Am I mad?
#26
Should Be More Popular
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 40,206
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
Mentioned: 542 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19880 Post(s)
Liked 6,603 Times
in
3,137 Posts
#27
Senior Member
Thread Starter
#28
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 28,725
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0
Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4973 Post(s)
Liked 3,075 Times
in
2,041 Posts
I don't think the video camera does it justice but I've also added a beam cutoff hood so I don't blind oncoming traffic. maybe that influences how it appears on video? the man. advertises it as 900 lumen. I can see where I'm going & traffic approaching me, can see me. this is what I use rear-facing
#29
Newbie racer
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 3,375
Bikes: Propel, red is faster
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1566 Post(s)
Liked 1,537 Times
in
956 Posts
Lights, lights, and reflective stuff. And take a route that you deem fits your life's risk mitigation tolerance levels.
We have a guy here that commutes somewhere to work and home daily. He takes the road in daylight an I see him on our greenway in darkness. That has him avoid a bad area in dark.
Nothing wrong with dark. I just adjust my risk mitigation strategy according to the perils.
We have a guy here that commutes somewhere to work and home daily. He takes the road in daylight an I see him on our greenway in darkness. That has him avoid a bad area in dark.
Nothing wrong with dark. I just adjust my risk mitigation strategy according to the perils.
#30
Mother Nature's Son
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sussex County, Delaware
Posts: 2,726
Bikes: 2014 Orbea Avant MD30, 2004 Airborne Zeppelin TI, 2003 Lemond Poprad, 2001 Lemond Tourmalet, 2014? Soma Smoothie
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 728 Post(s)
Liked 1,085 Times
in
641 Posts
Quoting Pink Floyd: " I know I'm mad, I've always been mad aahhahahahahahaha!"
#31
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Southeast US
Posts: 937
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 318 Post(s)
Liked 149 Times
in
104 Posts
The car-commuter mindset is not conducive to safety, but that's true whether it's light out or not.
Last edited by rseeker; 01-08-20 at 05:51 PM.
#33
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,130
Bikes: 2 many
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1264 Post(s)
Liked 319 Times
in
165 Posts
Another benefit on rural roads with light traffic, not being in a car, the cyclists can hear a car coming from far away. There are places where I can hear them close to a mile away, at night.
#34
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,491
Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder
Mentioned: 119 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3981 Post(s)
Liked 2,868 Times
in
1,869 Posts
When I ride at night commuting home,I am more worried about hitting pedestrians/evening joggers than I am about getting hit by cars. Pedestrians don't have lights, often cross roads at odd angles, and are near invisible until they step into the relatively narrow field of light my bike lights create. I have had a number of near misses with joggers, whom I didn't see and who didn't see me despite my lights, suddenly crossing my path
Ben
#35
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 467
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 187 Post(s)
Liked 276 Times
in
161 Posts
I love riding at night. I get a sense of security. I feel I can see every and any vehicle approaching. I do a good job of being seen, 2 headlights, 2 rear blinkies (one on helmet, one seatpost) and ankle reflectors so that i can be seen from the side with the motion. I actually see many joggers from quite a distance with the little tabs on their shoes so I am sure these tri color bands are very visible, especially with the motion.
I actually feel safer at night than I do during the day. Less traffic, better visibility imo.
As far as peds stepping off a curb surprising me? I actually see them looking back when they see my lights coming. Pretty bright, maybe they think they are being stalked by a slow passing vehicle.
Peds surprising me, no!

I actually feel safer at night than I do during the day. Less traffic, better visibility imo.
As far as peds stepping off a curb surprising me? I actually see them looking back when they see my lights coming. Pretty bright, maybe they think they are being stalked by a slow passing vehicle.

Peds surprising me, no!


