What is your cholesterol level?
06-30-05, 11:12 PM
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some of the myths about Cholesterol come to mind. your body proces more then you can use. if you eat no natural Cholesterol your body can produce more then usual. really low Cholesterol can be a problem too. high Cholesterol does not have to be bad either.
07-01-05, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
high holesterol level can lead to heart attack or stroke.
but what you've said here is not necessarily true.
The article on the below link cites no less than 44 references!!
"LDL Cholesterol Does NOT Cause Atherosclerosis or Heart Disease.
How much longer will the medical establishment keep lying to us?
By Anthony Colpo,
May 29, 2005
The above statement runs counter to everything your doctor, the media, and allegedly 'respectable' and 'impartial' health organizations have ever told you."
https://www.theomnivore.com/LDL_May_2005.html
but wait, there's more
https://www.theomnivore.com/Saturated...olesterol.html
https://www.theomnivore.com/
I'll keep posting these links 'til the word gets around
07-01-05, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I know it's hard to believe because we've been told the opposite for so long,
but what you've said here is not necessarily true.
The article on the below link cites no less than 44 references!!
"LDL Cholesterol Does NOT Cause Atherosclerosis or Heart Disease.
How much longer will the medical establishment keep lying to us?
By Anthony Colpo,
May 29, 2005
The above statement runs counter to everything your doctor, the media, and allegedly 'respectable' and 'impartial' health organizations have ever told you."
https://www.theomnivore.com/LDL_May_2005.html
but wait, there's more
https://www.theomnivore.com/Saturated...olesterol.html
https://www.theomnivore.com/
I'll keep posting these links 'til the word gets around
but what you've said here is not necessarily true.
The article on the below link cites no less than 44 references!!
"LDL Cholesterol Does NOT Cause Atherosclerosis or Heart Disease.
How much longer will the medical establishment keep lying to us?
By Anthony Colpo,
May 29, 2005
The above statement runs counter to everything your doctor, the media, and allegedly 'respectable' and 'impartial' health organizations have ever told you."
https://www.theomnivore.com/LDL_May_2005.html
but wait, there's more
https://www.theomnivore.com/Saturated...olesterol.html
https://www.theomnivore.com/
I'll keep posting these links 'til the word gets around
I'm starting a local chapter if the Weston A Price Foundation in Canberra, and Anthony Colpo is right in line with WAPF. https://www.westonaprice.org and here's an orticle from a commom source. https://www.westonaprice.org/moderndi...s_cholest.html
A high fat traditional food diet has helped my health greatly.
Regards, Anthony
07-01-05, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben Cousins
The Palaeolithic diets people are complete nutters. I would not take anything they say seriously. They honestly believe there were people in prehistoric times that lived for 200 years.
PS You look a bit like Graham Obree in that pic
07-01-05, 03:38 AM
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You have steroid hormones. Cholesterol is the precursor to all steroid hormones in your body. Your body does not produce any cholesterol. You need to eat it.
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Originally Posted by AnthonyG
https://www.cdc.gov/cvh/library/fs_cholesterol.htm
https://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=183
Your health is too important to rely on gibberish.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
I'd like to counter the pseudo-science in the above URLs with these, from reputable sources:
https://www.cdc.gov/cvh/library/fs_cholesterol.htm
https://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=183
Your health is too important to rely on gibberish.
https://www.cdc.gov/cvh/library/fs_cholesterol.htm
https://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=183
Your health is too important to rely on gibberish.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats.html
remember studies have to be paid by someone. usually someone who beninfits.
we had some big myths that all fats and all foods cholesteral are horrible for you. this is getting proven wrong. you cna't belive everything the goverment says about or diet. just look at the wacky food pyrimid that was worked out by the corperations.
look at all the foods and drugs the FDA has approved that are very bad for us or at the least not very good.
07-01-05, 09:52 AM
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i think we all have better things to worry about... war, crime, air pollution, drivers on cell phones, drivers with road rage, etc...
07-01-05, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chzman
i think we all have better things to worry about... war, crime, air pollution, drivers on cell phones, drivers with road rage, etc...
If you're hittin' 50, 60 or 70, heart health could well be you primary concern
07-01-05, 12:41 PM
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Well either way, im sure we can agree having a higher ratio of HDL to LDL is good for you Even if my TC is 92
Even if my TC is 92
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I'm only 40 so I'm too young to worry about things like cholesterol.
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It just so happens I had mine tested a couple weeks ago.
Chol: 118
Triglyc: 62
HDL: 47
Calc LDL: 59
Risk LDL: 1.25
I have a typical diet (not a vegetarian), and have just been riding for a little over 2 months now.
Chol: 118
Triglyc: 62
HDL: 47
Calc LDL: 59
Risk LDL: 1.25
I have a typical diet (not a vegetarian), and have just been riding for a little over 2 months now.
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how do you find out your cholestoral anyway? can you just go to a doc in the box and they will tell you?
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Originally Posted by ChAnMaN
how do you find out your cholestoral anyway? can you just go to a doc in the box and they will tell you?
07-01-05, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RD Olivaw
Go to a Dr. and tell them you want to do full blood work. Among other things, you will get your cholesterol numbers.
Also you would get kidney, liver, function, wbc count, etc.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
I'd like to counter the pseudo-science in the above URLs with these, from reputable sources:
https://www.cdc.gov/cvh/library/fs_cholesterol.htm
https://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=183
Your health is too important to rely on gibberish.
https://www.cdc.gov/cvh/library/fs_cholesterol.htm
https://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=183
Your health is too important to rely on gibberish.
Ahh science,
I will put forward an argument that "Science" is in-fact the dominant religion of the western world at this point in time!
You don't believe me?
Well I will ask this question. What is the "Scientific method" and who published the "Scientific study" that proves it works? Don't know?
The answer is that none of this exists yet you have faith in science. You believe in something you don't understand. Just like Christians or Muslims believe in God.
Now of course your going to disagree with me but this is because I'm committing heresy, not because your going to present any of the evidence. Now I believe that science has a lot to offer us, that is if any is done and rather than being 'Pseudo-Science" the work of Dr Weston A Price is scientifically very important.
It's called a "Control study". A control study is the basis for ANY real science because without it all you have is uncontrolled statistical correlation. NOT science and that's my point. There is no science behind the current mainstream dietary advice.
You should check out http//:www.westonaprice.org as it's a real eye opener.
Regards, Anthony
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No idea... but my resting HR is in the 40's...
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Mine is 412. YEAH BABY!!!!!
Give me some more Krispy Kremes.
Give me some more Krispy Kremes.
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Originally Posted by chzman
well, im pretty far from vegan. i grew up on a farm raising livestock (and eating them too). but i do eat alot of soy and non-red meat products. vegans are the odd ones, and i really respect what you stand for, but its something i could never do.
Besides, if man had not started eating meat, we would still be living in trees.
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Originally Posted by dfw
If God had not intended for us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them taste so good.
Besides, if man had not started eating meat, we would still be living in trees.
Besides, if man had not started eating meat, we would still be living in trees.
non sequitor
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