What strength of lights are needed for night rides?
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What strength of lights are needed for night rides?
It is most convenient for me to ride after it gets dark, thanks to my job and then home improvement projects after work. I don't have any lights at the moment but am looking to pick some up. How strong of lights should I be looking for? I'm assuming jsut a blinking red light for the back, but for the front, I dont' know where to start. I've seen some for around $20 to recharchable systems that run over $150.
What kind of lighting systems do you guys use?
Do you have the handlebar mounted lights, helmet mounted lights, or both?
What kind of lighting systems do you guys use?
Do you have the handlebar mounted lights, helmet mounted lights, or both?
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I use the NiteRider Storm and Blowtorch. I use both a helmet and handle bar light for mountain biking. I usually only use the handle bar for the road bike. I know they're expensive. They're awesome for mountain bike riding/racing at night. They cast a true white light by way of High Intensity Discharge (HID)
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From my understanding, the light brightness isn't for you..it's for the cars. You can probably get home alright with the street lights to guide you, but the flashers are for the cars to make sure that THEY can see you.
That said, you should be fine with a red flasher in the back and a white light in the front
I think the price is just depending on how you want to use it. Rechargeable would probably be better if you're going to be riding very often in the night, otherwise I'm sure you could go with regular AA or AAA battery versions.
consider sheldon's advice too: https://sheldonbrown.com/commute/index.html
That said, you should be fine with a red flasher in the back and a white light in the front
I think the price is just depending on how you want to use it. Rechargeable would probably be better if you're going to be riding very often in the night, otherwise I'm sure you could go with regular AA or AAA battery versions.
consider sheldon's advice too: https://sheldonbrown.com/commute/index.html
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The niterider lights look sweet but are unfortunately out of my price range. I think i will start with the rear light and keep looking for the front. Thanks for your help!
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Originally Posted by DrugCoder
What kind of lighting systems do you guys use?
Do you have the handlebar mounted lights, helmet mounted lights, or both?
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For commuting I run a Cygolight Rover NiMH. I got it on sale for about $55 at performance. It lights the bike path enough to see where I'm going as long as I don't go over 18-20 MPH. I'm looking at an HID light for next winter.
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Originally Posted by DrugCoder
It is most convenient for me to ride after it gets dark, thanks to my job and then home improvement projects after work. I don't have any lights at the moment but am looking to pick some up. How strong of lights should I be looking for? I'm assuming jsut a blinking red light for the back, but for the front, I dont' know where to start. I've seen some for around $20 to recharchable systems that run over $150.
What kind of lighting systems do you guys use?
Do you have the handlebar mounted lights, helmet mounted lights, or both?
What kind of lighting systems do you guys use?
Do you have the handlebar mounted lights, helmet mounted lights, or both?
You have to start with what kind of riding you do. What kind of tires you have and what the terrain is like. Then the power you need. The time you will ride at night greatly changes the price of the light. Longer run times with good lights add a lot to the price. If you need to see the ground and not hit small things.
Decent "see the ground" entry level lights can be had for $80 on sale at performance or Nashbar. (Around $100 full retail)
$150 is enough if you don't need a very long run time. Maybe 2 hours or so.
High end "see the ground" lights are $900 Mid level are $250 to $400
If you have big heavy thick tires ( like a mountain bike knobby) and can run over small things you can get by with a white led "be seen by cars" light if you are on well lit roads. $20 to $40 is enough. I don't recommend this though. If you have a road bike with high performance tires this is really not good enough.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
If you have big heavy thick tires ( like a mountain bike knobby) and can run over small things you can get by with a white led "be seen by cars" light if you are on well lit roads. $20 to $40 is enough. I don't recommend this though. If you have a road bike with high performance tires this is really not good enough.
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Originally Posted by DrugCoder
The niterider lights look sweet but are unfortunately out of my price range. I think i will start with the rear light and keep looking for the front. Thanks for your help!
I ride quite a bit at night and felt unsafe using the cateye halogen light (cl-500) at road bike speeds. I moved up to a 15 watt Marwi Nightpro Torch with NiMH battery and feel much better with my environment. A light enable you to be seen as others have stated, but it also allows you to see, which is of equal importance. I would ride with no less than a 10 watt light at night. The different batteries will give you longer burn time, faster charge, etc. Buy the most light you can afford, it will pay off in the long run.
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Originally Posted by jsharr
One wreck from an unseen pothole, stick in road, etc will cost you the $100 bucks you save buying a cheap light.
