?

However, a recurring thought nags me. It's about the aesthetics of the bike. I chose a slightly sloped top tube because I felt the standover height would be too high if the top tube were level. But then I've always felt the slope ended up a little too much on the "ugly" side. The spec sheet says it's estimated to be 5 degrees. Here's a picture.
How much top tube slope do you guys have on your bikes, and what do you think is the acceptable limit beyond which it starts to look uncool?

I prefer a sloping top tube and 5 degrees is just about perfect in my book. I have a custom frame that I had built and that was done with 5.4 degrees of slope.
But the real test is the ride. If that bike fits you perfectly - and it seems it does - and you enjoy the heck out of riding it, then it's right. Form follows function in my book - you've apparently nailed the function aspect; so there's your answer.
j
j.
#40
working on my sandal tan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,560
Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3850 Post(s)
Liked 2,507 Times
in
1,545 Posts
#41
• —
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: 11,567
Bikes: Shmikes
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9592 Post(s)
Liked 5,370 Times
in
2,885 Posts
#42
Should Be More Popular
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 41,689
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
Mentioned: 556 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21219 Post(s)
Liked 7,713 Times
in
3,621 Posts
#43
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 42,729
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11247 Post(s)
Liked 6,206 Times
in
3,252 Posts
#44
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 42,729
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11247 Post(s)
Liked 6,206 Times
in
3,252 Posts
I'm pretty sure the ideal is a straight line from headtube to rear dropouts.

#45
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Florianópolis, Brazil
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
UCI limits slope to 15 degrees. Or was that 16? anyway, I doubt anyone at a race will point to your custom frame and say it's forbidden if it goes beyound that.
#48
• —
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Land of Pleasant Living
Posts: 11,567
Bikes: Shmikes
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9592 Post(s)
Liked 5,370 Times
in
2,885 Posts
#49
.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rocket City, No'ala
Posts: 12,760
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 5.2, 1985 Pinarello Treviso, 1990 Gardin Shred, 2006 Bianchi San Jose
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 24 Times
in
11 Posts
So I've had my custom Seven Axiom SL titanium road bike for a few years now. It's been the best bike I've ridden so far. I've already posted on this forum before about how perfect my Ti bike is.
However, a recurring thought nags me. It's about the aesthetics of the bike. I chose a slightly sloped top tube because I felt the standover height would be too high if the top tube were level. But then I've always felt the slope ended up a little too much on the "ugly" side. The spec sheet says it's estimated to be 5 degrees. Here's a picture.
How much top tube slope do you guys have on your bikes, and what do you think is the acceptable limit beyond which it starts to look uncool?

However, a recurring thought nags me. It's about the aesthetics of the bike. I chose a slightly sloped top tube because I felt the standover height would be too high if the top tube were level. But then I've always felt the slope ended up a little too much on the "ugly" side. The spec sheet says it's estimated to be 5 degrees. Here's a picture.
How much top tube slope do you guys have on your bikes, and what do you think is the acceptable limit beyond which it starts to look uncool?

When I'm riding my bike and I look down at the top tube, I cannot tell how much slope it has. And I'm usually looking down at it because I don't want to see how much further that 16% grade I've got to cover.
If you are really worried about it, get a 90's time trial bike and ride that.

__________________
#50
working on my sandal tan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,560
Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3850 Post(s)
Liked 2,507 Times
in
1,545 Posts