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Removing Supersix wheel

Old 06-27-20, 06:52 PM
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Removing Supersix wheel

I know this is a stupid question. But I've recently got a Cannondale Supersix Evo and, for the life of me, cannot figure out how you would take off + replace the wheel. I've only ever had bikes with quick release or through axles, or a nut-and-bolt system that was self-explanatory. It's also my first carbon bike, and of course I am paranoid about doing any damage at this early date. Do I just need two allen wrenches, one for either side?
Again sorry for the dumb question, just could not figure it out from Youtube and the Cannondale manual is way too generic to address this.
Also, maybe someone smart can explain why there isn't a quick release since it seems much easier!
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What year supersix Evo? Rim brake or disc? From the factory all the rim brake bikes comes with a standard quick release and drop outs. The new 2020 Evo with disc brakes have thru axles with Mavic's speed release (not sure about the prior year disc). It works essentially like a standard thru axles but you don't have to remove the axle completely for the wheel to drop but you can if you want.
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I think you have a
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Originally Posted by adamhenry View Post
I think you have a Speed release axle.
It's a 2020 disc. Here are pictures of the front wheel - both sides. I don't see any handles that look like a quick release, but maybe I am missing something?


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Originally Posted by bet1216 View Post
What year supersix Evo? Rim brake or disc? From the factory all the rim brake bikes comes with a standard quick release and drop outs. The new 2020 Evo with disc brakes have thru axles with Mavic's speed release (not sure about the prior year disc). It works essentially like a standard thru axles but you don't have to remove the axle completely for the wheel to drop but you can if you want.
Thanks for replying! It's a 2020 but I posted pictures, and don't see anything that looks a through axle or quick release - let me know what you think.
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Mavic Speed release thru axles (they are used the Topstone also). No handles. It just takes an allen key (6mm I think) into the end on the top picture. Turn it just like a handled thru axle. When it unscrews from the other end you just have to pull the axle a little and it will drop down. It's a great system. I can take a picture of the axle tomorrow if you want to see it out of the wheel.
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Originally Posted by bet1216 View Post
Mavic Speed release thru axles (they are used the Topstone also). No handles. It just takes an allen key (6mm I think) into the end on the top picture. Turn it just like a handled thru axle. When it unscrews from the other end you just have to pull the axle a little and it will drop down. It's a great system. I can take a picture of the axle tomorrow if you want to see it out of the wheel.
That would be great. I was looking for a standard quick-release handle like the video above. It looked like an Allen key solution, but wasn't sure what side and didn't want to damage anything (did I mention I'm paranoid about that so far?) It seems odd they wouldn't just have a handle/lever as shown above on the SystemSix, or again I might be missing something.
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One thing to look for when putting the wheel back in is to make sure it is centered. The system is nice because you don’t need to remove the axle entirely, but it also introduces a little play, somewhat analogous to a regular QR. Regular thru axles don’t have this “ problem”. Enjoy your SuperSix. After getting the kinks worked out I love mine. It is night and day from the Synapse. Dealers should insist on people test riding both so they can feel the difference.
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Originally Posted by bet1216 View Post
Mavic Speed release thru axles (they are used the Topstone also). No handles. It just takes an allen key (6mm I think) into the end on the top picture. Turn it just like a handled thru axle. When it unscrews from the other end you just have to pull the axle a little and it will drop down. It's a great system. I can take a picture of the axle tomorrow if you want to see it out of the wheel.
Not having a QR is great ?
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
Not having a QR is great ?
Not having the handle is great...i just have to add a small allen wrench to my repair kit. I also think no QR is much better on disc brake bikes. The stiffness of the axle is much better than any QR. No QR is a pain when I have to haul my bikes around because I only haul them inside my vehicles and I have to take off the front wheel so have to get the allen wrench out both times. The Speed Release is much better than traditional thru axles because you don't have to take the axle out and risk getting dirt on the grease.
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Well it seems since I don't post much I can't post a picture until I have 10 post
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When I have 10 I will post the pictures
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This is not the correct, or at least OE from Cannondale.
The latest gen SuperSix, CAAD etc all come with the speed release through axles with the attached lever for quick release, I'm not sure why yours would be equipped differently? Call Cdale customer support, they should be able to send you one (source: they replaced mine )

