Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Why bib shorts rather than just shorts?

Notices
Road Cycling ďIt is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.Ē -- Ernest Hemingway

Why bib shorts rather than just shorts?

Old 07-24-20, 02:08 AM
  #1  
ZHVelo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
Posts: 418
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 253 Post(s)
Liked 123 Times in 84 Posts
Why bib shorts rather than just shorts?

Why do people ride bib sorts?

I have only shorts, never have any problem with them, can't imagine having those weird straps over my shoulder under my jersey, not to mention bib shorts seem to be ridiculously more expensive compared to shorts given that all they add is a little bit of fabric that isn't even the most important part of the garment.
ZHVelo is offline  
Likes For ZHVelo:
Old 07-24-20, 02:13 AM
  #2  
SurferCyclist
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Pembrokeshire, UK
Posts: 64

Bikes: Canyon Endurace CF 9.0 Di2, Cannondale CaaD 8, Diamondback MTB(ancient)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Liked 53 Times in 16 Posts
Much more comfortable, no waist band digging in for hours on end. There may be a case of better fit as well, the straps keep shorts in place but primarily it's a comfort thing.
SurferCyclist is offline  
Likes For SurferCyclist:
Old 07-24-20, 02:16 AM
  #3  
ZHVelo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
Posts: 418
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 253 Post(s)
Liked 123 Times in 84 Posts
Really? The straps would make me uncomfortable as hell, but ok I can see what you mean about pressure from the waistband.
ZHVelo is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 02:34 AM
  #4  
SurferCyclist
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Pembrokeshire, UK
Posts: 64

Bikes: Canyon Endurace CF 9.0 Di2, Cannondale CaaD 8, Diamondback MTB(ancient)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Liked 53 Times in 16 Posts
Well all you can do is try a pair, might feel strange rather than uncomfortable at first with the straps but soon forget about them and believe me MUCH more comfortable over a period of time.

However, apparently some people have different preferences(who'd have thought) so you may prefer just shorts.
SurferCyclist is offline  
Likes For SurferCyclist:
Old 07-24-20, 03:18 AM
  #5  
guadzilla
Pointy Helmet Tribe
 
guadzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Offthebackistan
Posts: 4,177

Bikes: Venge, R5, Shiv, Lynskey and a few more

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 424 Post(s)
Liked 512 Times in 239 Posts
Originally Posted by ZHVelo View Post
Why do people ride bib sorts?

I have only shorts, never have any problem with them, can't imagine having those weird straps over my shoulder under my jersey, not to mention bib shorts seem to be ridiculously more expensive compared to shorts given that all they add is a little bit of fabric that isn't even the most important part of the garment.
They keep my boys snug, no how much i may squirm, move or sweat on the bike.
guadzilla is offline  
Likes For guadzilla:
Old 07-24-20, 04:42 AM
  #6  
Garfield Cat
Senior Member
 
Garfield Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 6,935

Bikes: Cervelo Prodigy

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 398 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 30 Times in 21 Posts
On long rides, the bibs are better. Shorts are very dependent on fit and that means the padding positioning will change on you. More a vertical movement than horizontal. I think that's why the shorts people who don't seem to care about the padding, can go shorts without any problems.

On the Grand Tours, you won't find one rider who will go shorts. It will be bibs. Even then, their bibs are custom made when it comes to the padding. It's not about bowing to the manufacturer who is sponsoring the team, its about taking every advantage and fit benefit as possible. Most, if not all, paddings are designed and made in Italy, but you will find copies in the Far East.
Garfield Cat is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 05:53 AM
  #7  
dr_max
Senior Member
 
dr_max's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 378

Bikes: BMC SLC01 Promachine with full DA grupo on Ksyrium ES/ BMC Roadmachine 01 One disc Ultegra with DT Swiss

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 127 Post(s)
Liked 45 Times in 27 Posts
Originally Posted by ZHVelo View Post
Why do people ride bib sorts?

I have only shorts, never have any problem with them, can't imagine having those weird straps over my shoulder under my jersey, not to mention bib shorts seem to be ridiculously more expensive compared to shorts given that all they add is a little bit of fabric that isn't even the most important part of the garment.
some people complain of the waistband rolling down and being uncomfortable.

depends on physionomy and If you have a beer belly or not
dr_max is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 06:04 AM
  #8  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 27,464
Mentioned: 193 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11706 Post(s)
Liked 3,541 Times in 1,887 Posts
Originally Posted by ZHVelo View Post
The straps would make me uncomfortable as hell...
You canít really say that until youíve tried them. I used to think the same thing until I tried. Iíll never go back to NOT BIBS again.

