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Road Noobs: Wish you spent more on your first?

Old 07-07-05, 11:07 PM
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Road Noobs: Wish you spent more on your first?

The tough thing about buying your first road bike is you really don't know how to judge the features/components/geometry you might value as you gain confidence and knowledge as a roadie.

And what does good fit feel like? They aren't exactly like sitting in a la-z-boy. If you've never ridden a roadie, and aren't as limber as the 140 lb TDF riders, it's more a matter of selecting one that isn't excruciatingly uncomfortable. Until you get used to the position, anyway.

So how did you do on your first roadie purchase? I went with the Trek 2100c in 52 cm this past March, but have upgraded everything but the seat post, cranks, bb and head set - to the tune of around $1100 or so. I like my bike a great deal and picture myself being happy with it until I can somehow manage to shrink this go##amned inner tube around my waist.

I'd like to hear from others that purchased their first roadie in the past year. Are you still happy with the bike? Have you upgraded components? What would you purchase if you were in the same position today?
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Old 07-07-05, 11:13 PM
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My first roadie was built up from a frameset I bought on ebay... I honestly wish I would have gotten a slightly smaller frame but my current one isn't unbearable by any means. I'm pretty content with the component group as it is now and I still really enjoy riding it a LOT. I've got about $2500 in it so far after upgrading the bars, stem and pedals. I've got a real yearning to try out a nice custom steel frame. Next year, I'm hoping to do just that.
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Old 07-07-05, 11:15 PM
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First roadie... Trek 2100... cheapest bike in my size 63 cm. Might as well have bought the frameset, nothing is stock on the bike. Of course when I bought the bike I just wanted a roadie and did not know I was going to race, etc. Now the bike is too small, but that is just me. I know lots of people who are very happy with their first road bike purchace.

It is all part of the learning game. Everyone wants something better, lusts over other bikes, etc etc. It is just part of the game of road cycling. It is those that learn that they do not need every high end gadget for their bike that come out ahead.
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Old 07-07-05, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by my58vw
First roadie... Trek 2100... cheapest bike in my size 63 cm. Might as well have bought the frameset, nothing is stock on the bike. Of course when I bought the bike I just wanted a roadie and did not know I was going to race, etc. Now the bike is too small, but that is just me. I know lots of people who are very happy with their first road bike purchace.

It is all part of the learning game. Everyone wants something better, lusts over other bikes, etc etc. It is just part of the game of road cycling. It is those that learn that they do not need every high end gadget for their bike that come out ahead.
so you're not coming out ahead just yet, eh?
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Old 07-07-05, 11:35 PM
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I got a motobecane off of ebay. I'm glad I got it cause it's an excellent bike to learn on, and it takes the abuse.

Now I'm ready for a super nice bike. I just got a good job a week ago and I'm single so I think I can afford it.
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Old 07-07-05, 11:35 PM
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I got my 2003 Bianchi Veloce.. swapped the saddle, stem and handle bars.. and i still love my bike.. i didn't think I needed to spend more than $1300 on a road bike at the time.. but now I can totally appreciate the higher end frames, components, wheelsets.. etc. For my next bike I'm thinking about going with a titanium frameset and atleast Campy Chorus gruppo.. and definitely go with a nice, light custom wheelset.
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Old 07-07-05, 11:36 PM
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Exactly...

I am sure that I could run with just 105, 9 speed etc etc (well if they made 180 mm cranks), but I just love the look, weight and feel or DA stuff...

But I have not yet made the jump to CF frames, stems, bars, etc. AL is just fine!
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Originally Posted by nomo4me
I'd like to hear from others that purchased their first roadie in the past year.
Are you still happy with the bike?
Have you upgraded components?
What would you purchase if you were in the same position today?
a) Yes
b) No
c) Probably the same thing. I can't think of anything I'd really want to change. (A drivetrain enclosure would be nice, but nobody's offering them.)
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I'm very happy with my OCR C2. I knew that I wanted CF for a smoother ride. The components are probably better than I need, but I always like to spend more than I need to so I don't have to think about upgrading.
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Old 07-08-05, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RoboCheme
I'm very happy with my OCR C2. I knew that I wanted CF for a smoother ride. The components are probably better than I need, but I always like to spend more than I need to so I don't have to think about upgrading.
Hey, if it gets the saddle between your legs and your butt out on the road, then it was a worthwhile investment by all means.
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My first roadie ever was a steel Peugeot that somehow came into our family during high school. I road the hell out of it, trying to emulate Greg Lemond and Miguel Indurain. Loved it. Still do.



My first bought roadie was a used purple Cannondale I bought in '90-91 in college, which I decked out with black trimmings and everyone called it the Bat Bike. Loved it. Still do.



Edit: Whoops, I guess this no longer makes me a Noob.
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Old 07-08-05, 04:53 AM
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Still loving my 2004 LeMond Tourmalet, my only upgrade being clipless pedals and a cyclocomputer. I have absolutely no regrets. Actually I am looking for a new lesser model roadie, most likely a LeMond Etape, which was what I was initially looking to buy. I would want to use that as my commuter/rain bike. I have no delusions of grandeur and am not a gadget geek when it comes to cycling. My bike is more bike, much more bike than I have ever owned before....Nope, no regrets here
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My first roadie was going to be an R2.5... oooo... Chorus...
But Canadian taxes are steep... hahaha..
So I had to get something else; but equally enjoyable... and yes, I really like it stock and would've bought it again in the same position...
I find it interesting that people go buy a $700 machine, and in less than a year have put more into upgrades than the original price...
If I had an extra $1000 CAD lying around, I'd have the R2.5
I like Cervelo a lot... but like a lot of situations, things just don't work out...

