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Old 03-23-20, 11:44 AM
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Killing cyclists won't make things any better.
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Listen, agitator. They have been driving like jerks LONG before the pandemic. For example, I have lost count of how many drive the wrong on a one way street right by my house because they don't feel like going two blocks out of their way. Get it, or should I type more slowly next time?
Maybe a good compromise we can agree on for the duration of this national calamity is to shoot the bird at the offending Uber, Lyft, or Amazon driver and yell out "Thank you for you service."
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Or maybe ban the habitual trolls.
You really should write your congressman.
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Can we please get back on topic?

The serious replies, even those with some light humor, are appreciated, yet surprising to me. I fully expected to hear that Amazon Prime van complaints would be fairly universal. I'm assuming that there isn't just one Amazon Prime guy driving around a 30 mile radius of my house. So far, I think there seems to be a few of you that agree with me, but most don't see a significant amount of inappropriate Amazon Prime van driving. I'll try to keep an unbias open mind about those Amazon Prime vans for the next couple of weeks and see. If I still think they are more aggressive with their driving, I will make a call or email to Amazon Prime to express my concerns and request an in-service about driving near cyclists.
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Amazon’s routing algorithm just isn’t as good as UPS or FedEx and sends drivers on too many inefficient routes with too many left hand turns. This makes the drivers rush to meet package quotes. I believe the accident rate with those vans is much higher than other package delivery services. Although anecdotal, I live near an auto body shop and often see Amazon vans there. If you’re on a bike be aware of any nearby Amazon vans and any sudden turns they can make.
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Amazon’s routing algorithm just isn’t as good as UPS or FedEx and sends drivers on too many inefficient routes with too many left hand turns.
Should hire more professional race car drivers.
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Old 03-23-20, 06:27 PM
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Can we please get back on topic?
It’s not that good a topic. Let’s get off it.

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Originally Posted by Theypeedonmyrug View Post
It’s not that good a topic. Let’s get off it.
Traditionally on this forum when the OP asks that we get back on topic we usually oblige. Those who aren’t interested are free to leave and find another thread to their liking.
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
Traditionally on this forum when the OP asks that we get back on topic we usually oblige. Those who aren’t interested are free to leave and find another thread to their liking.
Well, okay Billy, but I don’t see how post #32 differs much from post #16.
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Well, okay Billy, but I don’t see how post #32 differs much from post #16.
#thatsashame
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#thatsashame
What does sashimi have to do with it?
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbob View Post
I fully expected to hear that Amazon Prime van complaints would be fairly universal.
Nope. No complaints from me.

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If I still think they are more aggressive with their driving, I will make a call or email to Amazon Prime to express my concerns and request an in-service about driving near cyclists.
It seems like most cyclist have their own target of confirmation bias - they can shrug off dozens of trespasses, except when one reinforces a preconceived belief. For some people, it's Audis that are always being dicks, because they're arrogant and they think they're better than you. For others, it's soccer moms in SUVs that are distracted by their snot-nosed brood. For you, it might just be Amazon Prime Delivery Vans because they're more concerned about their delivery stats than your life.

By all means, get a camera, document the offenses and report them, but I have a feeling that they're no worse than your average ****ty driver, it's just that you're more keyed in to them.
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They have their own vans? I really do live in the middle of nowhere, in the dark ages. Just how I like it. Carry on.
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Old 03-23-20, 11:00 PM
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Here is a typical Amazon van.