I compare it to riding with a CamelBak. When I first started touring I couldnít imagine using one. Thought it would be very uncomfortable, especially in hot weather. Then I toured in Andalucia, where it was sometimes difficult to get water for long, hilly stretches. Got to a big city and bought one. Found that it was uncomfortable at all. Now, I never tour without one.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 07-24-20, 06:11 AM
  #9  
sdmc530
Heft On Wheels
 
sdmc530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 2,773

Bikes: Specialized,Cannondale,Argon 18

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 746 Post(s)
Liked 303 Times in 223 Posts
I was an anti bib guy for a long time...then tried a pair. Now I won't ride without them as opposed to regular shorts. They are very comfortable and keep it all in place. The fit is just much better IMO.
sdmc530 is offline  
Likes For sdmc530:
Old 07-24-20, 06:18 AM
  #10  
Amt0571
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Catalonia
Posts: 551

Bikes: Canyon Grand Canyon AL SL 8.0, Btwin Ultra 520 AF GF, Dahon Mu P27, Triban Road 7

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 215 Post(s)
Liked 86 Times in 57 Posts
Originally Posted by ZHVelo View Post
Really? The straps would make me uncomfortable as hell, but ok I can see what you mean about pressure from the waistband.
Have you tried them? I don't notice the straps. The waistband bothers me though. Maybe not in short rides, but it's extremely uncomfortable on long rides. I wouldn't want to ride for 10 hours with shorts.
Amt0571 is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 06:46 AM
  #11  
shelbyfv
Banned.
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 7,172
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1810 Post(s)
Liked 1,182 Times in 672 Posts
You should try bibs, then decide for yourself. I resisted them for years but was converted with my first pair. With waist shorts I would have to make adjustments at each stop. With bibs, no adjustments needed for the entire ride. Just keep the straps under your jersey....
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 07:17 AM
  #12  
CAT7RDR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Hacienda Hgts
Posts: 769

Bikes: 1999 Schwinn Peloton Ultegra 10, Kestrel RT-1000 Ultegra, Trek Marlin 6 Deore 29'er

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 261 Post(s)
Liked 429 Times in 260 Posts
All things being equal in the quality department, I concur. A good pair of bibs are superior in every way except cost.
CAT7RDR is online now  
Likes For CAT7RDR:
Old 07-24-20, 07:23 AM
  #13  
BillyD
Administrator
 
BillyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 27,791

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92

Mentioned: 295 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7827 Post(s)
Liked 1,286 Times in 735 Posts
Originally Posted by ZHVelo View Post
Why do people ride bib sorts?

I have only shorts, never have any problem with them, can't imagine having those weird straps over my shoulder under my jersey, not to mention bib shorts seem to be ridiculously more expensive compared to shorts given that all they add is a little bit of fabric that isn't even the most important part of the garment.
Totally agree, I have a long torso as opposed to long legs so the straps annoy the crap out of me. Also I'm not overweight. But then I tend to be a maverick anyway.
__________________
See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
BillyD is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 07:24 AM
  #14  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 30,632

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 337 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13579 Post(s)
Liked 2,845 Times in 1,528 Posts
Originally Posted by ZHVelo View Post
Why do people ride bib sorts?
Because they've actually tried them and, more often than not, they're more comfortable. Maybe you're a shorts guy, but the odds aren't good. Only one way for you to find out, though.
WhyFi is online now  
Old 07-24-20, 07:29 AM
  #15  
BillyD
Administrator
 
BillyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 27,791

Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92

Mentioned: 295 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7827 Post(s)
Liked 1,286 Times in 735 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
You canít really say that until youíve tried them. I used to think the same thing until I tried. Iíll never go back to NOT BIBS again.
I've tried them. Not happening for me. Even though I hear there are some modern versions now that offer longer straps I still struggle to find a reason to change, suffering no discomfort in shorts. So there's one thing my daddy taught me many moons ago . . . if it ain't broke leave it the f alone.
__________________
See, this is why we can't have nice things. - - smarkinson
Where else but the internet can a bunch of cyclists go and be the tough guy? - - jdon
BillyD is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 07:41 AM
  #16  
SCTinkering
Senior Member
 
SCTinkering's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
Posts: 92

Bikes: 2003 Airborne Valykire w Ultegra 6800, 2018 Trek FX-5S with GRX/Xt 1x drive train

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Liked 14 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferCyclist View Post
Much more comfortable, no waist band digging in for hours on end. There may be a case of better fit as well, the straps keep shorts in place but primarily it's a comfort thing.
Exactly this. and the straps have come a Long way even in the last 5 years. Sometimes I forget I'm wearing bibs. Assos are my current favorites, but higher models of LeCol, Gore, and Craft are also great. I used to like the Pearl Izumi Pros but they changed their short material which is fine for shorter rides, but don't handle the sweat of longer rides as well as the others.
SCTinkering is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 08:06 AM
  #17  
topflightpro
Senior Member
 
topflightpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 6,986
Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1575 Post(s)
Liked 308 Times in 212 Posts
For men, bibs keep everything in place better.
topflightpro is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 08:25 AM
  #18  
NoWhammies
Senior Member
 
