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Bring My Own Wheels For a Fondo?

Old 10-03-19, 02:42 PM
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Bring My Own Wheels For a Fondo?

I'm doing Phil's Fondo on the 27th in Malibu CA. I've rented a bike for the occasion and was considering bringing my wheels to put on the rental. The Fondo itself is is 110mi with 12k feet of climbing, the bike I've been able to rent is a Tarmac Disc Sport. It's an alright bike, but I have some nice new Aeolus pro 5s with gp5000 tubeless tires and Dura-Ace rotors just lying around. I'm flying Delta Air Lines and was wondering if it was feasible to put my wheels in a wheel bag and simply bring them as luggage.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Am I likely to get charged crazy fees? I don't own a wheel bag and would need a suggestion on a cheap 2 wheel capacity suggestion.

As a side note, the shop I'm renting from has no problem with me using these wheels on their bike and has offered to calibrate the calipers so there wouldn't be any rub.
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Old 10-03-19, 02:53 PM
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I'd be more worried about them being damaged in a soft wheel bag but probably ok. I'd pull the rotors at the very least and make sure the tires aren't too high on pressure
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Old 10-03-19, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
I'd be more worried about them being damaged in a soft wheel bag but probably ok. I'd pull the rotors at the very least and make sure the tires aren't too high on pressure
If you have any chaaaeeep recommendations for a hard wheel box that would work I'm all ears, that is a solid point about the rotors though.
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Old 10-03-19, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by firebird854 View Post
If you have any chaaaeeep recommendations for a hard wheel box that would work I'm all ears, that is a solid point about the rotors though.
Cardboard wheel boxes
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Old 10-03-19, 07:13 PM
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Maybe just mail them to yourself.

Tubeless? De-goo them. Deflate them. Have about 4 CO2 & 2 Stans singles sent to the hotel to reinflate reset them.

Make sure the Tarmac doesn't have an SCS hub. Bring basic tools so you can adjust the rear brake caliper and discs. Take the discs off the wheels.
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Old 10-03-19, 07:53 PM
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Enjoy it, don’t make it a chore. Ride the wheels that are on the rental bike.
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It's not a race, just enjoy the rental.

Unless you are up front at the start, you will be slowed down by the volume of people.
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Check that your rotor sizes match the rental bike.
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Old 10-04-19, 12:06 AM
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I'd be worried about them being damaged on the flight. It's not like they'll be the only luggage on the plane.

LBS has plenty of cardboard wheel boxes. Any LBS. They're free, they were just going to put them in the recycling.

But I'd still leave them behind of it were me.
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Originally Posted by pickettt View Post
Enjoy it, don’t make it a chore. Ride the wheels that are on the rental bike.
That right there ^^^^^^^^

Bringing a set of wheels to put on someone else's bike introduces more opportunity for problems. Ride the rental.
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Old 10-04-19, 04:11 AM
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I did this year's Seattle to Portland ride on a rental. I brought my own seat but not my Vision 40 wheels. I didn't really miss the wheels - I don't think it would have been worth the hassle.

One thing I did hit: I brought my saddle bag with tools, flat repair, etc. No problems on the way out, TSA in Portland on the way back took my CO2 cartridges, as apparently they are verboten. So, either bring a mini-pump or plan on donating a few CO2 cartridges in one or more airports...
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I would either bring my own bike or just ride the rental. Bringing my own wheels is almost as much hassle as bringing my own bike with all the extra hassle of dealing with a rental.
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Old 10-04-19, 05:38 AM
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I have a hard bike box and the only damage I've ever had in shipping is to the wheels. I just think the wheelset is the weak point of a bike when shipping.

Point is, like Kingston said, it'd be as much hassle (and likely same risk of damage) just to ship the wheels as to ship the entire bike.
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I'd probably just have the bike store I'm renting the bike from re-inflate the tires, I do have tubeless, will I have to take the tires completely off? Or just deflate them down to like 30 psi? I am running 120mm rotors front and back which is a little different (normally there's at least one 160mm in there), but they said they'd "calibrate the calipers", do you think this might cause some issues? Also, I know it's not a race, but why have nice wheels if I don't use them?
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Since you are flying Delta, you should just save the rental fee and bring your bike. Delta just recently dropped the extra bike fee. buy or rent a hard sided bike box, and enjoy! my experience (one trip) is that TSA is the biggest problem/issue, they dont handle the bikes properly, and they have no liability!
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Old 10-04-19, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kingston View Post
I would either bring my own bike or just ride the rental. Bringing my own wheels is almost as much hassle as bringing my own bike with all the extra hassle of dealing with a rental.
This. Just use the rental and save yourself the headaches/hassles.
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bring your saddle and pedals, but leave the wheels at home.
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Originally Posted by firebird854 View Post
I'd probably just have the bike store I'm renting the bike from re-inflate the tires, I do have tubeless, will I have to take the tires completely off? Or just deflate them down to like 30 psi? I am running 120mm rotors front and back which is a little different (normally there's at least one 160mm in there), but they said they'd "calibrate the calipers", do you think this might cause some issues? Also, I know it's not a race, but why have nice wheels if I don't use them?
SL6 Tarmac uses 160mm up front 140mm out back. I'm guessing when they say "calibrate", they just mean adjust the calipers so they don't rub, I doubt they're gonna put adapters on to work with 120mm rotors, but I could be wrong. I would just ride the rental as-is.
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Too many ways for this to go wrong. If you can't make your bike work (try hard) use the rental as is.
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Originally Posted by firebird854 View Post
I'd probably just have the bike store I'm renting the bike from re-inflate the tires, I do have tubeless, will I have to take the tires completely off? Or just deflate them down to like 30 psi? I am running 120mm rotors front and back which is a little different (normally there's at least one 160mm in there), but they said they'd "calibrate the calipers", do you think this might cause some issues? Also, I know it's not a race, but why have nice wheels if I don't use them?
Do you want a headache? Because this is how you get a headache.

