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wow... I love road pedals

Old 07-02-05, 04:24 PM
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wow... I love road pedals

I went to the bike shop today and picked up the Time RXS pedals they had ordered for me... Also got the Specialized Comp Road shoes. I finally decided to upgrade from the cheapie performance SPD pedals I was using and WOW what a difference it made. Admittedly they're completely different and at first more difficult to get into, but I defintely feel more connected to the pedal and feel as though I'm getting more power to the pedal as well. My average speed from the bike shop to work was a bit higher than usual. I haven't had any issues getting out of the pedals at all, getting in seems to be the only problem. I think it's just because the cleat is shaped differently and is more or less in a different spot than with my SPD's. Trying to walk around in these suckers is quite amusing, though. Despite the "pontoons" on the cafe cleats, it's still no easy task to walk safely. Also, rolling dismounts are definitely not a good idea. I almost ended up planted firmly on my backside while trying to do one. Other than those small quibbles, I'm more than happy I switched.
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The SPD pedals that are really for mountain bikes? thatt you can clip in on both sides? Those are what I have now, I've been looking for an excuse to get some nice look keos though.....
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yep... that's exactly what I had and I cannot even begin to explain what a difference some super nice road pedals makes. Forget about walking off the bike or anything, but man does it feel like I'm actually connected to the bike now. Closer to the pedal axle, more secure mechanism, less sloppiness, better looking, better power transfer due to the above along with the stiffer shoes. $256 well spent at the bike shop! Also, I went with the RXS's over the Keos for what it's worth. I was seriously considering the Keos but the RXS's were similar in price (cheaper depending on where you source the Keos) and have adjustable float and Q-factor. Plus the Keos are carbon and I've seen a few reviews of people cracking the pedal badly when they inadvertently smacked it on a hard surface. That and a few people have mentioned the nose of the cleat being fragile. I read the favorable review of the RXE's posted here and decided to go with the RXS's.
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Did you adjust your saddle height to compensate for the lower stack height?

I'd hazard a guess that a large amount of your better feeling power transfer is coming from the stiffer shoes - amazing the difference a good stiff sole makes! I'm sure you'll feel far more confident with the Time pedals over the SPDs. The Specialied Comp road shoes are awesome value.
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I recently did the same thing, but with Shimano RA-80 shoes and LOOK pp206 pedals. The stiffer shoes and larger cleat/pedal interface may have raised my average speed, and that could also just be in my head. My biggest transition problem was clipping out, as the moving seems to be a bit longer then my old SPDs.

I have fallen in the new pedals already!(broke a cleat in two)

I have tried clipping in with the cleat covers on!

I did screw the start of a road race by trying to clip in on the wrong side!
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Actually, I didn't adjust saddle height at all...I actually feel MORE comfortable on the new pedals/shoes which may very well say that my saddle was a few mm lower than it should have been? Needless to say, I agree totally that the shoes are an insane value. I'd highly recommend them to anyone who doesn't want to lay out the cheese for a pair of Sidis or Carnacs. They're not carbon soled but they're about as stiff as you could reasonably expect. I do also agree that the biggest difference was most likely the stiffer shoe but I think the pedals themselves have had a small effect. Part of it is that I feel as though I can pull harder on the pedals without flying out of them. I like the very secure retention.
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I replaced my SPD's with Shimano SPD-SL's and WOW what a difference! The SL's are harder to clip out of but it's WAY easier to clip in. Not sure it makes a difference where the rubber meets the road, however.
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see, I have the opposite problem... getting out has been absolutely NO issue at all.. getting in has been frustrating to say the least. It's a completely different sort of motion to clip in. I'm getting used to it, but it's definitely a change.
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Originally Posted by Bontrager
I replaced my SPD's with Shimano SPD-SL's and WOW what a difference! The SL's are harder to clip out of but it's WAY easier to clip in. Not sure it makes a difference where the rubber meets the road, however.
*edit .. I love the SPD-SL pedals and the wider platform.. About clipping in, I find the opposite true.. You can adjust the tension on the pedals.. Mine is at the lowest setting..
I second stubbacas suggestion on the pro road comp shoes... Frikkin A....

