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Old 12-24-20, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Clearly sucks to be "that guy"! I wonder how the boat got inside the reef or is it on the reef?
On the reef. The navigator figured, "Hey, we're out in the middle of the Indian Ocean, why bother to look at the plotter at large scale when I set up the next waypoint?"
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Originally Posted by big john
A guy in my club, I can't really call him a friend but I know him, did RAAM 3 times. First try he DNF'd with hyponatremia in Colorado. His feet swelled up so much he couldn't put his shoes on.
Second try he finished and became the first finisher over 60. He learned enough in his failed attempt to get things sorted and even had time to get his crew a motel at one point.
Third time he became the first finisher over 65, I think. The only problem he had was falling asleep on the bike near the finish. He wasn't hurt and remounted and stayed awake.
These races were 2005-2008 I think. I think he skipped one or two years. He said each effort cost about $30K including renting a motorhome, fueling the motorhome and chase car both ways, feeding the crew, etc. He may have included lost wages in there.
He got some sponsorship, the best of which was gas cards. He also got free clothing but I forgot from whom. He fueled on a product called Spiz and I think they gave him cash as well as product.
Serious hardass stuff.
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Yes there is an autopilot. They can also trim sails to maintain a course relative to the wind.
I don't know what this means but what I wondered is how far off "course" a pilotless craft might go if everyone sleeps for several hours.
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Clearly charted islands too!
And uncharted ones.


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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
That doesn't make sense. If you want to stop at an exotic port-of-call, to go scuba diving, you should be allowed to.
Well, um, that's not conducive to racing objectives. If you do that you really didn't want to race in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Nobody stops to check out the Eiffel Tower during the TDF races. Winning comes first. Plenty of time to be a tourist later.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Working right along with you.
Not me, I took the day off.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Correct. But they wouldn't be disqualified if they did. Thank you very much.
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I had the same thought. My conclusion is that it's not so much a race, it's more a demonstration of endurance and self reliance, and stopping "to rest" is frowned upon. The racing aspect I suspect developed over time as the prospect of torturing oneself just for the heck of it grew in popularity.
It was always about the racing, just like pro cycling, which also emerged from the French idea of how to sell newspapers. The solo circumnavigation races are orders of magnitude crazier and more dangerous.
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She from a Mob family?
Oh boy.

Nice knowing you. What size bike you ride?
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-3°F and ~15mph winds. No ride, but shoveling the sidewalk was, uh... fun?
Ouch. That there is painful right there.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Serious hardass stuff.
I think it takes a toll on one's personality. Either that or the person who does this sort of thing tends to be a certain type. This guy would do 75 mile mountain rides before work. When he came on club rides he wasn't fast and never got involved with racer boy antics. He had a woman friend in our club who did a lot of training rides with him, the closest he got to a friend. He drove her away with some insensitive comments when her husband got sick.

Of course later I drove her away with stupid comments about how I thought she was a groovy chick.
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I am sorry, but IMO anyone who does those type of ultra-endurance events like RAAM etc. are possibly crazy.

I would consider a cross-country ride, but it would be at 100 miles/day with overnight stays in hotels or campsites, bike-packing. Pushing it too hard gets rid of all the fun.
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Why would you?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Correct. But they wouldn't be disqualified if they did. Thank you very much.
You would essentially self-disqualify if you stopped somewhere for, say, 20 minutes.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
There is: Polish-American organized crime - Wikipedia

Perhaps your wife hasn't told you everything about her.
Poles are pretty much Russians, so of course there is Polish mafia
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Originally Posted by datlas
I am sorry, but IMO anyone who does those type of ultra-endurance events like RAAM etc. are possibly crazy.

I would consider a cross-country ride, but it would be at 100 miles/day with overnight stays in hotels or campsites, bike-packing. Pushing it too hard gets rid of all the fun.
Did you ever read about RAAM champion Jure Robic? Seriously crazy, as in his crew members were afraid of him during races. It was said that he consumed 100,000 calories during a 7 day race in Europe. I think he was unbeatable most of the time.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Why would you?
My point exactly!
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Did you ever read about RAAM champion Jure Robic? Seriously crazy, as in his crew members were afraid of him during races. It was said that he consumed 100,000 calories during a 7 day race in Europe. I think he was unbeatable most of the time.
Not normal.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I don't know what this means but what I wondered is how far off "course" a pilotless craft might go if everyone sleeps for several hours.

And uncharted ones.


Not too far off course. The autopilots they use are very good.

Sails work like airplane wings. Unless you are going dead downwind, you are actually using the sails to create lift which pulls the boat forward. If you have the sails trimmed for what we call a close hauled course for example, the boat can (if it's a well balanced boat and depending on wind and sea state) sail that close hauled course on its own without any steering input. It may veer off a bit from time to time, but the boat can correct itself. It's also not the fastest thing to do because the boat will not steer itself around and through waves as well as a person will, not will it trim the sails itself to account for changes in wind direction, velocity, and sea state.



It's actually a really cool feeling when you get the boat dialed in to the point that it sails itself.
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Originally Posted by big john
I think it takes a toll on one's personality. Either that or the person who does this sort of thing tends to be a certain type. This guy would do 75 mile mountain rides before work. When he came on club rides he wasn't fast and never got involved with racer boy antics. He had a woman friend in our club who did a lot of training rides with him, the closest he got to a friend. He drove her away with some insensitive comments when her husband got sick.

Of course later I drove her away with stupid comments about how I thought she was a groovy chick.
At least you did it the right way.
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Bring back beer breaks in the TdF. And frame pumps and more gravel

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