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Why did Titanium not take off amongst Pros?

Old 08-29-19, 03:53 PM
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People are happy with mediocre mass-produced plastic bikes, and pro's ride what they are given.
I have a Moots VaMoots 2013 and must say it's the best TI I've ever had! Over years, I've owned several classic steel bikes, aluminum (the worst), carbon fiber, and titanium. I now have one bike and that is Moots, it has replace all the others, which I have sold. I bought the Moots used, had to travel the La Port Indiana, I live in Chicago and it was worth it, the fit and the cost (about a fifth of a new one)! Your Moots looks like mine, hope it ride as good, like mine!



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Old 08-29-19, 05:16 PM
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It is refreshing to see Campagnolo tech among myriad of Shimanos.
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Old 08-29-19, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tankist View Post
It is refreshing to see Campagnolo tech among myriad of Shimanos.
Campagnolo is beautiful. Shimano is ugly. I would always get Campy tech if I could afford it. Luckily I got it on my Ti bike posted above.
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Old 08-30-19, 05:56 AM
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Ron Skarin on Teledyne Titan, '76 or '77.
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As long as we're sharing photos, here's my Seven set up for randonneuring with 2014 SR.
If you're going to spend the money on a titanium frame, you might as well spend the extra couple hundred bucks on campagnolo so there is no doubt in anyone's mind that you are a true connisour.
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Old 08-30-19, 08:56 AM
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Ron Skarin on Teledyne Titan, '76 or '77.
I know Ron. Great guy still riding and doing well.
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Old 08-30-19, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Anyone want to see a rare photo of my ti bike?
O.k. If you insist.

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Old 08-30-19, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
O.k. If you insist.
Imagine how much more awesome it would look with super record.
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Old 08-31-19, 01:47 PM
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So I can see there is a definite following of Ti for old guys that like to keep their bike for years and years.
But I do not see how that relates to why a Pro would want one for racing on.
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Old 08-31-19, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean V View Post
So I can see there is a definite following of Ti for old guys that like to keep their bike for years and years.
But I do not see how that relates to why a Pro would want one for racing on.
Because their sponsoring bike companies only make mass-produced CF as their top of the range bikes.
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Originally Posted by kingston View Post
Imagine how much more awesome it would look with super record.
look or perform?

I love Campagnolo, but it simply doesn't work as well as Shimano.
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Old 08-31-19, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
look or perform?

I love Campagnolo, but it simply doesn't work as well as Shimano.
Looks. I've never used Shimano brifters, but I've heard different people claim that both perform better, so I assume they're both fine and it comes down to personal preference. I'm used to the thumb/finger thing so I would be reluctant to switch at this point. Dura Ace and Super Record are both far better than my abilities warrant anyway.
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Old 08-31-19, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kingston View Post
Looks. I've never used Shimano brifters, but I've heard different people claim that both perform better, so I assume they're both fine and it comes down to personal preference. I'm used to the thumb/finger thing so I would be reluctant to switch at this point. Dura Ace and Super Record are both far better than my abilities warrant anyway.
but you own both DA and SR.

You don't have to be a professional to enjoy high end components.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
but you own both DA and SR.

You don't have to be a professional to enjoy high end components.
Arguably, 105 and Chorus respectively for each brand, offer the same functionality, albeit adding some weight. So is the enjoyment the aesthetics, or the .5 watt gain in speed?

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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
look or perform?

I love Campagnolo, but it simply doesn't work as well as Shimano.
Ummmmmm, disagree.
Have run all 3 of the major groups over the past 10 years and wont go back to SRAM or Shimano.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
Arguably, 105 and Chorus respectively offer the same functionality, albeit adding some weight. So is the enjoyment the aesthetics, or the .5 watt gain in speed?
2019 DA and SR both look like crap to me, but they work better than the most beautiful components ever made(1991 Campagnolo C-Record).
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Originally Posted by sumgy View Post
Ummmmmm, disagree.
Have run all 3 of the major groups over the past 10 years and wont go back to SRAM or Shimano.
It's okay. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Because their sponsoring bike companies only make mass-produced CF as their top of the range bikes.
Ok.
So what properties does a Ti bike have that a Pro rider would choose it over Carbon for a race bike?
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Old 08-31-19, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean V View Post
Ok.
So what properties does a Ti bike have that a Pro rider would choose it over Carbon for a race bike?
Probably none because Ti bikes can be built to suit the rider needs (just like steel, aluminium, Scandium, CF and any other material).
It is not that any material is better really, because you can get heavy, flexy, poorly handling bikes made out of any material.
You can also get lightweight, stiff, well handling bikes made out of these same materials.
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Originally Posted by Dean V View Post
Ok.
So what properties does a Ti bike have that a Pro rider would choose it over Carbon for a race bike?
None. A particular rider might like the ride better, maybe find it more comfortable on cobbles, gravel of the Giro, but very specific to THAT rider. I doubt the team would be happy mix/matching frames to that extent though.

Not hard to see a Ti meeting the weight point for UCI racing, so a wash there.

Best looking bikes in the peloton though.
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Originally Posted by sumgy View Post
Ummmmmm, disagree.
Have run all 3 of the major groups over the past 10 years and wont go back to SRAM or Shimano.
Shimano's gear is the product of more engineering resources than any other brand.
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