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Old 01-14-21, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Uh, thanks.

Has anyone ever ridden a Shimano drivetrain with the chain backwards? I am guessing the symptoms I described are typical for that mistake.
I assume that you mean that the writing is on the NDS side of the chain? I haven't done that one...
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Originally Posted by datlas
More drama. Or possibly comedy.

I had an insight into why my drivetrain is finicky as I woke up early this morning. I could not eyeball the cause until I left for work. But I am pretty sure I know what's wrong.

It's almost too embarrassing to admit, but if you can't admit your bone-headed idiot mechanic moves in here, where CAN you?

Yes, my mechanic is such a moron, he did the all time most AMATEUR move when putting on a new chain.

Chain is on backwards.

I will have to fix it and take it for a test ride to confirm that's the problem, but I am pretty sure that explains the problem.
what is this...back, ward.. that you speak of? I am unfamiliar with this. Is this some new form of devilry?
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Originally Posted by datlas
Uh, thanks.

Has anyone ever ridden a Shimano drivetrain with the chain backwards? I am guessing the symptoms I described are typical for that mistake.
I never knew they were direcional...
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I'm sure that it's pretty low since he's recovering from CV19 and doesn't even have the breath or strength to lift. He may have returned to the gym now, but a week ago, he still couldn't. I don't know when his next meet is but I bet that he's way behind on his training program now
Awww, sorry. Glad he's doing okay.
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My family is so slow to get moving in the morning that getting out on a decent ride is pretty easy on my days off. I can usually knock out 40-50 miles before anyone is out of their pajamas. That they waste so much time in the morning is actually a source of frustration for me, so riding is a double-win. That said, I feel guilty about back-to-back metrics on Sat/Sun, so I usually do a long ride on one of those days (keeping the other to 40-50) in addition to a longer ride on Wed.

Actually, now that I think about it, covid increased my mileage in another way - group rides on Wed are typically in the 40-50 range whereas striking out on my own for 62-100 was not unusual last year.
I generally prefer to be home around 7:15 or so when the kids are here. Iím up early enough most days that it would allow me about 30, but I spend too much time drinking coffee and reading the NYT.

The Mrs. has no issue getting the girls set while Iím out, but I always feel sort of guilty if Iím not there since theyíre not her kids. Itís silly though, she really enjoys the time with them.

Regardless, my previous goal was 100 a week, I want at least 150 this year. Weíll see.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Has anyone ever ridden a Shimano drivetrain with the chain backwards?
wut
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Old 01-14-21, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Radio Tower is painful. I did it once. No plans to repeat.
Thereís a series of climbs here called the three sisters that is fairly brutal, climb 1 rises 1200 feet over about 2.3 miles, climb 2 is 530 over 1.2 and the third is 635 over 2. It doesnít sound bad from an average grade perspective, but the second and third climbs both have sections with a grade over 24%. I did it once on a 90 degree day and probably wonít ever do it again considering how miserable it was.
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Originally Posted by ls01
I never knew they were direcional...
Shimano chains are indeed directional, I think that started with 10 speed but others can chime in.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I assume that you mean that the writing is on the NDS side of the chain? I haven't done that one...
Yeah. Totally amateur move, I know. Sad.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Yeah. Totally amateur move, I know. Sad.
I came really close to doing that when I took the SLT to 11.

Since 11s chains are so expensive I wanted to make sure I got the chain length right (or at least not too short) so I actually read the instructions and saw the comment about it being directional.

I'm using a master link with mine though, so not a huge deal.

I could see how that would affect shifting, but as far as the skipping goes IDK.
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Old 01-14-21, 07:48 AM
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I suppose a silver lining to 100% mask mandates is that my annual cold sore isn't out and about for everyone to see

I think this one's going to be a doozy, though
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Originally Posted by datlas
Uh, thanks.