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Some companies put drivers under pressure to get a lot done quick. Some contractors get paid a rate per delivery which gives them an incentive to get it done quick. Being under pressure to rush all the time, does result in a slight reduction in safety. Some companies have a greater focus on safety. It may even vary from place to place with the same company.
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I think the guys driving these vans have it about as good as the ponies in the Pony Express. I saw something a few days ago that they were each being given one Clorox wipe each day to sanitize their vans.
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I feel pretty sorry for most delivery drivers--most of them do it b/c they simply have to. I had a package from Jenson's delivered today and I felt pretty guilty taking it from the driver--wished I had some tip money in my pocket--but I didn't have it so couldn't do it. In the eighties I would occasionally play hooky from work and it was usually very light traffic riding in the hills around silicon valley, but try to do that now and it feels like 50% of the traffic there is are delivery trucks. This seems really out of balance. I've gone at least to using Amazon locker so drivers don't need to bring stuff to my doorstep. I can't say that I've ever had any real problems with delivery trucks--more worried about distracted soccer moms, speeding teenagers, or cars with tinted windows where I can't make out if anyone in it sees me.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Nope. No complaints from me.



It seems like most cyclist have their own target of confirmation bias - they can shrug off dozens of trespasses, except when one reinforces a preconceived belief. For some people, it's Audis that are always being dicks, because they're arrogant and they think they're better than you. For others, it's soccer moms in SUVs that are distracted by their snot-nosed brood. For you, it might just be Amazon Prime Delivery Vans because they're more concerned about their delivery stats than your life.

By all means, get a camera, document the offenses and report them, but I have a feeling that they're no worse than your average ****ty driver, it's just that you're more keyed in to them.
I didn’t express this, but this is what I was thinking when I started this thread. I was wondering if I became fixated on Amazon Prime vans. Perhaps the first one that passed me, did so closely, and now I focus in on them. The responses to this thread have mostly shown me that I may be biased in this regard.
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I just noticed the OP is in Florida. Florida is ranked the most dangerous for pedestrians. It appears to be equally dangerous for cyclists, although statistics aren't easily deciphered.

Even my acquaintances in Florida who don't ride bikes talk about how dangerous it is for anyone who isn't in a motor vehicle. That mostly seems to be the coastal urban areas. No idea about the rest of the state.

If I lived in Florida... wait, scratch that. I did and couldn't wait to get out. Most of the state has always seemed crazy. And I'm a Texan. We know a thing or three about crazy.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Nope. No complaints from me.



It seems like most cyclist have their own target of confirmation bias - they can shrug off dozens of trespasses, except when one reinforces a preconceived belief. For some people, it's Audis that are always being dicks, because they're arrogant and they think they're better than you. For others, it's soccer moms in SUVs that are distracted by their snot-nosed brood. For you, it might just be Amazon Prime Delivery Vans because they're more concerned about their delivery stats than your life.

By all means, get a camera, document the offenses and report them, but I have a feeling that they're no worse than your average ****ty driver, it's just that you're more keyed in to them.
This is an impressively cogent observation, and I think it fully explains why this thread exists in the first place.

But I just want to add a word in defense of my neighbors here in Connecticut who drive Audi’s, BMWs, Mercedes’ and the like. In my experience, they are among the most considerate of drivers towards us road bikers. I imagine it’s because, if for no other reason, they are the ones most fearful of denting or scratching their cars. God bless ‘em.
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They have their own vans? I really do live in the middle of nowhere, in the dark ages. Just how I like it. Carry on.
Yup.. We're in the same boat. Where I live, the Prime delivery guys drive their own personal cars and get compensated for the usage.

Gotta love small cities!
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Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster View Post
They have their own vans? I really do live in the middle of nowhere, in the dark ages. Just how I like it. Carry on.
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Yup.. We're in the same boat. Where I live, the Prime delivery guys drive their own personal cars and get compensated for the usage.

Gotta love small cities!


The distribution of Amazon vans pretty much coincides with the distribution of Coronavirus cases. Cut them some slack.
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The distribution of Amazon vans pretty much coincides with the distribution of Coronavirus cases. Cut them some slack.
Of course lol these areas all have a high density of population.
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Here is a typical Amazon van.

I see that the fire truck has had enough of that smug smile
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I see that the fire truck has had enough of that smug smile
Nah - they're there to turn that frown upside down.
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