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Old 03-19-21, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
I noticed that too, and have started to leave the cellophane on after patch application.
Yeah, the 0.25 grams rotating weight is a bummer, but I always leave it on.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I do. I use rema fluid and rema patches, allow a good 5-10 minutes for "cement" fluid to dry. I have discovered that if I use the tool (I forget its name) to push patch on and leave cellophane tape on, my success rate is about 80-85%. However if I don't use the tool and peel back the cellophane we are looking at 50%.

edit: tool is a stitcher

Ah. I haven't used (or ever seen!) a tool like that, but I do use a beer/wine bottle or similar as a rolling pin after applying the patch. I've always taken the film off, too - sometimes one edge of a patch will threaten to come up with it, but I'll just peel from another angle and it's fine.
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I think the patch failure is a conspiracy to get us to go tubeless.

Next thing you know, they will be sabotaging rim brake pads to get us to move over to disc brakes.

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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Ah. I haven't used (or ever seen!) a tool like that, but I do use a beer/wine bottle or similar as a rolling pin after applying the patch. I've always taken the film off, too - sometimes one edge of a patch will threaten to come up with it, but I'll just peel from another angle and it's fine.
Pro tip: if you really want the cellophane off, fold the patch so the cellophane splits in the middle. Removing it from the center rather than the edges seems to work better. That said, I still leave it on these days.
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I really need to organize my bike stuff, so I know which tubes are still good. The other day I was putting new tires on those RX100/Trek Sonic wheels I got for the Cannondale and spent entirely too much time carefully getting the tube and tire onto the rim only to find 5 minutes later that the tire was flat as flat can be.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Pro tip: if you really want the cellophane off, fold the patch so the cellophane splits in the middle. Removing it from the center rather than the edges seems to work better. That said, I still leave it on these days.
Pffft - I ain't changin' nuthin' that has me batting 1.000
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Originally Posted by datlas
I think the patch failure is a conspiracy to get us to go tubeless.

Next thing you know, they will be sabotaging rim brake pads to get us to move over to disc brakes.

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Meh, Im already half tubeless.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Ah. I haven't used (or ever seen!) a tool like that, but I do use a beer/wine bottle or similar as a rolling pin after applying the patch. I've always taken the film off, too - sometimes one edge of a patch will threaten to come up with it, but I'll just peel from another angle and it's fine.
Sometimes I'll throw it in the bench vise, not torquing it much, for a minute if I'm near one while patching.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Meh, Im already half tubeless.
Which half? Front or rear??

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Originally Posted by datlas
Which half? Front or rear??

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I have tubeless sealant in some of my tubes. Does that count as half tubeless?
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Originally Posted by datlas
Which half? Front or rear??

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Both, one bike.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Meh, Im already half tubeless.
Whoa, oh - you're halfway there. Whoa, oh! Livin' on a prayer (half of the time)!
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
For those having patch failures, are you letting the contact cement have plenty of time to dry before applying the patch? They need a good 5+ minutes.
Aw hell no, ain't nobody got no time for that!
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Pffft - I ain't changin' nuthin' that has me batting 1.000
Something I learned from coaching youth softball...Don't coach a .400 hitter into a .200 hitter

Something I learned from working on bikes...If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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Hey, with the kind of failure rate that you're talking about, I don't want to take anything for granted!

I patched my commuter tires, and didn't sweat it. Keeping new tubes for good, meaning out in the middle of nowhere, just made sense.
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Something I learned from coaching youth softball...Don't coach a .400 hitter into a .200 hitter

Something I learned from working on bikes...If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.

Indeed. There were shops out there that had the reputation... If your car isn't broken, they can fix that.
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Indeed. There were shops out there that had the reputation... If your car isn't broken, they can fix that.
I have friends who do that with relationships.
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Aw hell no, ain't nobody got no time for that!
In the words of the immortal Wham!, "if you're gonna do it, do it right!"
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I have friends who do that with relationships.
Yeah man.
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Originally Posted by big john
Or, you can use a cassette cracker. I also made chain whips before by drilling holes in strap iron and attaching pieces of an old chain.
I have two home made chainwhips. In fact, since I made them in the 80s, they probably have 7speed chain on them. I probably should update them but they seem to work fine.
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In the words of the immortal Wham!, "if you're gonna do it, do it right!"
Hot Chip: Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it now.


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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
I have two home made chainwhips. In fact, since I made them in the 80s, they probably have 7speed chain on them. I probably should update them but they seem to work fine.
I have a pair that my dad made. Pretty sure 6-speed was the standard at the time. They still work just fine.
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Oral Roberts blew my bracket!!!
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Day started off great - had a casual ride of about 20 miles along the river. Then, as we were heading back to the shop to drop off the bikes, and my wife crashed while almost stopped. I didn't see it, and some guy chased me down to tell me. Fell onto her left elbow, and may have some sort of fracture. 😪

But, I found out how to properly use bottle cages so the day was not a total loss.

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Oral Roberts blew my bracket!!!
Mine too.
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