Has anyone ever ridden a Shimano drivetrain with the chain backwards? I am guessing the symptoms I described are typical for that mistake.
Let me tell you after this weekend. First time replacing the chain, so I was thinking I should get out the most simplistic error out of the way

I still donít know what tool to use to break he connecting pin :confused:

I may prove the term ďhe who has himself as a bike mechanic has a fool for a client.Ē
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Is today the day?
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Originally Posted by kissTheApex

I still donít know what tool to use to break he connecting pin :confused:
Man Iím too set on my old ways. Still (trying) to use the bb markup shorthands from the early aughties.
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I did Innsbruck tonight, with the Trainer Difficulty set to 100%, so the climb felt... well, pretty much like a 7.4 km climb with a 6% average grade would feel. I'm glad I used the Bianchi, with it's 34x27 low gear. I ended up standing on the pedals pretty much any time the grade went to 10% or higher.

Next stage is supposed to be Big Climbs, including Alpe du Zwift. I haven't decided whether I want to do that, but set trainer difficulty at maybe 50-75%. Or I might do the 'C' ride, which does the Watopia Mountain Route, which has the "Epic KOM", which is less arduous than the climb I just did, but also adds the Radio Tower climb, which is apparently .7 miles of 13.7 % Yikes. Hmmmmmm.....
At least you can't fall over on the bike if you totally run out of steam.
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I suppose a silver lining to 100% mask mandates is that my annual cold sore isn't out and about for everyone to see

I think this one's going to be a doozy, though
I like the fact that I donít have to shave as often. Iíve reduced the frequency from 2x/wk to 1x/wk ... and that 1x is often only because the itching is driving me crazy.
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Originally Posted by kissTheApex
Let me tell you after this weekend. First time replacing the chain, so I was thinking I should get out the most simplistic error out of the way

I still donít know what tool to use to break he connecting pin :confused:

I may prove the term ďhe who has himself as a bike mechanic has a fool for a client.Ē
Here you go:
Park Tool Compact Chain Tool | REI Co-op

Or you can go more expensive:
Amazon.com : Park Tool CT-3.2 Chain Tool : Bike Hand Tools : Sports & Outdoors
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I have a chain tool.

I was talking about this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

The interwebs say I should use regular pliers and it will snap like a twig, but Iím ascared.

good thing I have three of the connecting pins to try and destroy and resort to the Shimano quick-link, which I wanted to save for roadside emergencies.
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I have a couple of chain breakers in my personal tool box.



The shop uses CT-3.2s
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Originally Posted by kissTheApex
I have a chain tool.

I was talking about this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

The interwebs say I should use regular pliers and it will snap like a twig, but I’m ascared.

good thing I have three of the connecting pins to try and destroy and resort to the Shimano quick-link, which I wanted to save for roadside emergencies.
Push it in with a chain tool, and then snap off the excess with a pair of needle nose pliers.

Color me stupid, but is there a reason to not use a quick link? The new Shimano chains actually come with them now.
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Push it in with a chain tool, and then snap off the excess with a pair of needle nose pliers.

Color me stupid, but is there a reason to not use a quick link?
No reason at all. I have both the pins and the quick-link. I just wanted to keep the quick-link in the saddle bag in the 1 in a billion chance that my guads ever developed beyond sticks and snapped a chain out on a ride.
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There are a lot of bad things happening in the world, but I think that we can all band together in denouncing this heinous act -

https://imgur.com/a/MH9McIw

I assume that we still can't post links to redd it, but you can search for the post if you need to do some hate-reading today - "My husband believes running pizza under water to cool it down is acceptable"
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Originally Posted by kissTheApex
I have a chain tool.

I was talking about this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

The interwebs say I should use regular pliers and it will snap like a twig, but Iím ascared.

good thing I have three of the connecting pins to try and destroy and resort to the Shimano quick-link, which I wanted to save for roadside emergencies.
That's right. The pointy bit is a guide. Once the pin itself is seated, snap off the quide. Pliers, or (what I usually do) use the chain breaker.
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Originally Posted by kissTheApex
No reason at all. I have both the pins and the quick-link. I just wanted to keep the quick-link in the saddle bag in the 1 in a billion chance that my guads ever developed beyond sticks and snapped a chain out on a ride.
Buy another quick link.
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