Likes For TheDudeIsHere:
#36
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 36,101
Mentioned: 205 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16624 Post(s)
Liked 11,697 Times
in
5,607 Posts
Yeah. Night riding can be great. Here in the big city Friday and Saturday nights in August are terrific. So many people are either "down the shore" on up in the Poconos that center city seems deserted. I can ride to dinner and a movie with much less traffic than normal.
#37
vespertine member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Land of Angora, Turkey
Posts: 2,476
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 687 Post(s)
Liked 220 Times
in
163 Posts
There's nothing wrong with riding in the dark. There are some routes that I avoid after dark, but this is mainly due to my own levels of skill and confidence. Anyone who lives in northern (or far southern) latitudes and wants to ride outdoors year round will probably, at some point, be riding in the dark.
Plenty of people initially think I'm nuts not only for riding at night, but for riding on actual roads with actual cars. These are generally people who do not ride at all, or only ride on rails-to-trails type setups. I show them my lighting setup, explain that it looks more frightening from the perspective of a car, and that usually sets them straight.
If you really want to freak out your well-meaning co-workers and family members, tell them about randonneuring. The Minnesota Randonneurs have one called the Golden Pancake 200 - it's a 200K that *starts* at 8PM and goes overnight.
Plenty of people initially think I'm nuts not only for riding at night, but for riding on actual roads with actual cars. These are generally people who do not ride at all, or only ride on rails-to-trails type setups. I show them my lighting setup, explain that it looks more frightening from the perspective of a car, and that usually sets them straight.
If you really want to freak out your well-meaning co-workers and family members, tell them about randonneuring. The Minnesota Randonneurs have one called the Golden Pancake 200 - it's a 200K that *starts* at 8PM and goes overnight.
#39
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: N. California
Posts: 158
Bikes: Trek Emonda SL6, Santa Cruz Tallboy 27.5+
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times
in
6 Posts
I like to add some reflective motion immediately recognizable as human.
A large safety yellow reflective band Velcro’s around my left ankle every road ride day or night.
A large safety yellow reflective band Velcro’s around my left ankle every road ride day or night.
#40
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,130
Bikes: 2 many
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1264 Post(s)
Liked 319 Times
in
165 Posts
It may not say, but, a lot of cyclists don't use any lights or reflector. Around here kids also wear black clothing on black bikes as well.
Without my good headlight I would have had a couple of head on crashes, on the near by, off road, unlighted bike path.
Without my good headlight I would have had a couple of head on crashes, on the near by, off road, unlighted bike path.
#41
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Hollister, CA (not the surf town)
Posts: 1,604
Bikes: 2019 Specialized Roubaix Comp Di2, 2009 Roubaix, early 90's Giant Iguana
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 592 Post(s)
Liked 1,178 Times
in
466 Posts
People who don't ride are always saying how dangerous it is to ride at night. Ask your friends how often they have run over cyclists at night. Ask them if they've ever even come close to hitting someone that wasn't riding without any lights.
Likes For Ogsarg:
#42
Veteran, Pacifist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 12,337
Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?
Mentioned: 276 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3415 Post(s)
Liked 3,402 Times
in
1,662 Posts
I always say, 'Consider the source'.
If your co-workers are not cyclists or have never cycled with good lighting at night, then they are not a good source to evaluate your actions.
Remember, most drunk drivers are out after dark.
+1 on the comments regarding familiar roads.
If your co-workers are not cyclists or have never cycled with good lighting at night, then they are not a good source to evaluate your actions.
Remember, most drunk drivers are out after dark.
+1 on the comments regarding familiar roads.
Likes For Wildwood:
#43
Senior Member
Thread Starter
I always say, 'Consider the source'.
If your co-workers are not cyclists or have never cycled with good lighting at night, then they are not a good source to evaluate your actions.
Remember, most drunk drivers are out after dark.
+1 on the comments regarding familiar roads.
If your co-workers are not cyclists or have never cycled with good lighting at night, then they are not a good source to evaluate your actions.
Remember, most drunk drivers are out after dark.
+1 on the comments regarding familiar roads.
#44
Full Member
It was my experience that around here with heavy commercial truck traffic that trucks actually give you more room at night than during the daylight. Especially when you have blinking lights front and rear. Blinkies especially improve your visibility in the twilight times. Since you are in such a bad position because of lmited visibility I always take special care to stay as far away from traffic as possible. This includes take the route less traveled
#45
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 18,130
Bikes: 2 many
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1264 Post(s)
Liked 319 Times
in
165 Posts
Some of the rural roads I ride on, will go by a bar or restaurant. I found out that I have to avoid the area around closing time. On Sunday night almost everyone is off the road. My theory is that they are home resting up for work on Monday.
#46
Veteran, Pacifist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 12,337
Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?
Mentioned: 276 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3415 Post(s)
Liked 3,402 Times
in
1,662 Posts
Did not see Catalonia before - many people getting off work at 7.. Dinner at 9 - 10 is what I remember, but it's been a while. And I was muchly in Mallorca where afternoon siesta was widely observed outside the tourist areas & businesses.
#47
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Dinner at 9 is the usual here.
#49
☢
Yesterday I posted a picture of me cycling in a pitch dark road at night on Instagram. And it caused quite a stir among some familiars and coworkers who told me I'm mad and I'm going to be run over.
I've been commuting at night for 3 years, and I always use 2 front and 2 rear lights. I mount one light on handlebars and another on the helmet. On the rear I have one light fixed and the other in blinking mode. I have enough light to descend at 60km/h without feeling unsafe. And I have always felt safer on the night (relative to cars), since it seems it's something drivers don't expect, so they pass way more cautiously than during the day.
I haven't found almost anyone else riding on the night, and the feedback to my Instagram post has worried me somewhat. Am I really mad? Does someone else think it's really that dangerous?
I've been commuting at night for 3 years, and I always use 2 front and 2 rear lights. I mount one light on handlebars and another on the helmet. On the rear I have one light fixed and the other in blinking mode. I have enough light to descend at 60km/h without feeling unsafe. And I have always felt safer on the night (relative to cars), since it seems it's something drivers don't expect, so they pass way more cautiously than during the day.
I haven't found almost anyone else riding on the night, and the feedback to my Instagram post has worried me somewhat. Am I really mad? Does someone else think it's really that dangerous?
When you ride at night its easy to let your guard down and that's when accidents happen. Even though you may have lights people can see you but don't realize you can't always see them. Some of my closes calls were pedestrians walking (or sitting) on the bike path at night -- when and where you least expect them.
Anyway, you only need one good headlight, but make sure you have reflective tape/clothing as well. Just make sure you're easily seen -- from all angles -- but not distracting.
#50
NYC
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,718
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1168 Post(s)
Liked 102 Times
in
59 Posts
A bunch of people with no, none, zero experience with something are telling someone who not only has experience with it, but has also thought carefully about it, and has improved their skills and equipment over time, and is very well aware of the risks they are managing? Yet you are asking which one is the nutter?
The bell curve is real. Very very real. Worse, a great many people punch way under their weight class by being willfully stupid. You were only born with what you were born with, but fail to actually use what little you have in the first place? Eff people. Especially eff willfully stupid people with big mouths.
The bell curve is real. Very very real. Worse, a great many people punch way under their weight class by being willfully stupid. You were only born with what you were born with, but fail to actually use what little you have in the first place? Eff people. Especially eff willfully stupid people with big mouths.