NoWhammies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 1,401

Bikes: Argon 18 Gallium, BH G7, Rocky Mountain Instinct C70

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 605 Post(s)
Liked 206 Times in 129 Posts
My recommendation for the OP is to give them a try.
NoWhammies is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 08:38 AM
  #19  
walnutz
Senior Member
 
walnutz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: ATX
Posts: 521

Bikes: CO-OP ADV 3.1 aka Beeftank, Wabi Classic (nickname pending)

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Liked 48 Times in 30 Posts
The only answer here is to ride a Brooks saddle and forget about chamois. No bibs, no bike shorts.

<runs away and doesn’t look back>
walnutz is offline  
Likes For walnutz:
Old 07-24-20, 09:55 AM
  #20  
seypat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,052
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1547 Post(s)
Liked 434 Times in 312 Posts
The only way to know is to give them a try. Maybe the OP has a friend of similar size he could borrow a pair from and take a ride. Myself, I am a shorts guy. Tried bibs and run into sizing issues. Maybe if they had some with adjustable straps. In general, I have sizing issues with cycling clothing anyway. Other than to try them, here's the best advice I can give if you are getting off the shelf and not custom made.

Think of the 2 most famous cyclists named Chris. Chris Froome and Chris Hoy. Both are 6'1" but have builds on the opposite end of the spectrum.

If you are built like Froome, you might like the fit of bibs better. If you built closer to Hoy, you might prefer shorts. That's my experience, anyway.
seypat is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 11:14 AM
  #21  
ZHVelo
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
Posts: 418
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 253 Post(s)
Liked 123 Times in 84 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
You canít really say that until youíve tried them. I used to think the same thing until I tried. Iíll never go back to NOT BIBS again.

I compare it to riding with a CamelBak. When I first started touring I couldnít imagine using one. Thought it would be very uncomfortable, especially in hot weather. Then I toured in Andalucia, where it was sometimes difficult to get water for long, hilly stretches. Got to a big city and bought one. Found that it was uncomfortable at all. Now, I never tour without one.
yes, this thread has convinced me to get bib shorts the next time I need new shorts. Trying can't hurt.
ZHVelo is offline  
Likes For ZHVelo:
Old 07-24-20, 11:26 AM
  #22  
Bah Humbug
runner
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 16,380

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6021 Post(s)
Liked 1,652 Times in 882 Posts
Originally Posted by ZHVelo View Post
yes, this thread has convinced me to get bib shorts the next time I need new shorts. Trying can't hurt.
And here I was going to ask if this was a divisive topic.

Count me in the pro-bibs camp.
Bah Humbug is offline  
Likes For Bah Humbug:
Old 07-24-20, 11:36 AM
  #23  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 27,464
Mentioned: 193 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11706 Post(s)
Liked 3,541 Times in 1,887 Posts
Originally Posted by ZHVelo View Post
yes, this thread has convinced me to get bib shorts the next time I need new shorts. Trying can't hurt.
I was in a rush and neglected to write that I was skeptical myself. Thought they would be uncomfortable and hot. Eventually bought a pair with my REI dividend. Now they are all I wear. Should have learned a lesson from my CamelBak experience and tried the earlier.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 07-24-20, 11:55 AM
  #24  
79pmooney
A Roadie Forever
 
79pmooney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 8,666

Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder

Mentioned: 100 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2398 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 839 Times in 566 Posts
If you don't have a gut, you can get the comfort and "support" of bibs with far more convenience (and a few dollars saved) with clip-on suspenders. Bonus - the bathroom trips are far easier - huge plus if you are at a multi-day event. I've never had a gut. I hear the waist band on shorts is so onerous. I find suspenders quickly stretch them a little and I do not notice them at all. Rode 65 miles yesterday and thought about the shorts once. "Comfortable!"

Second bonus - when the straps stretch out (they will, suspenders or bibs), adjusting the suspenders a touch tighter is child's play. The boys stay happy.
79pmooney is offline  
Old 07-24-20, 12:36 PM
  #25  
RedBullFiXX
Senior Member
 
RedBullFiXX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: SoCal USA
Posts: 188
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 73 Post(s)
Liked 41 Times in 33 Posts
I think most Pros don't race in bibs anymore, though they do still train with them
But for the ultimate in comfort, speed, expense, Speedsuits are the Pro way these days
RedBullFiXX is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.