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Old 05-29-19, 09:38 AM
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I have a faded long sleeve Canari jersey that is my fav. This thread has peaked my interest in givng a high end jersey a try though.....
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Originally Posted by jadocs View Post
There is a huge difference in quality, materials and fit. Get yourself a Rapha Core jersey, I think they are going for $80 and you will see/feel the difference. The same can be said for other quality manufacturers. You will never go back to wearing jersey's that fit like t-shirts with pockets in the back.
Was given one of these as a gift not too long ago, and I don't get the hype. IMO the material doesn't have a great feel on your skin. It is very breathable and light, but the fit isn't my favorite either. My team is using this jersey and IMO it's worth every penny-

https://vie13.com/product/euro-mens-...sleeve-jersey/

Fit is excellent, it's durable, breathable, light, dries quickly, has nice pockets that are easy to reach but hold firm so keys and goodies don't bounce around, etc. I know one of these is 6 or 7 times as expensive as a ****ty generic ebay jersey, but it's worth it to me.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP View Post
Was given one of these as a gift not too long ago, and I don't get the hype. IMO the material doesn't have a great feel on your skin. It is very breathable and light, but the fit isn't my favorite either. My team is using this jersey and IMO it's worth every penny-

https://vie13.com/product/euro-mens-...sleeve-jersey/

Fit is excellent, it's durable, breathable, light, dries quickly, has nice pockets that are easy to reach but hold firm so keys and goodies don't bounce around, etc. I know one of these is 6 or 7 times as expensive as a ****ty generic ebay jersey, but it's worth it to me.
What about the C-ville company, Cutaway USA? I don't have any of their cycling stuff, so no experience. Looking at the website, it is on the BIG $ level. Is it good quality? If so, we need to be pimping them hard.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
For $20 I'm willing to try one from Ebay. Links to something good? Full zip, solid colors or tasteful geometrics ( think Rapha.) No cheesy cartoon characters or funny sayings, accurate size chart. Thanks!
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3296...6b643c00RWNKZi
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
What about the C-ville company, Cutaway USA? I don't have any of their cycling stuff, so no experience. Looking at the website, it is on the BIG $ level. Is it good quality? If so, we need to be pimping them hard.
My team switched from Cutaway to Vie 13 last year, I still have a ton of Cutaway stuff (and coincidentally had dinner with the founder/owner last night, he's awesome). I'd say their bibs are the best I've ever worn, and the jerseys feel and fit great but the zippers on mine tend to corrode. I do know the current stuff he's making has a new type of zipper so that may be a moot point. Def recommend them if people are looking for higher end stuff designed by a local company.

FWIW, they do manufacture it in Taiwan, if that matters to anyone.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP View Post
My team switched from Cutaway to Vie 13 last year, I still have a ton of Cutaway stuff (and coincidentally had dinner with the founder/owner last night, he's awesome). I'd say their bibs are the best I've ever worn, and the jerseys feel and fit great but the zippers on mine tend to corrode. I do know the current stuff he's making has a new type of zipper so that may be a moot point. Def recommend them if people are looking for higher end stuff designed by a local company.

FWIW, they do manufacture it in Taiwan, if that matters to anyone.
There it is for the rest of the thread. If you are looking for good quality cycling apparel that is BIG $ level, give them a try.

https://www.cutaway.us/
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Spexcel, aliexpress, $22USD, patience for package arrival

Great fit/fabric and zipper. Sleeves are a bit longer("aero") with a wider cuff band that's very comfortable.
42"/108cm chest, 190lbs. I bought the XL, chart describes it as "105cm".
Chinese sizing may not accommodate bigger US riders. XXL is their max size,112cm chest.

Caveat:None of my jerseys were bought at more than $60.

Been very pleased with this one:





https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3282...65323c00WAA5mf

"Free Shipping to US via ePacket.
Expected delivery on 0 6/23."

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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
There it is for the rest of the thread. If you are looking for good quality cycling apparel that is BIG $ level, give them a try.

https://www.cutaway.us/
Phil (Cutaway owner) is also sponsoring my buddy who is about to do the Trans-Am race, so that's cool-

https://www.styleweekly.com/richmond...t?oid=14615068
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
There it is for the rest of the thread. If you are looking for good quality cycling apparel that is BIG $ level, give them a try.

https://www.cutaway.us/
"He sure got a purdy mouth, ain't he?"
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
hopefully, the answer isn't "a $100 better zipper"
I have an Arc'teryx jacket, after 8 years of constant use the zipper failed, the slider itself came apart. Otherwise the jacket looked brand new, and functionally it was perfect for me. Cost more than $100 to have the zipper replaced, I used a company that does good work. They haven't made that jacket for years, I couldn't just buy another one.

