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Old 10-11-20, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Can I and another cyclist hold 25mph taking pulls?
More precisely this. (one of the problems with the video)
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
More precisely this. (one of the problems with the video)
Do better.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I'm not a professional cyclist, but I can hold/avg 25mph on a TT bike for an hour. Can two cyclists on road bikes with my level of fitness hold 25mph taking 2-5 minute pulls at a time? 10 minute pulls?
What part of that didn't make sense, VeloVol? If I'm the one riding the TT bike, and two cyclists with my level of fitness were riding against me......
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Originally Posted by LAJ
What part of that didn't make sense, VeloVol? If I'm the one riding the TT bike, and two cyclists with my level of fitness were riding against me......
OK. In the video they didn't even do that. The TT bike and road bikes were timed separately. If you're not racing head to head, why not have the same person on both to minimize a variable?
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Sounds like this guy just took off a water bottle cage, drove a couple hours to a remote hill, and set the record. Kudos.

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Originally Posted by bampilot06
still raining.
Yep. Wet all weekend.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
OK. In the video they didn't even do that. The TT bike and road bikes were timed separately. If you're not racing head to head, why not have the same person on both to minimize a variable?
How are you going to draft off of yourself?
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Originally Posted by rjones28
How are you going to draft off of yourself?
It's hard, but apparently Velo Vol can do it.

Honestly, based on the power those guys said they put down, I think I could dust them in an hour ride. I don't think they can hold 25 mph for an hour taking pulls of any length.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
How are you going to draft off of yourself?
If the TT and the road bikes are timed separately, as in the video, why not just have the TT rider be one of the road bikers, so the comparison is as equal as possible?
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Originally Posted by rjones28
How are you going to draft off of yourself?
That...would take a sailor.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
still raining.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
OK. In the video they didn't even do that. The TT bike and road bikes were timed separately. If you're not racing head to head, why not have the same person on both to minimize a variable?
So you want the guy to follow a balls-to-the-wall effort with another balls-to-the-wall effort and you think that'll be more fair?
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Got out for a ride with one of the guys. It was WIIIIINDY. We're talkin' a steady 15+ with some stronger gusts. We planned our route accordingly, but it didn't feel like we had all that much help on the back end of the ride. Oh well - still better than the couch.
Tailwinds are overrated.
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36 hours with no rain. It's getting crispy out there. All the standing water(here) is finally gone though.

I'm seeing wildflowers that I normally only see during winter riding season. Must be the extra rain. The season will arrive any day now. Hopefully I'm caught up on the weed eating by then.

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Tailwinds are overrated.
... when you're in a sailboat.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
If the TT and the road bikes are timed separately, as in the video, why not just have the TT rider be one of the road bikers, so the comparison is as equal as possible?
Both riders have fresh legs?
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Rode my age today. I was going to save that for next month when my actual birthday happens, but I tried to do that 2 years ago, only to have it preempted by 2 weeks of "Hazardous" air, which only cleared on when it started raining, and then it rained for a month. So, in California in the Fall, you don't bet on having another opportunity.

Beautiful day for it, too! Temps around 65-70, not a cloud in the sky, AQI in the single digits. That blue thing way, way out there is the Pacific Ocean.



It was a lot easier when I did it in 2013, for some reason.....
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
So you want the guy to follow a balls-to-the-wall effort with another balls-to-the-wall effort and you think that'll be more fair?
There's no reason one has to be right after the other.

Use your brains, peoples.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Rode my age today. I was going to save that for next month when my actual birthday happens, but I tried to do that 2 years ago, only to have it preempted by 2 weeks of "Hazardous" air, which only cleared on when it started raining, and then it rained for a month. So, in California in the Fall, you don't bet on having another opportunity.

Beautiful day for it, too! Temps around 65-70, not a cloud in the sky, AQI in the single digits. That blue thing way, way out there is the Pacific Ocean.



It was a lot easier when I did it in 2013, for some reason.....
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
That's a short distance. Think an hour would have the same result?
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There's no reason one has to be right after the other.

Use your brains, peoples.
Stop changing the rules. Based upon the video WhyFi shared, my answer was short, sweet and correct. It's still correct, and this is based upon real world experience, not on the love of argumentative behaviUor. (gratuitous U)

Equal fitness of 3 riders, same rider as one of the pair, it doesn't matter. Aero trumps power, in this case.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
There's no reason one has to be right after the other.

Use your brains, peoples.
Atmospheric/weather considerations.

Use your brain, person.
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