Shoes cleat pedal problems
Hello. OK such a rookie question, I know, but I never rode clip in shoes before. Giving it a try cause I hear it should improve performance all around. Having issues with the pedal, cleat combo here. So i have a Shimano PD-a530 pedal, but my shoes (Mavic Ksyrium Ultimate 3 bolt pattern) with the Shimano SM10 Cleat does not seem to be compatible. So Im assuming that I can just change the cleat out? Does anyone know?
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You'll need two hole spd shoes or you'll need to buy adapters for the 3 hole.
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Originally Posted by curbtender
(Post 21777108)
You'll need two hole spd shoes or you'll need to buy adapters for the 3 hole.
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I would get the correct shoe or pedal. Haven't tried the adapter, but the road cleats sit up pretty high if you need to do any walking. What's nice about the two bolt spd is they are recessed. Good luck...
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https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-esmsh...g%2C233&sr=8-6
There's also these, but they are about the worst to walk in. https://www.amazon.com/Wellgo-Cyclin...s%2C230&sr=8-6 |
With adapters being half the price of decent pedals, I'd get pedals that match the shoes you have.
If either the shoes or pedals are new enough to return, then return one or the other. Adapters will just be more screws to chance coming loose. Also, I'd think they'd be more issue to walk with them in the mix. |
Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 21779419)
With adapters being half the price of decent pedals, I'd get pedals that match the shoes you have.
If either the shoes or pedals are new enough to return, then return one or the other. Adapters will just be more screws to chance coming loose. Also, I'd think they'd be more issue to walk with them in the mix. |
Cleats generally come with the pedals you buy. The only real thing you need to consider is how many mounting holes they have. 3 or 2.
3 hole cleats are generally thought of as road bike cleats. 2 hole cleats are generally thought of as mountain bike cleats. Many of us on a road bike use 2 hole mountain bike cleats because they generally will be easier to walk in when you have to walk. I'm sure there'll be plenty of 3 hole road bike aficionados disputing my generalization because of their experience specific to them. I watched a guy get off his bike on the road to take a picture of some cows in a field. He busted his butt as soon as he got both feet on the ground. I stopped to help him and he had on 3 hole cleats. So I know that there are specific instances supporting my generalization. If you want to keep your road bike shoes, then get a pedal that uses three hole cleats. Generally they'll be advertised as road bike pedals. But learn what the different cleat types are so you'll know which are 2 hole and which are 3 hole. SPD and SPD-SL are examples of 2 hole and 3 hole. They aren't compatible. https://completetri.com/cycling-clea...lay-vs-spd-sl/ https://www.modernbike.com/cycling-cleat-types If you have more than one bike, you might consider using the same type cleat for all. Otherwise you'll have to have different shoes for every bike. |
Cleat and pedals for $60.
https://www.backcountry.com/look-cyc...waAisREALw_wcB As stated, new pedals should come with cleats. The different brands have their own cleat designs, so research that before buying. |
Originally Posted by curbtender
(Post 21782030)
Cleat and pedals for $60.
https://www.backcountry.com/look-cyc...waAisREALw_wcB As stated, new pedals should come with cleats. The different brands have their own cleat designs, so research that before buying. |
Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 21782000)
Cleats generally come with the pedals you buy. The only real thing you need to consider is how many mounting holes they have. 3 or 2.
3 hole cleats are generally thought of as road bike cleats. 2 hole cleats are generally thought of as mountain bike cleats. Many of us on a road bike use 2 hole mountain bike cleats because they generally will be easier to walk in when you have to walk. I'm sure there'll be plenty of 3 hole road bike aficionados disputing my generalization because of their experience specific to them. I watched a guy get off his bike on the road to take a picture of some cows in a field. He busted his butt as soon as he got both feet on the ground. I stopped to help him and he had on 3 hole cleats. So I know that there are specific instances supporting my generalization. If you want to keep your road bike shoes, then get a pedal that uses three hole cleats. Generally they'll be advertised as road bike pedals. But learn what the different cleat types are so you'll know which are 2 hole and which are 3 hole. SPD and SPD-SL are examples of 2 hole and 3 hole. They aren't compatible. https://completetri.com/cycling-clea...lay-vs-spd-sl/ https://www.modernbike.com/cycling-cleat-types If you have more than one bike, you might consider using the same type cleat for all. Otherwise you'll have to have different shoes for every bike. |
Originally Posted by oleg232000
(Post 21782119)
So will my SPD-SL clear work on this pedal?
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Originally Posted by oleg232000
(Post 21782119)
So will my SPD-SL clear work on this pedal?
Includes Keo Grey cleats with mid-range float But if you want to use a Shimano SPD-SL cleat, why not buy a Shimano SPD-SL pedal? They make them in every price range. |
Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 21782153)
No. Shimano and Look 3-bolt cleats look similar but they are not interchangeable. If you want to get the pedals that fit the cleats already on your shoes, I think your cheapest option is these: https://www.rei.com/product/161411/s...-spd-sl-pedals
Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 21782180)
The pedals include the cleats that work with them.
Look/Keo cleats are 3 hole cleats. If your shoes are 3 hole, you should be good. Just swap the SPD-SL you have on them for the Look/Kea that comes with the pedal. But if you want to use a Shimano SPD-SL cleat, why not buy a Shimano SPD-SL pedal? They make them in every price range. |
Originally Posted by oleg232000
(Post 21782234)
Yeah looking at this now.
Yep I get in now. The cleat will fit my shoe, but necessarily an SPD-SL pedal but rather its own Look pedal system. But yeah, to make things more integrated, Im looking for SPD-SL pedals now. |
So i have local sale pending for a pair of Dura Ace 7401 pedals. I believe that these work with SPD-SL cleats, can anyone confirm?
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Originally Posted by oleg232000
(Post 21782582)
So i have local sale pending for a pair of Dura Ace 7401 pedals. I believe that these work with SPD-SL cleats, can anyone confirm?
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Originally Posted by alcjphil
(Post 21782612)
No. they do not. They use a different 3 bolt cleat that predates SPD SL
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Don't buy pedals that don't come with cleats. What are you saving buying a used pedal? Do you have confidence in your ability to disassemble, clean and grease the bearings? And when the cleat retention part is worn out, it's worn out.
Maybe there are people out there that sell used pedals in good shape, but I don't change pedals until they are ready for the trash bin. |
Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 21782717)
Don't buy pedals that don't come with cleats. What are you saving buying a used pedal? Do you have confidence in your ability to disassemble, clean and grease the bearings? And when the cleat retention part is worn out, it's worn out.
Maybe there are people out there that sell used pedals in good shape, but I don't change pedals until they are ready for the trash bin. |
Premium stuff isn't going to be that much better with respect to clipping in. What premium stuff gets you is fewer grams to haul with you for the distance you ride.
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Personally, I'd rather have a new pair of R540 pedals than a pair of 30 year old DA's.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 21782738)
Premium stuff isn't going to be that much better with respect to clipping in. What premium stuff gets you is fewer grams to haul with you for the distance you ride.
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If you are worried about cleat wear, buy some rubber covers. The cleats will wear out either way. As far as ease getting into them, until you've fallen a few times, I'd be more concerned on getting out.
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Originally Posted by curbtender
(Post 21782832)
If you are worried about cleat wear, buy some rubber covers. The cleats will wear out either way. As far as ease getting into them, until you've fallen a few times, I'd be more concerned on getting out.
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