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Old 07-08-05, 07:16 AM
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I just bought a Bianchi Brava about 2 months ago for my first road bike. I have put about 700 miles on it and just recently have added Look Keo pedals, and a new saddle. I don't think there is anything else I would change on the bike. I don't feel comfortable buying a 2000 dollar bike unless I know how to tear one apart and put it back together. The Brava has been a good learning bike.
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My Trek 560 (1987, 531 tubing, 105 group) that I got recently might be my first roadie bought to use as such. I got a Voyageur tourer earlier this year that I rode for pleasure, but also had fenders and rack installed for commuting. I busted the frame, and after having it replaced have relegated it to wet-weather road biking. The rack I put on my hybrid, along with fenders for commuting duty.

I'm new to biking hard and long on a more performance-oriented machine, but not to biking - I know what I'm doing and the Trek, while a bit heavy at 23lbs. for most folks here, is perfect for a 210lb. guy like me.
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My first "real" road bike was a Schwinn World Sport (ok ... so I'm not posting in the "who's in HS" or "who's in college threads ) back in the late 80's. One year later, I bought a Schwinn LeTour road bike. Anyone remember these bikes? Great starter bikes for their day.

A year later, I bought my first high quality road bike -- Trek 2100 carbon/composite road bike. It was a very nice bike. It had 105, but 105 back then did NOT have STI. So, one year later, I bought the 1992 Trek 5200 with full Ultegra/STI ... and still ride that bike today. I figured (and still do for the most part) that a $2k bike with nice components is more than enough for someone who just likes to RIDE.

Now, I also have my first Mtn Bike ... Trek 8000 Aluminum which is fine for what I do. My first tandem is on order and it is a 05' Cannondale road tandem. I doubt I'll be needing to upgrade this bike for a while also!
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I was pretty cognizant of this issue when I bought my '04 Cannondale R600 roughly a year ago. Then, I knew very little about components, materials, geometry, etc. But even though I've learned a great deal in the past year due to riding a lot and lurking in these forums, I'm still not sure what would comprise my "ideal" ride.

I have upgraded/swapped the saddle, bars, and frame pump, plus added a computer so far. I'm quite happy with it, and at this point, I definitely feel that I made the right choice.

That said, I am getting much more interested in wheels, seeing what CF feels like, and wondering if the Campy legacy is worth the price. But for right now, the engine is my primary focus.
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i had purchased a gunnar roadie frame and picked what i wanted on it last summer. i knew that i better put i wanted on it because there is now way i can tell my wife that i spent this much on it and now need a new....put many miles on it and have recently added a computer. unfortunately the computer only reads .9 miles. i ruptured my achilies a day after the computer was installed. bummer.
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Here is the advice I give to first time buyer. Buy the best bike you can afford (or slightly above what you can afford). If you spend the money now and like road cycling then you will be big time money ahead of the game. If of course you buy the expensive bike and hate road riding then you are SOL. This happened to my buddy who was going spend $800.00 on a low end road bike. I gave him this advice and he spent $1500.00 on a LeMond Buenos Aires. He rode about 10 times and decided he didn't like riding. The bike just sold on ebay for $700.00, w/pedals/computer/saddle bag.

I spent $400 on my first bike and within 5 months I sold it for less than half of what I paid and got a better bike so it's risk but one that I believe is worth taking.
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Fresh out of College in 2004 saving money for law school in 2005, I scrapped together my money to get a Bianchi Veloce, only thing that's ever changed on that bike is its pedals.
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I just got a Trek 1200 2 weeks ago and I love it. Thinking about getting a new seat though as this one kind of hurts the boys. I also may upgrade the brakes because they suck but other then that, I like it.
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Last year around this time I was asking questions on this forum about which bike to buy. I chose the OCR 2. It is silver, black and yellow. My man got his OCR 3 about a month before I got mine. I was supposed to get the OCR 3, but they were having trouble getting the right size from the factory, so they offered me the upgrade. I one upped' my husband again, getting the better bike. I love mine, but he does not like his SORA components. In fact, he is thinking about getting all new components.

I remember thinking "I hate this bike, its all wrong, this is soooo uncomfortable." I was considering taking it back. Just yesterday I rode my MTB for the 1st time since the RB. It was terrible. First the position felt totally weird, then the toe clips were terrible. I guess I will have to buy some frogs for the MTB. Funny how that happens???!!!
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I lucked into a deal for a college friend who owns a bike shop so was able to get a 105/ultegra equipped bike for the price of Tiagra for my firtst roadie last January. I am glad I did not get the lower spec bike or I would have upgrade fever. The only thing I have changed so far is the seat. Everything else is still better than the rider.
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I got lucky buying a 1990 Cannondale SR800 off ebay. The only change I have made to it in 4 years of riding is to drop my small front gear a few teeth (the hills in Little Rock can be a b*tch!). The only other thing I'm thinking of changing is the front fork. I'd like to switch from the alum to carbon for more comfort on the long rides.
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Did my research, had my budget, ended up with a fantastic bike which I ride every chance I get. Sure, I get bike lust when I see rigs like the carbon Soloist or the R2.5, but those were way above my meagre budget.

Have upgraded the stock c'dale brakes to Ultegra 6500s, the seat to an Arione, and the pedals to Quattros.
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