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AdkMtnMonster 05-16-20 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 21478816)
Where are you located?


North Creek.

travelerman 05-17-20 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21476283)
Nope. There are two types of people: 1) those that love their Varia and would replace it instantly if it was lost/broken and 2) those that haven't used one.

This.

Seattle Forrest 05-17-20 10:01 PM

Carried the bike out, realized the Varia battery was dead while I was calibrating my power meter. I said to hell with it and rode anyway. Spent two hours feeling a little apprehensive, and looking behind me more often because of lane positioning.

It's just better to be riding with the radar. It makes its value known immediately. Not using it is like not taking your vitamins, it isn't the end of the world, but it's not ideal and feels a little off.

kissTheApex 05-18-20 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest (Post 21476872)

Does the radar work in indoor profiles? That would at least reduce battery drain on the watch.

It does not with the edge series, but can’t tell if it’s the same with the Fenix.

rtalain 05-18-20 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest (Post 21476872)
I would LOVE it if you could use the Varia in watch mode. If that was possible, I'd probably get a cheaper Edge, like the 530. The vibration on your wrist is easier to notice than the little chirp, especially in any kind of noisy environment.

Does the radar work in indoor profiles? That would at least reduce battery drain on the watch.

If you have a Garmin watch, you can get Varia alerts on your wrist.

rtalain 05-18-20 02:04 PM

As far as what I do when I get an alert is sometimes slide over if there's room to do so comfortably, but most of the time, I just hold my line and ride predictably. To me, the best use case is when I want to get over to make a left turn. If the radar is clear, I look over my shoulder and move into the roadway. If the radar shows cars, I know I don't even have to bother looking.

Seattle Forrest 05-22-20 11:48 AM

I haven't been honked at once since getting the radar.

It's kind of like talking vs talking over the internet, there's no intonation, etc. A car horn can mean "get on the sidewalk Lance" or it can mean "know that I'm behind you." I've been riding in the middle of the lane (residential streets, and traffic is still pretty light in most places) and moving over when the alert goes off, the driver sees me do that and they see my steady light start flashing at them. They know I'm aware of their presence. No need to honk. It's one thing to get honked at in your isolated car with the radio playing, it's a lot more jarring on a bike. Never felt like it would startle me into crashing or anything, it's just unpleasant.

sfrider 05-22-20 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest (Post 21490741)
I haven't been honked at once since getting the radar.

Interestingly, I haven't either.

Cyclist0108 05-22-20 04:40 PM

I have, but I definitely think it has reduced the potential confrontations. Generally, non-psychos will behave properly if they think you aren't deliberately trying to be a road-hog.

tntyz 05-23-20 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest (Post 21490741)
I haven't been honked at once since getting the radar.

It's kind of like talking vs talking over the internet, there's no intonation, etc. A car horn can mean "get on the sidewalk Lance" or it can mean "know that I'm behind you." I've been riding in the middle of the lane (residential streets, and traffic is still pretty light in most places) and moving over when the alert goes off, the driver sees me do that and they see my steady light start flashing at them. They know I'm aware of their presence. No need to honk. It's one thing to get honked at in your isolated car with the radio playing, it's a lot more jarring on a bike. Never felt like it would startle me into crashing or anything, it's just unpleasant.

In Wisconsin, there used to be a section of the traffic code that if you were moving slower than 50% of posted speed and a car honked, you had to pull over to let them pass. This applied to all slow-moving vehicles, but there was no exclusion for bicycles.

RNAV 05-24-20 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by August West (Post 21473581)
I have both too and agree the Flare RT is brighter and more visible in normal flash mode. But when the Varia goes into hyper-flash as it senses an approaching object they look about the same brightness and attention getting factor to my eye. Have you set them up and tried this little test? I'm curious if it is just my perception or others see the same thing.

I had no idea the Varia goes into hyper-flash. Does it do that by default?

spdntrxi 05-24-20 12:53 PM

I just want the d-shape post thingy.... dont care about gen3. I have gen2 and gen1

RNAV 05-24-20 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Greiselman (Post 21476221)
How do you envision mounting the radar unit? I also want to keep my Flare but if I want both the light and the radar unit to be level and I'm not sure if I have the real estate on my seatpost for both units + a small seatbag.

Mount the radar unit on the seat post as usual; mount the flare under the saddle. I run tubeless, so I don't need a saddlebag. I've got a plug kit, CO2, and a multi-tool in my jersey.

