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Old 02-26-20, 02:57 AM
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Help picking out wheelset

I'm looking to replace my wheels on my road bike. I believe it has clearance for 28c width tires, but right now I'm using 25c tires. In the future, I'll be changing out my 25c tires for 28c ones, but my question is what is the internal rim width I'll need on my new wheels that will support both 28c and 25c?
Also a side question: Do you have any recommendations for an aluminum rim clincher with a rim depth of 30-50mm?
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Old 02-26-20, 06:08 AM
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Take a look at the Hunt Aero Wide wheelset.
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Old 02-26-20, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mootboot View Post
I'm looking to replace my wheels on my road bike. I believe it has clearance for 28c width tires, but right now I'm using 25c tires. In the future, I'll be changing out my 25c tires for 28c ones, but my question is what is the internal rim width I'll need on my new wheels that will support both 28c and 25c?
Also a side question: Do you have any recommendations for an aluminum rim clincher with a rim depth of 30-50mm?
Every modern clincher rim I can think of will handle a 28mm tire without a second thought. It just isnt a wide tire. Get something thats 17mm-21mm internally since that seems to be a sweetspot for where there are a lot of quality rims at reasonable prices.
Butted spokes are lighter and 'stronger' than plain gauge. Brass nips weigh insignificantly more weight, but wont freeze in place or strip out as easily as aluminum nips. All this in a well built wheel can give you a great mix of weight, reliability, and price.

All the above is generalizations based on personal experience and experience of others.

Aluminum rims that are 30-50mm deep are usually pretty heavy and for minimal benefit. I guess on the shallower side of that there could be some options, but why have a 50mm deep aluminum rim?
H plus Son does make a 42mm deep rum- the SL42. Its 600 grams and relatively narrow too.
https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/deep-v-622 Deep V is 30mm...and again, not light.

H plus Son Archetype is a really well regarded rim in terms of consistency and weight, but its only 25mm deep.

Here is a rundown of some aluminum rims with specs. Alloy Rim Roundup - Fairwheel Bikes Blog


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Old 02-26-20, 09:20 AM
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Kinlin XR31. 31 deep, 19 internal width. Tough, relatively inexpensive.

The Hunt Race Aero Wide ($449,) November FSW3 (discontinued?,) and ProWheelBuilder Signature Ventus (starting @ $350) are all Kinlin hoops.

There's actually quite a few alloy wheels out there around 30mm deep, but the only one I can recommend is the Kinlin, as it's the only one I've used.
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I recommend going to intheknowcycling.com for insightful reviews on many aspects of wheel design and products that are available. For me, it was a huge go-to resource.
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I have a set of Vision Team 30 wheels on my bike at the moment - 30mm deep aluminum with bladed straight pull spokes. They're listed at 1900g, and I think I can feel every single one of them when accelerating. Don't get me wrong, I'm honestly quite a bit faster on this bike than my previous bike with 1700g Ksyrium Equipes, but they just don't have the get-up-and-go from an intersection that I'd expect. I'm considering getting carbon wheels of the same depth (or even slightly deeper) for the snappier feeling acceleration. Any reason why you're only considering an aluminum rim?
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Originally Posted by aliasfox View Post
I have a set of Vision Team 30 wheels on my bike at the moment - 30mm deep aluminum with bladed straight pull spokes. They're listed at 1900g, and I think I can feel every single one of them when accelerating. Don't get me wrong, I'm honestly quite a bit faster on this bike than my previous bike with 1700g Ksyrium Equipes, but they just don't have the get-up-and-go from an intersection that I'd expect. I'm considering getting carbon wheels of the same depth (or even slightly deeper) for the snappier feeling acceleration. Any reason why you're only considering an aluminum rim?
I have my reasons. I live in the Seattle area, and it rains a lot here. I'm often riding in poor weather conditions. The mud and grit would destroy a carbon rim wheel very quickly. If my frame allowed for disc brakes, then I would get carbon wheels. So the choice for aluminum is for safety and longevity.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
Take a look at the Hunt Aero Wide wheelset.
Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Kinlin XR31. 31 deep, 19 internal width. Tough, relatively inexpensive.

The Hunt Race Aero Wide ($449,) November FSW3 (discontinued?,) and ProWheelBuilder Signature Ventus (starting @ $350) are all Kinlin hoops.

