ls01

I met a fellow Michigander on here years back who talked me into a group ride, then joining the club he belonged too.

MoAlpha

Buy one street inland now and you'll be all set.

ls01

yep, and I can leave winter there on the mountain.

ls01

The grand kid thing is the sticky wicket in my plan. I have 3. Maybe I can figure out a way to snowbird for winters.
The plan is 5 years 6 if I have to, and the co. Let's me.

big john

I don't think I want to know how you know that.

ls01

I literally dug ditches for the first 6 years I was at this co. Well holes on top of gas mains to make repairs, same thing. It pays good. But I wish I would have listened to your mom. Lol.
My dad was Die maker. When there was work, it was 7 days a week. I didn't see a lot of him as a yute.

BillyD

That is to be expected. When you think about the number of members who use the forum anonymity to be rude, insulting or downright dicks it's not surprising a fair percentage of people get turned off and leave.

ls01

Tmi

Velo Vol 

Don't you live in MI? What is there to cling to?

big john

As screwed up as LA is, I would stay here on the outskirts if it wasn't so expensive. I want to move somewhere cheaper but Mrs John seems stuck. If my landlord or his heirs kick us out, I don't know where we would go. 1 bedroom apartments in decent neighborhoods are $2300.

Still, there is year-round riding and a huge variety of terrain. A lot of groups/clubs to ride with and most of my friends are here. I try to avoid going over the hill toward LA proper and all of the beach communities are overcrowded and traffic is a mess everywhere.
Since covid a lot of traffic has freed up so people drive extremely fast and recklessly all over. It's as if they are trying to make up for all the years of stop and go. It's a different kind of awful.

ls01

Well I guess I'll have to have a talk with my daughter, she keeps moving north bruuuhh, ....thats the wrong direction!
not going there. My sil's people are in the u.p. That's nuts. No economy and colder longer winters.

phrantic09

Our other “house” is walking distance from the ocean, it’s nice because it never really gets too cold in the winter (almost never below 15) or too hot in the summer (almost never above 90). The trade off is that when Nor’easters hit, we get significant snowfall and wind. It’s pretty awesome to go down to the causeway after a storm and see the 7 foot diameter boulders in the middle of the road from the storm surge.

ls01

Family, friends, that's about it. 5 months of the year I hate it.

phrantic09

Once my daughters are in college , we plan to move south. Probably SC or inland VA. Someplace warm enough that snowfall hardly ever happens.

Velo Vol 

I can't speak as to the 6 a.m. farm crew. Most of the year it's dark at 6 a.m. so I wouldn't ride then. No one would be looking out for cyclists at that hour. Some drivers would be half asleep.

The obvious downside of 5 p.m. is there's a lot more drivers, so better odds of encountering a bad one. And people may be more frustrated at the traffic.

Velo Vol 

It's no Knoxville, but it's scenic. All the nearby climbing one could want.

big john

That's what happened with the lady I mentioned. She became very popular here from her posts and her ride organizing. I don't know why certain men felt like they should harass her like they did, calling her fat and making all manner of sexual comments, but it drove her away. I called out one of them but he never responded to me.

It's a shame because she is a good person and was hurt and even a little frightened by those idiots. Mostly the one guy but one of his friends would add to the crap sometimes.

ls01

I've been to Ca. A few times when I traveled for work. And on vacations there. I love Ca. I spent a month riding my bike all over.. Hell I even enjoyed Bakersfield! I met and rode with a few forum members. Umd, Joel. I slept on Joel's couch for a week when I was there. I rode all over near Santa barbara/Carpinteria. Did the Hollywood sign climb. The mountains. It is truly awesome. Maybe some day again..
But, I could never afford to live there. Maybe if I hit the lottery...a big one. Then I would only have to work part time...

big john

I used to see umd when we had forum rides. Way too fast on the climbs for me. He has 2 kids now and no longer races but he still does fast club rides.
Don't think I know Joel, is that his username?

Mojo31

California has some insane money. We took a trip to Carmel one year and stayed at a place in Carmel Valley. At dinner one night, we met a couple who summered in Carmel Valley to get away from the fog that often surrounds their other house on 17 Mile Drive in Pebble Beach. Who has two houses less than 20 miles apart???

LesterOfPuppets

Oh no, another Basso in my size and price range.

ls01

yes, he's in the Fresno area. (I think, near folsom? It's been 12 years)
I used to follow umd on strava but did a purge last year. Hes a good guy. He gave me some nice ride routes to follow. and took me out on one. Nice of him to wait for this fat flatlander, lol.
I stayed with Joel the first week of a month long work tour of CA. The job was only 2 hours a day ish then time to ride. I did that for an entire month and then blew 10 days of vacation on the coast. Best month of the 6 years I was with that co.

Mojo31

How will you ever live with yourself .........





































If you don't?

ls01

Well. If you have to askk..... your probably sane..

ls01

Doooooo. Eeeeeeeeertttt!