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Addiction LXXVIII

Old 05-06-20, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Steels for what?
Whatever you use steel for.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Why does it mean that it's not a favored variety?
Carbon is an amazing element because it forms an incredible variety of bonds to an incredible variety of other elements. Even within knife steel, for example, there are hundreds of varieties of alloys with different compositions and heat treatment. In bike tubing, Reynolds has series from... probably very low through 531, 853, and 953. Columbus has Spirit, XCr, and others I can't remember off the top of my head. Then there's Tange, True Temper used to before they went to focus on golf shafts, and on and on. Most of the good framebuilders state what tubing they use. For the ones they don't, why not? I can't imagine it's because they're shy about using high-quality tubing.
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Nevermind. Google says it’s on for next year.
The group that organized it left due to a dispute with the paper over the coverage of a racial incident then announced they would put on a competing ride. It was originally scheduled for the same week as RAGBRAI, but the date was later moved. Both rides were going to happen this year, but I think the virus mixed that.
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Old 05-06-20, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Rank your favourite steels.

Mine:

1) Stainless
2) ???
1) Hitachi Super Blue
2) Hitachi Blue #2
3) Kobelco R-2
4) Sandvik 13C27
5) Hitachi White #1
6) Hitachi ZDP-189

X) Takefu VG-10
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Old 05-06-20, 06:27 PM
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Ritchey has had Logic Tubing for a Looong time, which is kinda like not having the tubing identified. Originally I think it was made by Tange. Probably Tange MTB with shorter butts, or something like that.
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Old 05-06-20, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Ritchey has had Logic Tubing for a Looong time, which is kinda like not having the tubing identified. Originally I think it was made by Tange. Probably Tange MTB with shorter butts, or something like that.
The difference there is, there is a long track record of people speaking very highly of his bikes. And unfortunately, his paint jobs are usually total disqualifiers, like the Aspero's.

Now 3T will sell the Exploro in ready-to-paint, which would be an option if I wanted to go carbon on this hypothetical for next year. And it's more Cervelo than the Aspero.
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Old 05-06-20, 06:37 PM
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Woah. A-Main Hobbies also owns Dan's Comp??? I just noticed I got the same email from Dan's Comp and Nashbar. But NOT Performance. Hmmm.
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Old 05-06-20, 06:41 PM
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BITD my Bianchi Grizzly had "Bianchi Superset"

That one bugged me more than Ritchey Logic.

Hard to imagine I spent $1300 in 1993-ish dollars on a full rigid MTB.
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Old 05-06-20, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Steels for what?

If tubing for bicycles, it's all about the butts, and sometimes shaping and rifling.
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Originally Posted by kissTheApex
Isn’t that the same seller/manufacturer of the variety that sells Superteam wheels on Amazon?

Sounds right.
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Originally Posted by kissTheApex
Isn’t that the same seller/manufacturer of the variety that sells Superteam wheels on Amazon?
They do super team and /or your design decals or no decals on eBay
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
1) Hitachi Super Blue
2) Hitachi Blue #2
3) Kobelco R-2
4) Sandvik 13C27
5) Hitachi White #1
6) Hitachi ZDP-189

X) Takefu VG-10
I have a lot to learn about steel.

And to think, had I remained in Sharpsburg, PA, I might have been a Steelers fan. DougRNS
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Is there a way to go to an eBay vendor's page? I tried general search and it's not working.
l look for Super Team adds under carbon wheels . Then look through them till I find bike king as the seller. Then you can go to their store.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I have a lot to learn about steel.

And to think, had I remained in Sharpsburg, PA, I might have been a Steelers fan. DougRNS
Me too. I had no idea Sandvik dealt in steel. I see Sandvik and think Ti.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Rank your favourite steels.

Mine:

1) Stainless
2) ???
Columbus SL for the win. I like the Tanges too. Only have experience with Tange 1 and Tange Prestige.
And I will have a year to get in shape for RAGBRAI 2021. I do expect to be back in the saddle late Summer.
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I tried running tonight for the first time in a long time.


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Cleaned up the brakes, sanded the pads with some 220 then cleaned them some more. I managed to get them aligned so there's no rubbing! Happy days! Since its apart I decided to break in the slow cooker and meth up some chain lube. Wax, paraffin oil and Teflon in this batch. No carrier. Chain was a little dirty but was still quiet, and functioned properly. More buildup on the derailleur than I liked though. That's from the squirt bottle application.

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I have a lot to learn about steel.

And to think, had I remained in Sharpsburg, PA, I might have been a Steelers fan. DougRNS
When I was just marathoning and work was easy and there wasn't a global pandemic, I did a deep dive on knife steels. Also, Wikipedia has a great series of articles that will give you the history of steel production and quality through history.

Spoiler alert: in war, the side that can make more steel usually wins.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Me too. I had no idea Sandvik dealt in steel. I see Sandvik and think Ti.
I believe that steel was developed by (vomit) Gillette, for razors. It's not commonly used for knives, but is used for certain moderately-high-end applications like nicer steak knives and paring knives, for which R2 or similar would be overkill. Like these:

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Woah. A-Main Hobbies also owns Dan's Comp??? I just noticed I got the same email from Dan's Comp and Nashbar. But NOT Performance. Hmmm.
OK I got my "Message from the CEO" email from Performance.

Wonder if Dan's Comp will still be my go-to for spokes after this change.
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Chain is cooling. I don't know how much the Teflon is going to add to the mix. It doesn't stay suspended very long, so I wonder how much will penetrate into the plates and rollers. But I guess it can't hurt things either.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Carbon is an amazing element because it forms an incredible variety of bonds to an incredible variety of other elements. Even within knife steel, for example, there are hundreds of varieties of alloys with different compositions and heat treatment. In bike tubing, Reynolds has series from... probably very low through 531, 853, and 953. Columbus has Spirit, XCr, and others I can't remember off the top of my head. Then there's Tange, True Temper used to before they went to focus on golf shafts, and on and on. Most of the good framebuilders state what tubing they use. For the ones they don't, why not? I can't imagine it's because they're shy about using high-quality tubing.
Looks like they are sourcing everything from Paragon Design Works. Anyway, I'm not digging their frame design. The rear brake mount situation and the sliding dropouts are harshing the mellow.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
1) Hitachi Super Blue
2) Hitachi Blue #2
3) Kobelco R-2
4) Sandvik 13C27
5) Hitachi White #1
6) Hitachi ZDP-189

X) Takefu VG-10
Gotta try you some SKD
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