If you really want to use your wheels, bring the bike that goes with it. Most bikes nowadays use 140 to 160mm rotors.
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Old 10-04-19, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mgopack42 View Post
Since you are flying Delta, you should just save the rental fee and bring your bike. Delta just recently dropped the extra bike fee. buy or rent a hard sided bike box, and enjoy! my experience (one trip) is that TSA is the biggest problem/issue, they dont handle the bikes properly, and they have no liability!
Whhahhahaaaaaaa I checked a few months ago and it was the definition of prohibitively expensive. Let me check again quick.
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Whhahhahaaaaaaa I checked a few months ago and it was the definition of prohibitively expensive. Let me check again quick.
"Bicycles

Bicycles, non-motorized touring or single seat racing, are allowed as checked baggage on most flights, with the exception of certain Delta Connection® carriers.
  • Standard baggage allowance and fees based on cabin and travel region apply
  • Bicycles weighing over 50 lbs. will be charged the applicable excess weight fee
  • If the outside linear dimensions (length + width + height) exceed 115 linear inches (292 cm) or exceeds 100 lbs, the item will not be accepted
  • Items in excess of baggage allowance will be subject to additional or overweight baggage fees
  • A limited liability release form must be signed by the passenger in the case that the bike is not properly packed
  • If the bicycle is packaged in a hard shell case specifically designed for transporting bicycles, then a limited release form is not required
  • If the bicycle is packaged in a soft sided travel bag or anything other than a hard shell case, a limited release form will need to be signed
Delta is not responsible for damage noted at the time of check in or damage due to over packing the bag."

Note that you have to keep bike+box under 50 lbs. for there to be no additional charge above the normal checked bag fee. I could never to that with my touring bike so I have shipped using bikeflights.
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Old 10-04-19, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
"Bicycles

Bicycles, non-motorized touring or single seat racing, are allowed as checked baggage on most flights, with the exception of certain Delta Connection® carriers.
  • Standard baggage allowance and fees based on cabin and travel region apply
  • Bicycles weighing over 50 lbs. will be charged the applicable excess weight fee
  • If the outside linear dimensions (length + width + height) exceed 115 linear inches (292 cm) or exceeds 100 lbs, the item will not be accepted
  • Items in excess of baggage allowance will be subject to additional or overweight baggage fees
  • A limited liability release form must be signed by the passenger in the case that the bike is not properly packed
  • If the bicycle is packaged in a hard shell case specifically designed for transporting bicycles, then a limited release form is not required
  • If the bicycle is packaged in a soft sided travel bag or anything other than a hard shell case, a limited release form will need to be signed
Delta is not responsible for damage noted at the time of check in or damage due to over packing the bag."

Note that you have to keep bike+box under 50 lbs. for there to be no additional charge above the normal checked bag fee. I could never to that with my touring bike so I have shipped using bikeflights.
Wow, I was considering bikeflights but it would have cost $150 each way just for the shipping, far more expensive than just renting.

This is great though! Any good bike box recommendations for, say....... around $150?
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I wouldn't bring the wheels.

To install, you have to have the right cassette. Adjust the rear derailleur. Perhaps adjust the brakes.

If the cassette and chain aren't evenly worn, you could have issues. And, now you're using an unknown chain on your cassette. (or are you swapping cassettes?)

Your rental includes the whole bike. Perhaps toss in a couple of spare tubes, and you're set.

Do the tires match your expected road conditions?
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Originally Posted by firebird854 View Post
Wow, I was considering bikeflights but it would have cost $150 each way just for the shipping, far more expensive than just renting.

This is great though! Any good bike box recommendations for, say....... around $150?
Craigslist?

@gugie found a bike box on Craigslist here in Eugene. He sent a note to me, and I went and picked it up. I don't remember, but about $100 or so. I shipped it across the country to another BF member, and it still came out less than buying new.



I think the box was then shipped back to Portland with a bike for a mini tour this spring, perhaps bouncing around the country a bit more.

I've occasionally seen cheaper boxes, but haven't paid a lot of attention to them.

Of course, that is a bike box. Wheel boxes may be less common, but probably are used by the Triathlon and Racing crowd.

An S&S box may work for both wheels and luggage, but they tend to be expensive (of course, also good for a coupled bike too).

An S&S Soft Case is a little less expensive, and might be affordable for use as a dual suitcase and wheels, and would provide reasonable protection if the tire is left mounted and partly inflated, and the bag is stuffed with clothes.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/S-S-Backpac...k/401842599283



Hmm, this is on E-Bay now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Try-All-3-s...l/143398883718



Shipping is pretty outrageous, but perhaps someone could pick it up locally.
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