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8mm stack height with those pedals. theoretically this gives certain advantages to pedaling. Yeah that and the fact that the platform is big probably helps to.

I've been wanting to try them......that and a bunch of other stuff.
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err... there's the Pro Carbon Road and the Comp road.. and the Comp Carbon Road. There is no Pro Comp. But yeah, the comp road is a great deal. Oddly, the Comp Carbon does NOT have the M-lock buckle; it just has 3 velcro straps. What a rip! For $50 more!
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Originally Posted by cryogenic
err... there's the Pro Carbon Road and the Comp road.. and the Comp Carbon Road. There is no Pro Comp. But yeah, the comp road is a great deal. Oddly, the Comp Carbon does NOT have the M-lock buckle; it just has 3 velcro straps. What a rip! For $50 more!
.. here is what I had in mind... I guess this is the pro carbon shoe.. I got it in an LBS sale for 20% off...

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Originally Posted by cryogenic
err... there's the Pro Carbon Road and the Comp road.. and the Comp Carbon Road. There is no Pro Comp. But yeah, the comp road is a great deal. Oddly, the Comp Carbon does NOT have the M-lock buckle; it just has 3 velcro straps. What a rip! For $50 more!
I noticed that at one of the LBSs I looked at in Fruita today. Seems strange that the Comp, Pro, and Pro Carbons have the buckle, but the Comp Carbon doesn't...

I need to pick up a new pair of road shoes soon and thought the Comp Carbon would fit the bill perfectly until I saw that!
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I've always thought SPD's were one of the hardest to get into because of that small cleat. W/look, for instance, the toe is hanging up and you just push forward with the cleat and it engages, then mash down. Same campy/shimano. Speedplay even easier, just start riding w/ball of foot over spindle, and 'click, click'... never used Time tho'.
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I have the comps with the carbon sole. I don't like the built-in arch thing and I wish they had a buckle. Other than that they're okay. I had some issues but it has been partially resolved by adjusting the cleat placement. I might try LeWedges and see if that solves it.



what do people notice going from a 3-strap design to a 2-strap/buckle design?

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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
what do people notice going from a 3-strap design to a 2-strap/buckle design?
The advantage to me is the ability to make adjustments to the straps while on the bike. On shorter rides this isn't really that big of a deal, but it can come in handy on longer rides - tighten them for a climb, loosen them a bit on the flats or if your feet start to swell up a bit.

The other thing I noticed was that the buckle strap is generally a lot wider than the velcro straps, so distributes the pressure over the top of your foot better and is generally more comfortable.

I wouldn't say they're the be-all and end-all when it comes to shoes, but it's strange the Specialized put them on lower and higher models, but leave them off the Carbon Comps...
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
what do people notice going from a 3-strap design to a 2-strap/buckle design?
I would prefer the strap honestly.. I have to rachet the m-lock all the way in and on the last mount hole to get the shoes tight... On of the locks got loose and the LBS had to loctite it
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Originally Posted by cryogenic
I went to the bike shop today and picked up the Time RXS pedals they had ordered for me...
A word of warning, try not to walk in them too much as the wear on the cleats is extreme compared to SPD's especially if the ground is uneven or gravel.
I have both SPD SL with Shimano R130S shoes on the race bike and Welgo SPD with Luck shoes on my trainer. I prefer the spd's for general training/latte' runs. My Welgos are single sided with Ti shafts (very light) and I have no trouble getting in or out and have never 'pulled out' of them. They are way better to walk in.
The SL's on the other hand are way stiffer. The shoes are v/light and rigid and the lever buckle allows me to cinch them up for the sprint but clipping in is more difficult particularly if you happen to step in any muddy stuff. I also need some booties now the winter is hear because the Shimanos are very well vented and my toes go numb.
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I've noticed that my specialized shoes are very well vented... not going to be much fun for the winter time, but when that time comes I'll just get a 2nd pair of shoes with less ventilation. As far as walking goes, I wasn't planning on doing much walking unless absolutely necessary (stopping for food or whatever).
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Originally Posted by skinnyone
.. here is what I had in mind... I guess this is the pro carbon shoe.. I got it in an LBS sale for 20% off...

I have the exact same pair. Those things rule. They were expensive but definitely one of my best cycling purchases. The difference was very noticable.

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