Anyway, yeah, zippers are important.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP View Post
Phil (Cutaway owner) is also sponsoring my buddy who is about to do the Trans-Am race, so that's cool-

https://www.styleweekly.com/richmond...t?oid=14615068
I don't know how good of a cyclist your buddy is, but........he could make a good living in a not going to name it industry with that sweet stache and sideburns he is sporting! He would have to be up to the performance standards of course, but he has the look.

I'll be sure to follow him on his journey. That's a good story. Thanks for the link.

What/who is your current team? MTT starts this weekend. The streets will be crowded for a while. I'll be on the lookout for you.
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Originally Posted by MSchott View Post
Those look great but you are paying a lot for that great fit. A lot.
Sale prices are competitive with anything else out there.

Monzamilano 1.24 - $70
https://chpt3.com/collections/sale/p...nt=52717577540

Onemorelap 1.22 - $89
https://chpt3.com/collections/sale/p...nt=39293998852


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Old 05-29-19, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP View Post
Was given one of these as a gift not too long ago, and I don't get the hype. IMO the material doesn't have a great feel on your skin. It is very breathable and light, but the fit isn't my favorite either. My team is using this jersey and IMO it's worth every penny-

https://vie13.com/product/euro-mens-...sleeve-jersey/

Fit is excellent, it's durable, breathable, light, dries quickly, has nice pockets that are easy to reach but hold firm so keys and goodies don't bounce around, etc. I know one of these is 6 or 7 times as expensive as a ****ty generic ebay jersey, but it's worth it to me.
This is absolutely not intended to be a knock (their stuff does look nice), but this made me lol -

Available Sizes - 5XS to 5XL
On one hand, it's absurd. On the other, it seems like it might make sense.
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
I don't know how good of a cyclist your buddy is, but........he could make a good living in a not going to name it industry with that sweet stache and sideburns he is sporting! He would have to be up to the performance standards of course, but he has the look.

I'll be sure to follow him on his journey. That's a good story. Thanks for the link.

What/who is your current team? MTT starts this weekend. The streets will be crowded for a while. I'll be on the lookout for you.


Current team is called Sweet Spot Cycling, they run a bike trainer studio in Lakeside. The owner won Cross Nationals in his age group last year so at least one of us isn't a wannabe! I'm actually doing Bike MS this weekend from Varina out to Williamsburg and back, should be a lot of riders out that way all weekend.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
"He sure got a purdy mouth, ain't he?"

My buddy who wears one of these regularly is also a talented banjo player, so...
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
For $20 I'm willing to try one from Ebay. Links to something good? Full zip, solid colors or tasteful geometrics ( think Rapha.) No cheesy cartoon characters or funny sayings, accurate size chart. Thanks!
Edit, I guess these aren't ebay, but Aliexpress is a safe website to order from.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2019...65734c4du6rb8A
This one is very fitted, extremely stretchy, and has longer sleeves. Minimal collar for those who hate crappy collars, haha! No logos! Also uses that "snakeskin" (I don't know what to call it) pattern lightweight fabric on the arms and sides. This is my new go-to cheapo jersey.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Sedr...27424c4dcfxubn
These are also pretty good, the fit is a little looser (but still fitted), uses the older style, less stretchy fabric with shorter sleeves. A bit hotter than the above jersey style. Some of these are ugly, but others have a decent pattern on it. Most of these have some kind of logo, but it's not very obtrusive IMO. I've not seen these priced this low before...crazy cheap!

I've bought several of both of these styles, and they are very well made. No fading, no rips, tears, loose stitching, etc. Zippers all work fine still. I still like my brand name stuff, but these are more than acceptable.
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I think these threads about cost of things are just silly. You need to find what fits you. I find Bontrager Bibs fit good and Primal jerseys. Would love to try a Castelli or Rapha but they are not available to try on.

I would prefer if companies could do sizing that makes sense . I shouldn’t be a Large in one brand, XL in another and XXL in another.
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I'm quite late to the discussion but I wanted to answer the original question with an input about my two most expensive jerseys. One is a Sportful Celsius and the other is a Le Col Hors Categorie Hex

Sportful R&D Celsius MSRP $143.99
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These are designed for all day riding when it starts cold and becomes warm or hot later in the day. Sounds perfect for a mountain ride where the base is much cooler than the higher elevation areas. The price point comes into play because it's part of Sportful's Research and Development sector that spent years into making a jersey that otherwise seemed impossible. How do you create a jersey that can keep you warm when it's cool but still keep you cool when it's warm?