There's actually quite a few alloy wheels out there around 30mm deep, but the only one I can recommend is the Kinlin, as it's the only one I've used.
Sorry I didn't reply to you all. I must of forgot. I went with the Hunt Race Aero Wide. Thank you two and everyone else who replied.
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Sorry I didn't reply to you all. I must of forgot. I went with the Hunt Race Aero Wide. Thank you two and everyone else who replied.
Oh man.. that's great. I can cancel the rest of my planned therapy sessions. jk.. how are the wheels working out?
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Oh man.. that's great. I can cancel the rest of my planned therapy sessions. jk.. how are the wheels working out?
They're on pre-order. Should be arriving early next month. I'll update this thread with how I like 'em.
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Congrats on the Hunts!

For the record, I wanted to mention these that i recently bought, myself: Specifications

They're about a hundred bucks cheaper if you spec them with the non-aero spokes..

I took the plunge last month and have been delighted with them. They're very similar to the Hunts and probably even have some of the same components (like the asymetrical rim, etc.) The biggest difference, for me, was that shipping was free and they took about a week and a half to arrive from the day I ordered them.

To say nothing of supporting the man behind them, who is said to be a great guy to work with on warranty/etc. issues.
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Originally Posted by mootboot View Post
I have my reasons. I live in the Seattle area, and it rains a lot here. I'm often riding in poor weather conditions. The mud and grit would destroy a carbon rim wheel very quickly. If my frame allowed for disc brakes, then I would get carbon wheels. So the choice for aluminum is for safety and longevity.
Some of the Seattle/Portland rim brake people switch ou their Al wheels for CF when the weather starts turning. Seems to work for some folks pretty well.
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Congrats on the Hunts!

For the record, I wanted to mention these that i recently bought, myself: Specifications

They're about a hundred bucks cheaper if you spec them with the non-aero spokes..

I took the plunge last month and have been delighted with them. They're very similar to the Hunts and probably even have some of the same components (like the asymetrical rim, etc.) The biggest difference, for me, was that shipping was free and they took about a week and a half to arrive from the day I ordered them.

To say nothing of supporting the man behind them, who is said to be a great guy to work with on warranty/etc. issues.
I think all of these are based on the Kinlin xr31 rim, right? eg. here's another that should be very similar:
https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/pwb-...t-package.html
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Originally Posted by mootboot View Post
I have my reasons. I live in the Seattle area, and it rains a lot here. I'm often riding in poor weather conditions. The mud and grit would destroy a carbon rim wheel very quickly. If my frame allowed for disc brakes, then I would get carbon wheels. So the choice for aluminum is for safety and longevity.
Makes perfect sense, didn't know if you were on rim or disc brakes. I'd pick alloy as well if I were upgrading my older rim brake bike. I see you've picked up a set of Hunts, would definitely be interested in hearing your experiences with them (especially hubs) after a few hundred miles - their prices are tempting for both my disc and rim brake bikes.
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I think all of these are based on the Kinlin xr31 rim, right?
Yup. Seems to be a great rim for my needs. Light, stiff, slightly deep, inexpensive, wide, tubeless ready... What a time to be alive.
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Yup. Seems to be a great rim for my needs. Light, stiff, slightly deep, inexpensive, wide, tubeless ready.
502g, and 19mm internal width is considered wide and light?
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502g, and 19mm internal width is considered wide and light?
It's all relative.
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502g, and 19mm internal width is considered wide and light?
In my opinion, in my post, yes.

For $400 and change I went from narrow ass Aksiums to the Neugents. They're 1460g and 24+ wide (outside.) With 25mm Schwalbe One tires, the tires measure 28mm inflated and the ride is night and day. I'm quite satisfied with them. Oh, and my big ass can STOP with the aluminum brake tracks on the huge/fast descents I regularly ride.

But please, go on and explain to me how some $2000 80-deep carbon rims with dimples you prefer are wider and lighter and so on and so forth if it makes you feel better. I won't argue.
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I have a set of wheels built with 30mm Boyd Altamonts that are rock solid. They make a 25mm deep "lite" version that weighs 435 grams.
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502g, and 19mm internal width is considered wide and light?
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In my opinion, in my post, yes.
Inexpensive, and stiff, but not wide or light.
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Originally Posted by goenrdoug View Post
In my opinion, in my post, yes.

For $400 and change I went from narrow ass Aksiums to the Neugents. They're 1460g and 24+ wide (outside.) With 25mm Schwalbe One tires, the tires measure 28mm inflated and the ride is night and day. I'm quite satisfied with them. Oh, and my big ass can STOP with the aluminum brake tracks on the huge/fast descents I regularly ride.

But please, go on and explain to me how some $2000 80-deep carbon rims with dimples you prefer are wider and lighter and so on and so forth if it makes you feel better. I won't argue.
Did the exact same thing here. There are experienced folks on this site who apprently feel Neugent is complete garbage. Has not been my experience, but I am not a wheel guru. For the modest dollars, I have been much happier riding these than I was with my Aksiums.
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