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Trek Domane - possibly destroyed in strange incident

Old 06-16-20, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
I suppose you could check your homeowners/renters policy to see if there's anything that could make sense?

What is the latest verdict on bike insurance policies.. still pricey? Talking about the Velosurance or Markel types of products. Alternatively a rider on a renters/homeowner policy.
I looked into insurance a couple years ago. It was about $500 per year per bike.
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Old 06-16-20, 11:39 AM
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Hard to understand how this happened, considering the amount sticks, mud etc I have rode thru on my Cross bike
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Old 06-16-20, 11:40 AM
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I actually don't know where the crack to the frame is yet. I took it to my LBS and dropped it off with them to analyze and figure out how many components got wrecked. They have not gotten back to me with a final evaluation but when I spoke to them yesterday, they said they had concerns about a crack in the bottom of the down tube which the more I think about the stranger I think that is. I am an hour away from the store so once they finish with the evaluation I will head in and see it with my own eyes and figure out what to do. I never thought about insurance for a bike before, but that's mostly because I never rode something so nice before.
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Old 06-16-20, 11:54 AM
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Consider yourself lucky. I had a stick get kicked up. Hit the bladed spokes of the front wheel. Got spun up and lodged horizontally between the inside of the fork and the brake. I was powering up at the base of a small hill. Doing about 16 mph. Front wheel locked up. I went flying. Hit the ground and split the end of my clavicle. Fortunately, I had enough time to keep my head up so that it barely grazed the road. Got a free ambulance ride to the closest hospital.
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Old 06-16-20, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
I looked into insurance a couple years ago. It was about $500 per year per bike.
It's based on replacement value, right? Eg. maybe $500 for a new $5k bike?
Does premium drop like a rock as bike is used (eg. 2nd year large premium decline or based on bicyclebluebook values)? Or is replacement value always for a new bike whatever trim line matches most closely?

I guess curious how they'd assign value eg. for a decade(s) old Ti bike with newer components and wheels, eg. from a company that doesn't even exist any more.

Originally Posted by Jungleland View Post
I never thought about insurance for a bike before, but that's mostly because I never rode something so nice before.
Do you have a home/rental policy? You could always ask your agent what they could do for you (if anything).. though probably a largish deductible.
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Old 06-16-20, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jungleland View Post
a crack in the bottom of the down tube
Could that have possibly caused the accident, and the stick is a red herring?
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Old 06-16-20, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
Could that have possibly caused the accident, and the stick is a red herring?
Is there a lesson in all this.. ie. don't pretend you know for sure what caused the damage when you approach the LBS/Manufacturer? If it possibly wasn't the sticks fault, did the OP talk himself unnecessarily out of potential warranty replacement?
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Old 06-16-20, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
Could that have possibly caused the accident, and the stick is a red herring?
How would that have snapped an RD cage? I'm not seeing it.
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Old 06-16-20, 12:27 PM
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It all seems implausible, so I just raised it as a question, not to offer it as a definitive explanation.
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Old 06-16-20, 12:34 PM
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Not to start stuff, but I've seen bikes not setup properly from the shop drop chains and have drivetrain issues like this happen early. Some sucking the RD into the wheels and ruining the bike. So, the stick could be a red herring as stated above. Again, not to start stuff........but I've seen so many folks show up on group rides on a brand new bike from the shop have a ride littered with "mechanicals".

Was the stick still actually in the drivetrain afterwards?

In a properly tuned drivetrain it takes a good amount of a "stick" going into it or issues going thru to actually do this.
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Old 06-16-20, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
It's based on replacement value, right? Eg. maybe $500 for a new $5k bike?
Does premium drop like a rock as bike is used (eg. 2nd year large premium decline or based on bicyclebluebook values)? Or is replacement value always for a new bike whatever trim line matches most closely?

