OK, I'll play, just for the heck of it.

OP: please tell me what realm of human endeavor (vocation, avocation, religion, philosophy, etc.) is free from people who display arrogance?

You sound happy.

Obviously they are just poseurs. Everyone knows it's tacky to ride on the MUP. I read it right here on the forum!

wow. best answer by far! thx

And then the ignored riders will take to the forums complaining about her/him being arrogant and the circle will be complete.

Ignoring them is like them having Alzheimer's. They won't know.

I was ignored once.

You missed the best one, Cool Runnings.

Wait, when I'm out there with the kids am I also a poseur or is it only if I ride the road bike there without the kids? :foo:

Everybody on a bicycle is my best friend because I may need their help, and would willingly give them mine, at some point in the ride. The only ones that are not my friends are groups that present health risks by riding in tight pacelines.

I don't often waive to others unless they waive to me first, but if we are close enough to make eye contact I do nod. However, if I'm trying to take QOM on one of my favorite Strava segments then I may not even see you at all as all of my concentration is on my breathing (stupid asthma).

My mom used to tell me when I complained about the "other" kids in school growing up (only black kid in my class thru grade 6) that I have no control over how someone responds to me because their response is based on how they are feeling about themselves. She was a very smart lady.

The other day I was passing a guy who had stopped in the shade and I was tired but I slowed and asked if he was OK. He said something that I couldn't understand but it sounded positive so I kept going. After a minute I started thinking about it but decided to keep going. My brain stops working when I get tired.

Serious, non-snarky question: what makes touring more serious than racing?

I'd also like to know. I'd get it if he said 'commuters' instead of touring though.

Couldn’t figure that out on your own?

Sad.

100% yes.

As someone who tours, I ask the same question. While I have never raced, I’ve watched enough racing live and on TV to figure out that you cannot pull over and chill whenever you want to if you want to stay competitive.

I'm quite an Anglophile, but I think the US has this one. I think of inverse like this: the inverse of 3 is 1/3. Inverse snobbery would then be 1/snobbery, or just a fraction that gets closer and closer to zero the higher the original snobbery value. In a sense, "inverse snobbery" would be humility, or egalitarianism, or something else.

I've run into arrogant cyclists, but to be honest I don't think the cycling world of real people is overrepresented in this regard than the general population. For every dude who shows up to a group ride extremely pleased with himself because he imagines that his bike is more expensive than everyone else's, there are probably hundreds of folks who do the exact same with their cars, their gated housing communities, their cameras, their gaming computers, or any other hobby or money-pit we all like to gather around and empty our wallets. Most of the folks who I've met in group rides are very friendly, and I've enjoyed riding with them a lot. I can hardly wait for the Covid to fade away so the bike shops can start doing their group rides again.

He who is without sin, let him first cast a stone. Confession time: if I'm honest, I do sometimes feel a twinge of smugness when I blow by non-cyclist folks out toodling along on their random bikes. And by "random bikes" I just mean what most non-cyclists would think of as a bike. I wave to them all, of course, and they wave back.

Shots fired! Shots fired!

You are probably right. Either way, the bike is a means to an end....
Anyway, I was stirring the pot to see if I got a bite from some serious riders...

Ladies and Gents we have a winner
 

Too funny

Seems that on average cyclists are overly concerned about how they are perceived. I suppose it natural given the exposure.

Pics or it didn't happen....
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I am lycra-clad and very friendly. I won't even bully you for sounding like a out of touch journalist writing a story about lycra-clad cyclists. "Lycra-clad" is almost as smearing as "Lance wanna be". But I'll forgive you for the bit about carbon fiber, we all know what jerks those folks are.

So this thread was on my mind today as i went out for my ride. Had a bunch of VO2 max intervals and then a long steady Z3 effort. In the recovery between the VO2 efforts, I saw a cyclist coming the other way. I nodded at him. The nod was returned. We both went our separate ways.

It wasnt as rewarding an experience as I thought it would be - frankly, I feel let down.