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Road Cycling It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle. -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 03-30-21, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I think that this is my biggest problem with climbing - it just feels neverendingly slow in comparison to what I'm used to given the effort.
When that 16 % grades bogs you down to 5mph in 90 degree heat it feels really slow
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
I saw an ID4 at the dealership when my car was being serviced. Looks nice but again, this Passat has left a bad taste in my mouth regarding build quality. I love the Atlas but would never buy one because of my experience with this car.
Will be interesting to see how those do. It's been a long time since I've owned a VW - last one was an '84 Sirocco. Loved that car until my ex-wife grenaded the transmission (long story, and definitely her dumbass fault).

Since have owned a number of Audis and Porsches which as you know are VAG products. Haven't had any problems with any of them, but never keep them past their expiration date (warranty).

A friend of mine just got rid of an Atlas. He really liked it and had no problems.

I'd consider another look. Might have just been a bad Passat.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I suppose that it's going to hurt either way (except for waifs like datlas and MoAlpha ) and I do have the tendency to over-cook myself on climbs if I'm fresh. One of these days, I'll get down to 170 and climb like a... like a... like a sprinter.
Hope you're not referring to this type of Sprinter:

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Originally Posted by phrantic09
When that 16 % grades bogs you down to 5mph in 90 degree heat it feels really slow
Ha. I don't have the gearing to get up a 16% grade unless it's short enough to bludgeon it within 60sec.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
century...mostly MUP
Been there, done that, and don't want to do it ever again
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Hope you're not referring to this type of Sprinter:
Nah - that'll get up hills in much better form than me.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Ha. I don't have the gearing to get up a 16% grade unless it's short enough to bludgeon it within 60sec.
The 16% parts are. Theres one hill here nearby that gets to 25% for a few hundred feet (total, not vertical) but still is like a 10 average.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Will be interesting to see how those do. It's been a long time since I've owned a VW - last one was an '84 Sirocco. Loved that car until my ex-wife grenaded the transmission (long story, and definitely her dumbass fault).

Since have owned a number of Audis and Porsches which as you know are VAG products. Haven't had any problems with any of them, but never keep them past their expiration date (warranty).

A friend of mine just got rid of an Atlas. He really liked it and had no problems.

I'd consider another look. Might have just been a bad Passat.
Maybe, stock brakes always sucked and produced tons of dust, always had a rattle in the dash and other little nagging things. Saturday the belly pan fell off when we were going 80 down the highway (service tech didnt tighten it properly). I know thats not the car, but Im just turned off
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
that's always a good plan.
I took a nice nap after my morning call.

When Im touring I love to inflate the mattress, find a shady spot in camp and nap. Bonus if there is a nice breeze. Usually only happens on short and rest days.
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My daughter's old softball gear backpack has been repurposed. It works tremendously well for days when I'm riding after work...
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
Maybe, stock brakes always sucked and produced tons of dust, always had a rattle in the dash and other little nagging things. Saturday the belly pan fell off when we were going 80 down the highway (service tech didnt tighten it properly). I know thats not the car, but Im just turned off
I had a 1986 GTI that I absolutely loved, but it did have an issue or two - fuel pumps. While the GTI was still largely problem free, we got a 1991 Passat, which had a repeated problem with the HVAC sub-panel on the dashboard. That piece had a tendency to short out internally leaving you with no fan, no heat, no A/C. I think, in the 11 years we owned it, we replaced that piece twice. And the fuel pumps, which did the same thing the ones in the GTI did - main pump in the tank gives out, and the transfer pump up front later gives out from trying to make up for it.

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Originally Posted by phrantic09
Maybe, stock brakes always sucked and produced tons of dust, always had a rattle in the dash and other little nagging things. Saturday the belly pan fell off when we were going 80 down the highway (service tech didn’t tighten it properly). I know that’s not the car, but I’m just turned off
I get it. The brake dust is a problem with any car using more performance oriented pads, but it's an easy fix to swap out low dust pads.

I hate the dust. I thought I died and went to heaven when I bought a car with ceramic brakes one time.

Then sold it and bought a car without. Go figure. My current car has three things that I once swore I would never buy again: iron brake rotors, mesh style wheels that are a PITA to clean, and fake exhaust tips.

Hate rattles as well, but after owning Jeeps for the last 10 years, anything else seems really quiet.

By the way, there is nothing wrong with trying something different!
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My mother got hit pretty hard the two days after her second Pfizer dose.

3 weeks until I find out how bad Moderna part two is for me.
You're young, so it's somewhat more likely to be harsh. I was sick as a dog.

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Both the Mrs and I had Moderna. She gets number 2 tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Ha. I don't have the gearing to get up a 16% grade unless it's short enough to bludgeon it within 60sec.
This is an approach I'm very familiar with.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I think that this is my biggest problem with climbing - it just feels neverendingly slow in comparison to what I'm used to given the effort.
Depends on the grade.
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I’m sure not as slow feeling as for us fat guys
It's not. :

Actually, when you're Medicare years old, there are quite a few fat(ish) guys who climb faster, at least on the shorter grades.
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This is an approach I'm very familiar with.
I call it the fat man's gambit - will I run out of gas before I run out of hill?
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
It's not. :
You know, I hear tell of some exclusive (small) group rides happening in VA soon.


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You know, I hear tell of some exclusive (small) group rides happening in VA soon.


You want a piece of me?
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
You want a piece of me?
Why only a piece?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I call it the fat man's gambit - will I run out of gas before I run out of hill?
DING! Nailed it.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
You want a piece of me?
This reminds me of the amusing, bewildering, and ultimately frustrating preconceived notions of my non-cycling friends whenever I invite them to get off of their asses and go for a ride - they almost always assume that I'm challenging them to race. Like... wtf? Do y'all experience this, too? I just don't get it.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
This reminds me of the amusing, bewildering, and ultimately frustrating preconceived notions of my non-cycling friends whenever I invite them to get off of their asses and go for a ride - they almost always assume that I'm challenging them to race. Like... wtf? Do y'all experience this, too? I just don't get it.
No, I can't say I experience that, but I don't often ask my non-cycling friends to go riding.
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No, I can't say I experience that, but I don't often ask my non-cycling friends to go riding.
I don't do it out of the blue, either - it's usually after they've expressed some interest or even after they've started started riding on their own. I had one guy tell me about how he felt great since he started riding, how there was some hill that he liked to time himself on, etc, etc, and I'm like, "that's awesome, Steve! We should get together for a ride some time."

"Oh. No. I mean - you'd kill me."

"Uh, what?"

"I'm not going to race you - I'd never be able to keep up."

"What? Who said anything about a race? I just want to hang out and ride bikes."

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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I call it the fat man's gambit - will I run out of gas before I run out of hill?
Almost certainly.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I don't do it out of the blue, either - it's usually after they've expressed some interest or even after they've started started riding on their own. I had one guy tell me about how he felt great since he started riding, how there was some hill that he liked to time himself on, etc, etc, and I'm like, "that's awesome, Steve! We should get together for a ride some time."

"Oh. No. I mean - you'd kill me."

"Uh, what?"

"I'm not going to race you - I'd never be able to keep up."

"What? Who said anything about a race? I just want to hang out and ride bikes."

Nah, they take a long look at me and say, "sure you'll be okay?"

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