I guess curious how they'd assign value eg. for a decade(s) old Ti bike with newer components and wheels, eg. from a company that doesn't even exist any more.
I'm not sure the answer to your question, but I do know that they know the bike industry well, unlike car insurers, and are quite reluctant to pay out claims. You crash and break your RD, you are only getting a new RD. You could scratch the crap out of your shifters, but if they still function, they're not getting replaced.
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Old 06-16-20, 01:14 PM
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I've had that happen (only trashed the RD, hanger & chain).

It doesn't take much, & could happen to anyone. Little need to look for obscure operator/shop/manufacturer error IMO.

Don't see any obvious frame damage, so hopefully some new parts & you'll be back in action.

Even if frame repair is needed, it's very do-able.
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Old 06-16-20, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by eduskator View Post
OP rolls on a debris on the road that smashes his drive train & messes-up his frame, then this guy shows up to the party and says a TI bike is better. Is it safe to conclude that the argument here is that a TI bike would have better survived this unfortunate incident?

Who the hell invited that guy anyways?
Actually I am not try to be difficult at all and I do think that carbon fiber is fine for a frame. I just mentioned that generally these issue do not come up with steel or Ti frames. It is a thought that possibly a Ti frame is something to look at. I make have no intentions of bad ill. The OP had a really bad mishap and that it terrible. The main thing is he did not get hurt in a crash. I also know the TI frames generally have CF forks so they certainly have some the the OP material in them. As a life long cyclist with many miles and bikes I just think that OP might want to look at TI it is not any more money really.

I am sorry that the group took it the way I presented the post. My post was just that I really find TI to be better frame material at least for me. If I was racing and going for a super light bike they are not the choice for sure. For an old timer like myself I find TI pretty attractive.

My advice to the original post is to contact Trek and see if they can work something out. I bet they can come to something that might be pretty fair. I have not idea on the repair end except that is possible too best left to an expert not me for sure.
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Old 06-16-20, 02:53 PM
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How would that have snapped an RD cage? I'm not seeing it.
If things moved out of alignment then the RD can do some unfun things!
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Old 06-16-20, 03:25 PM
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What part of "let's not rehash the same ol' frame material bull****" do you guys not understand?
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I'm trying to understand how the chain broke.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
If things moved out of alignment then the RD can do some unfun things!
The vast majority of the tension is on the top run of the chain; still not seeing how the crankset moving out of alignment would somehow snap the RD cage, on the bottom run of the chain, as opposed to simply throwing the chain.
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Originally Posted by mercator View Post
I'm trying to understand how the chain broke.
!'m guessing the chain broke when the pulley cage got twisted and broke. (I'm guessing the "twisted" also, but it certainly appears that way in the photos.) You can see the broken cage in the second photo. The cage appears to be carbon fiber, which would not like the bending or twisting, Once you bend modern chain links, all bets are off for it staying intact. Very good chance of the flush mounted pin pulling out of the sideplate.
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Hopefully the shop will have Trek look at it. It may take a month. I think for damage like that Trek has regional people come take a look. Good Luck. I hope they replace the frame and just charge for the derailleurs and new chain. Who knows someone may in fact buy a Checkpoint SL over a Warroad.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
The vast majority of the tension is on the top run of the chain; still not seeing how the crankset moving out of alignment would somehow snap the RD cage, on the bottom run of the chain, as opposed to simply throwing the chain.
The comment was related to the downtube snapping for whatever reason, not the crankset. Not sure where you got that.
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Old 06-16-20, 05:03 PM
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I just spoke with the bike shop and it was the chain stay that looks to have a couple of small cracks (the rest of the frame is fine so that makes more sense). He took pics and sent them to both Trek (to their warranty and service people) and a frame repair person to get their opinions. They seem to be advocating for me which is nice.
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Originally Posted by Jungleland View Post
I actually don't know where the crack to the frame is yet. .
+1

Looking at the second photo, I wonder if the bottom portion of the seat tube is damaged. It's hard to tell from the photo,

Is that area of the seat tube(above the BB) scratched up, or is it just glare in the photo?
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
The comment was related to the downtube snapping for whatever reason, not the crankset. Not sure where you got that.
Okay. What you said makes even less sense, then.
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