Page 20, item 'T': cannondale.com/-/media/files/manual-uploads/manuals/019_137369_OMS%20MY20%20SUPERSIX_EN.pdf (sorry, can't post direct links yet..)
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Originally Posted by waters60 View Post
It is night and day from the Synapse. Dealers should insist on people test riding both so they can feel the difference.
What are the differences?
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
What are the differences?
If you have a chance to ride both you can find out. The Supersix is more responsive and a better climber. It is more fun.
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Originally Posted by markynels View Post
This is not the correct, or at least OE from Cannondale.
The latest gen SuperSix, CAAD etc all come with the speed release through axles with the attached lever for quick release, I'm not sure why yours would be equipped differently? Call Cdale customer support, they should be able to send you one (source: they replaced mine )

Page 20, item 'T': cannondale.com/-/media/files/manual-uploads/manuals/019_137369_OMS%20MY20%20SUPERSIX_EN.pdf (sorry, can't post direct links yet..)
I can tell you mine is a 2020 Supersix and needs the Allen key. It is no different than any of the other 2020 Supersixes.


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Originally Posted by markynels View Post
This is not the correct, or at least OE from Cannondale.
The latest gen SuperSix, CAAD etc all come with the speed release through axles with the attached lever for quick release, I'm not sure why yours would be equipped differently? Call Cdale customer support, they should be able to send you one (source: they replaced mine )

Page 20, item 'T': cannondale.com/-/media/files/manual-uploads/manuals/019_137369_OMS%20MY20%20SUPERSIX_EN.pdf (sorry, can't post direct links yet..)
My Supersix Evo did not come with a lever. Neither did the 2020 Topstone Carbon. Both bikes use the same speed release thru axle.
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I have the pictures to post showing every thing...however I still can't post them...very frustrating...and you can only post 5 times a day max. grrrr
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Here the pictures are:

Removed speed release thru axle from a 2020 Supersix Evo. Notice the notice that allows for the wheel to come out without removing the axle completely.




Allen key to remove thru axle on 2020 Cannondale Topstone Carbon that uses the same thru axle and speed release. As you can see with no lever or QR end it is very clean set up.



How far you have to pull out the axle to drop the wheel off.

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Front fork with wheel removed. The notched dropout is where the notch in the thru axle goes. A slick system compared to the normal thru axles that require you to remove the axle completely.

Thru axle still on the wheel after taking it off (the axle isn't pulled out any more than in the other picture with the wheel still on). You can see how the notch goes into the dropout, then you screw it in the thicker part of the axle in the notched part of the drop out so it will not come out.
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Originally Posted by waters60 View Post
I can tell you mine is a 2020 Supersix and needs the Allen key. It is no different than any of the other 2020 Supersixes.
I'm shocked! I've yet to see a CAAD or SuperSix with standard thru axles here locally so far this year, whether in the LBS or at group rides. My fleet have standard non-quick release thru axles and so I thought these were a major selling feature of the latest cdale TBH..

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... I mean this is clearly the speed release pn referenced in the manual for the MY2020 super six- what am i missing?

cannondalespares.com/Cannondale-CAAD13--Supersix-EVO--Supersix-EVO-NEO--SystemSix-Front-Speed-Release-Thru-Axle--100x12--K83019/product_detail/3-44334
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Just a couple of people with 2020 Supersixes showing pictures of their Speed Release axles plus my image from Cannondale’s website....
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Originally Posted by bet1216 View Post
Here the pictures are:


Removed speed release thru axle from a 2020 Supersix Evo. Notice the notice that allows for the wheel to come out without removing the axle completely.





Allen key to remove thru axle on 2020 Cannondale Topstone Carbon that uses the same thru axle and speed release. As you can see with no lever or QR end it is very clean set up.





How far you have to pull out the axle to drop the wheel off.

Thanks for the pictures! Used them today when I got a flat already and had to remove the wheel (am starting to think this hype about tubeless is nonsense) and actually find this quick release system really annoying compared to a handle. But anyway, when I went to reinstall the wheel, the disc brake seems to fit in the slot and the wheel is in the dropouts, wheel spins easily both in freewheel and when turning the pedals, but I can't get the whole axle in. It just looks like your image above with a bit sticking out because it doesn't go right through to the other side. Obviously something isn't lined up but what?
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