The SS18 version is on sale now for around $85 with additional discounts around 20%, more or less depending on the outlet. Just like the rest of their jerseys these are race day fit with tight sleeves, shallow pockets that are tight to the body, and a high quality zipper. Do they perform as described? Somewhat, but really I just find them to be warm. Not hot and not cool, just somewhere in the middle. I mostly use it in the wet.

Le Col Hors Categorie Hex MSRP $189.39/£150

THIS was a waste of money. THIS is the kind of jersey that just says I have money and don't know how to spend it.

Where to begin? These are advertised as a top level race day jersey with none other than five time Olympic gold medalist and world champion Sir Bradley Wiggins himself wearing them. Race jerseys fit tightly to avoid drag. Race day jerseys have shallow pockets because riders aren't shoving teddy bears and souvenirs inside them. Race day jerseys are made from lightweight breathable material because typically the rider is sweating profusely either over a long distance or a quick short distance.

This jersey failed on all aspects. The torso is loose, and checking other reviews this doesn't seem uncommon. The arms have an obscene amount of silicone grippers for some reason. Huge deep pockets in the back that fit my entire arm in each of them. And the material is like nothing I've seen on any other jersey, it's heavier and less breathable than expected. I would buy this product if it was on sale for $35, and then wear it once a month just to look like a posh butthead.

Conclusion, more expensive jerseys cost what they do in order to give racers a competitive advantage, albeit miniscule. $25 jerseys can do the job. My POC Fondo Light has an MSRP of $130 but was on sale for $30, I call it cheap because it's just an overpriced version of some generic jerseys I've worn. I've had a spill in my Sportful jerseys over gravel and the clothing surprisingly didn't rip. My POC had one spill and it was completely ruined from the arms all the way up the collar. Less durable material. You really get what you pay for. Usually. Unless you don't.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Sale prices are competitive with anything else out there.

Monzamilano 1.24 - $70
https://chpt3.com/collections/sale/p...nt=52717577540

Onemorelap 1.22 - $89
https://chpt3.com/collections/sale/p...nt=39293998852


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How are the shipping prices and lead times?
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
Proper decorum clearly states that one must be wearing a BIG $ Jersey to attempt the bidon flip. I'm guessing it's the same for the back bottle balance as well. If you are trying to get noticed, a Cheap @ss jersey won't do.
EXCEPT, when you have mastered the bidon flip as a form of mockery of the more serious cyclists. Which I mean euphemistically.
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
How are the shipping prices and lead times?
I've not ordered direct from CHPT3

The products I've purchased were from Sigma Sports. Shipping time was reasonable but they charge $12 flat rate.


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Chapter III is where it's at now.

Fabric is second to none and they use actual chest sizes in one inch increments - 38, 39, 40 and so forth. Fit is perfect - not loose but not painted on either.

Unlike some brands (Assos, a-hem) with frighteningly delicate zippers, those on Chapter III jerseys are substantial. They don't feel like they are going to break every time they are touched.

Lots of small details and classy styling, not gaudy or cartoonish like some of the latest style du jour. I could name names

Patient shoppers can find them at very deep discount. I got a Forbici 1.25 for $89 last September. I want a 1.28 Milan San Remo.

The Chapter III website has some stuff on sale right now including the OneMoreLap 1.22 for about $89 and the MonzaMilano for $70, depending on exchange rate.


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I don't carry cargo when I ride. Sometimes I'm out for a while, conditions can change, and I need to get it right before I leave. If you're not just riding around the neighborhood a good clothes are important.
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hi guys,

i gotta wonder why pay BIG $ for a jersey? there are plenty of nice looking jerseys on eBay for $20, and then there are those that cost $140
One word: snob appeal.

Seriously, there's always a point of diminishing return that you need to learn and hopefully live by. With shorts, that's about $60. After that the quality curve take a sharp down turn and the rest is just name.

The only way I'd pay big money for a jersey would be if it were unique or of a limited edition. Even then I doubt if I'd go over $100 for it.
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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post
One word: snob appeal.

Seriously, there's always a point of diminishing return that you need to learn and hopefully live by. With shorts, that's about $60. After that the quality curve take a sharp down turn and the rest is just name.
Sorry but that's just wrong. I've worn many, many different brands over the past 40+ yrs. Assos bibs are by far the best fitting and I love the quality. Others may differ. FWIW, I won't pay more that $125 for bibs but they are worth every cent.
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Originally Posted by bruce19 View Post
Sorry but that's just wrong. I've worn many, many different brands over the past 40+ yrs. Assos bibs are by far the best fitting and I love the quality. Others may differ. FWIW, I won't pay more that $125 for bibs but they are worth every cent.
Shorts only Jeeves. I've worn from $30-$85. And although the more expensive ones felt great (mostly due to more panels) they weren't anymore supportive nor durable than their $40 equivalents.
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