August West 05-24-20 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by RNAV (Post 21494603)
I had no idea the Varia goes into hyper-flash. Does it do that by default?

As far as I know, mine has always done it. You can test it easy by just turning on to day flash and walking up from behind the bike so the radar sees you as an approaching object. I discovered by accent one day and was surprised how bright it appeared to be. I'm not sure if the intensity increases but the flash rate does causing it to at least appear much brighter.

August West 05-24-20 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by RNAV (Post 21494611)
Mount the radar unit on the seat post as usual; mount the flare under the saddle. I run tubeless, so I don't need a saddlebag. I've got a plug kit, CO2, and a multi-tool in my jersey.

That's exactly what I do. I like the radar and long battery life of the Varia with the light turned off but like the brighter light and compact, hidden look of the Flare RT. I switched back and forth few times and finally decided why not just run them both and turn off the light on the Varia.

August West 05-24-20 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by spdntrxi (Post 21494605)
I just want the d-shape post thingy.... dont care about gen3. I have gen2 and gen1

I ordered the whole kit, part #010-10644-12 since it shows there are all 3 shims included. It arrived Friday but only had the 2 shims the 510 came with so I ended up RMA'ing it. The rep. I talked to said the photo was wrong and the new Universal Mount Kit that has the 3 shims isn't out yet. Also said I wasn't the only one who was mislead by the wrong picture. He said when they do release the new mount kit it will have a different part #. Wish I could order just the D shaped shim since I don't need any of the other stuff in the kit.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d845aa6f61.jpg

spdntrxi 05-24-20 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by August West (Post 21494890)
I ordered the whole kit, part #010-10644-12 since it shows there are all 3 shims included. It arrived Friday but only had the 2 shims the 510 came with so I ended up RMA'ing it. The rep. I talked to said the photo was wrong and the new Universal Mount Kit that has the 3 shims isn't out yet. Also said I wasn't the only one who was mislead by the wrong picture. He said when they do release the new mount kit it will have a different part #. Wish I could order just the D shaped shim since I don't need any of the other stuff in the kit.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d845aa6f61.jpg


yes I saw that and read the description (2 shims) and thus I didn't order :). Dumb Garmin

diphthong 05-24-20 05:04 PM

how easy or difficult is it to swap the varia mount(s) between different bikes? this coming from a guy that has bought two additional garmin “out front” computer handlebar mounts because i found it to be a pita when wanting to swap mounts between bikes. .

spdntrxi 05-24-20 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by ooga-booga (Post 21494964)
how easy or difficult is it to swap the varia mount(s) between different bikes? this coming from a guy that has bought two additional garmin “out front” computer handlebar mounts because i found it to be a pita when wanting to swap mounts between bikes. .

it's super easy... take all of a couple seconds. But I'm lazy and will buy mounts. I have 4 bikes that I ride and 3 mounts. Only 2 bikes have the same shaped seat post.

daoswald 05-24-20 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rides4Beer (Post 21472929)
Like he said, if you already have one (I do), not much incentive to upgrade. I have a Wahoo that links up via Ant+, so the bluetooth functionality isn't a draw. I guess if you didn't have a bike computer and wanted to use your smartphone with the radar, you might be interested.

I'm curious who is interested in just the radar without the taillight, especially given that it's a really good/visible light. But they must have thought there was a market for it.

I have a Cygolite Hot Shot Pro 150 that is everything I could want in a tail light. Standalone radar makes sense to me.

spdntrxi 05-24-20 05:50 PM

Garmin just need to buy cycliq.. or make a radar and video recording unit all in one unit and then have a mode where is only records on radar pickup. I'd buy it yesterday

diphthong 05-24-20 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by spdntrxi (Post 21494969)
it's super easy... take all of a couple seconds. But I'm lazy and will buy mounts. I have 4 bikes that I ride and 3 mounts. Only 2 bikes have the same shaped seat post.

thanks. sounds like we are of the same mindset.

August West 05-24-20 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by spdntrxi (Post 21494941)
yes I saw that and read the description (2 shims) and thus I didn't order :). Dumb Garmin

I saw the description too but figured it might be wrong (since it only includes 2 rubberbands, not 4 like the description says) and why would they update the picture and still sell the old kit? Oh well, it didn't cost anything since they gave me a full refund including shipping. The round post works good enough on my D seat post but will get the updated D shim when available. Or maybe I can find someone who purchased a 515 but doesn't need the D shim.


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