I ride quite a bit at night and felt unsafe using the cateye halogen light (cl-500) at road bike speeds. I moved up to a 15 watt Marwi Nightpro Torch with NiMH battery and feel much better with my environment. A light enable you to be seen as others have stated, but it also allows you to see, which is of equal importance. I would ride with no less than a 10 watt light at night. The different batteries will give you longer burn time, faster charge, etc. Buy the most light you can afford, it will pay off in the long run.
I ride quite a bit at night and felt unsafe using the cateye halogen light (cl-500) at road bike speeds. I moved up to a 15 watt Marwi Nightpro Torch with NiMH battery and feel much better with my environment. A light enable you to be seen as others have stated, but it also allows you to see, which is of equal importance. I would ride with no less than a 10 watt light at night. The different batteries will give you longer burn time, faster charge, etc. Buy the most light you can afford, it will pay off in the long run.
I use my light for both Road and Mountain trails when the sun goes down early.
The difference between a pothole and a shadow can sometimes be difficult to distinguish. Very dangerous at speed.
As others have indicated, better lights also make me more visable to automobiles.
Save up and buy a good one. Your life and well being is worth it.
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Here is where I bought my light, they offer free shipping on orders over $75.00 and had great customer service.
https://www.outdoorsportz.com/BGLTOOOO1010.html
https://www.outdoorsportz.com/BGLTOOOO1010.html
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Minimum of 10 watts for the front, preferably 20 watts. Red blinkie in rear.
Less than 10 W and you can't see worth a darn. Route you ride in daytime looks awfully different at at night, especially if there are no streetlights!
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
Less than 10 W and you can't see worth a darn. Route you ride in daytime looks awfully different at at night, especially if there are no streetlights!
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
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Originally Posted by zonatandem
Less than 10 W and you can't see worth a darn.
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Originally Posted by zonatandem
Less than 10 W and you can't see worth a darn.
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Originally Posted by mirona
You just bummed me out with all those big numbers! I'm also looking into lights, mostly for when I get caught out past sundown. I have a red blinkie on the back and a weak LED in the front that only works sometimes. The most I ride at night is usually 15 miles and I'm on 700x23's.
Sorry about the sticker shock, but you should understand now before you spend too much on lights that will not do what you want. You will end up doing what many do,(me included) and spend money on a few lights that are not good enough. Don't waste time and money, get right up to 10 or 15 watts.
As you read the posts, all the high mileage night riders will say about the same thing. 10 watts halogen is just good enough 15 watts is good. If you do only 15 miles you don't need much runtime (unless you get hooked on night riding, it's very easy). With the 700x23's you need to see holes in the pavement and small pieces of glass. Buy a rechargeable halogen somewhere in the 10 to 15 watt range and read the run time carefully. If you ride in the freezing cold, runtime capacity is reduced a lot. Start looking at 10 to 15 watt lights that go two hours. Cygolights give a lot for the money. Performance and Nashbar always have some lights on sale around that rating, some under $100. The rechargeable lights save a lot of money over the course of a year if you do much night riding.
If you hope to ride fast go for the 15 watts. You won't regret it after you try it.
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You need a brioght enough light so that the person in front of you is blinded and ended us crashing taking you with them...
Actually it really depends on what you are doing. For night training I use nothing short of my blowtorch HID kit...
Actually it really depends on what you are doing. For night training I use nothing short of my blowtorch HID kit...
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Originally Posted by bkrownd
I'm doing pretty darn peachy with around one Watt. Lighting needs are highly individual. I'd say about 3 Watts would be a perfect compromise between lightoutput and battery weight & lifetime for me.
Go to the link above and look at the beam patterns of different lights. The $50.00 light is basically worthless on a dark trail. One simply cannot compare the light output of a one watt light with a 15 watt light. You may well be able to ride with a 1 watt light, but I think you are the exception. I ride three nights a week on average, at around 17 mph on a mix of lit streets, unlit streets and bike trails. I used to use a Cateye Halogen, and at road bike speeds found it to be inadequate. Never wrecked but had some close calls and some pinch flats from hitting holes in road. I now ride with a Marwi NightPro Torch and am satisfied that I can see well and be seen. One wreck that takes out a wheel or brifter, or worse, causes serious injury is not worth the difference in price between an inexpensive light and a good light. The OP needs to consider how much night riding he/she will be doing, at what speeds, on what bike and in what sort of environment and then make a decision. You yourself say you really need a light 3 times more powerful than what you are using in the last sentence of your post.
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Originally Posted by jsharr
You yourself say you really need a light 3 times more powerful than what you are using in the last sentence of your post.
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I have this and love it... Great sale price right now too.
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Originally Posted by Cerberusgl
For commuting I run a Cygolight Rover NiMH. I got it on sale for about $55 at performance. It lights the bike path enough to see where I'm going as long as I don't go over 18-20 MPH. I'm looking at an HID light for next winter.