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Bicycling Magazine - Too Much and Too little?

Old 07-16-05, 09:15 PM
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Bicycling Magazine - Too Much and Too little?

Do you believe the art and photography are too much in Bicycling magazine? Do you think the gear reviews and technical articles to be cutesy, juvenile, and watered down?

The subscription price is right on the magazine. I like that. However, all I see in it is a bunch of fluff and no substance. I seems like the technical stuff is geared to people with a five minute attention span. The technical is short to begin with but is minuscule in contrast to the articles five pages long on subjects like the first woman to ride across the US (in the late 1800's!) and the experience of cycling in Cuba (mostly photography). Both seem more appropriate in National Geographic. For me to get more meat, I have to go to Road or Cycle Sport, which seem to be geared more toward the pro or those who follow pro events. Also, I like mountain bikes but they aren't for me. Why should I share a magazine with them? The result is that I end up with 7 pages out of 120 in Bicycling magazine that I care to read.

Am I the only one that feels like Bicycling magazine does not meet their needs?
Are there other magazines geared toward the serious non-pro cyclist that I am unaware of?
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Bicycling magazine along with many other US magazines have gone down the crapper in the past few years. Do what i've done, go UK, their magazines are top notch, tons of articles, reviews, training tips, etc... They cost a little more but I personally think it's completely worth the extra cash.

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Originally Posted by DRLski
Bicycling magazine along with many other US magazines have gone down the crapper in the past few years. Do what i've done, go UK, their magazines are top notch, tons of articles, reviews, training tips, etc... They cost a little more but I personally think it's completely worth the extra cash.

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What are the names of those magazines?
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Originally Posted by texascyclist
Are there other magazines geared toward the serious non-pro cyclist that I am unaware of?
If there are, please let me know. They lost my subscription with the sex issue. As a parent, not something I would like for my child to find in the mailbox. For that matter, I want a bike mag to read about cycling, period.
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Let's hope the chaps at Rodedale (the publishers) read these forums, as that I am confident that this thread might get a bit of run with a consistent theme throughout.

I will let my subscription wither away and die at the close of this cycle... Like you, there's just not enough relevant content and what is there is a bit sophmoric. It kind of reminds me of reading the science articles in Newsweek or Time (many apologies to those who read these) in that they are penned to accomodate the masses and watered down accordingly.

I am not a marketing guy - and I am certain that Rodedale folks know what population they are trying to cater to - but you would assume that a person interested enough in a unique sport like cycling (unique in this country) would want a bit more of the technical information... but, I could be naive here - we do live in a society where we have pathologized attention (ADD), afterall.
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Well, if you like exploring and mountain bike etc...there's Singletrack, a GREAT magazine that has caught my eye for a few months now, they have a ton of great articles of mountain biking adventures that they take around the UK and good reviews etc.

For road biking I'm a HUGE fan of Cycling Plus, they have indepth training articles, detailed reviews, interviews, etc.

You an also get 220 Triathlon, it's geared more towards Triathlete but they usually have some really good articles for cyclists as well.

I think the only US magazine out there that's worth anything anymore is Dirtrag and even that is beginning to get a little crammed with ads but it hasn't gotten nearly as bad as some of the other magazines.
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I subscribed to Bicycling back in February and cancelled in April....their writing is, at best, sop****ric, and the overall content is not much better. I like Velo News...Cycle Sport America and Cycling+ (British mag)...they give me alot more for my money...IMHO.
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Cycle Sport is a great magazine that I subscribe to but it is expensive.

Bicycling magazine is kind of weird - they occasional have very interesting articles (like the one on Pantani and recently on Davis Phinney). But there is a lot of really dumb stuff like Biketown. . .(who care that they gave some Microsoft millionaires and middle aged women bikes. . ?).
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[QUOTE=acrafton]Cycle Sport is a great magazine that I subscribe to but it is expensive.

Bicycling magazine is kind of weird - they occasional have very interesting articles (like the one on Pantani and recently on Davis Phinney). But there is a lot of really dumb stuff like Biketown. . .(who care that they gave some Microsoft millionaires and middle aged women bikes. . ?).[/QUOTE
Oh! Oh! I sense I slur here! Do you think middle aged (I'm 48) women don't bike????
I just completed the STP if that counts.
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CyclingPlus is expensive, but pretty good.
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Cylesport america. I did some looking qand it seemed like the best for the pirce. I wanted another one but it was like 12 (or maybe 24) for 150$ and my mom was like ummmm NO
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cyclesport usa and procycling are my favorite, velosnooze is okay but they cover too much stuff I'm not interested in (mtb, cyclocross, etc)
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Originally Posted by baj32161
I subscribed to Bicycling back in February and cancelled in April....their writing is, at best, sop****ric, and the overall content is not much better. I like Velo News...Cycle Sport America and Cycling+ (British mag)...they give me alot more for my money...IMHO.
I was just looking at the Cycling Plus website and their reviews seem to have a good amount of information.

What these guys at Bicycling don't understand is that people in the sport have a huge hunger for information to improve their performance and drool over gear. That is why forums like this are so popular. People who read bike mags want to dig into this stuff. They are not casual readers and are not very interested in articles where entertainment is the focus.
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Bicycling magazine has went down the crapper. It's become 90% advertisements, little to no content, reviews that are always positive, and juvenile writings. During the '80s and early '90s it was a much better magazine.

I'll be subscribing to Cycling+ as it's still decent.
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Wish there was a roadie's version of Dirt Rag, one of the best mountain biking mags out there.

A perfect mix of gear reviews, alt bike culture, and advocacy articles.
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I think Bicycling has a review generator program. It looks up the bike on the companies web page and gets some stats then write a review.

Paragraph one, banter about price, materials in frame, manufactors reputation.

Paragraph two, spit out some nonsense about the handling, like, "smooth, but not plush" "We pointed the nose at the apex of a reduced-radius apex arc and it held its line with shocking accuracy.

Paragraph three, cap off the review by glancing over the componets spec and mentioning the more expensive pieces, while telling you the glaring weakness, "The manufacturer saved some cash by specing no name hubs"
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
cyclesport usa and procycling are my favorite, velosnooze is okay but they cover too much stuff I'm not interested in (mtb, cyclocross, etc)
thats waht it was, procycling is likke 150$!
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Bicycling is a Rodale publication. A number of years ago, Rodale came up with a formula for all its mags that emphasized short, cutesy with lots of pictures. Rodale's biggest seller (I think) is Organic Gardening which I took for years and years, but I dropped it a while back because I wasn't learning anything from it. It did not take me long to drop Bicycling either. It did not take long to find out that nothing new was coming in the magazaine. So with people dropping subscriptions, why aren't they going broke? The new subscriptions outnumber the drop outs. There are always new people getting into cycling, so they take Bicycling for a couple of years and then move on.

I've seen the same thing happen to Yoga Journal. It started out as the technical publication of the California Yoga Teachers Association. About 8 years ago, the CYTA sold the mag sold it to its attorney, I think, who visualized YG as a for-profit publication. Then the yoga "boom" hit and YG hit the supermarkets drugstores. It had to dumb-down and get repetitive because it needs to recruit new subscribers every month. Because most of those who practice yoga are women, it became a women's magazine. Because I am a yoga teacher, I still read it, but as a guy I really don't like all those articles about organic beauty secrets.

Even though I do not race, I really like Velonews because it still has integrity and inspires me.
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Bicyclist magazine, now defunct was very good in its day. as soon as bicycling magazine gets rid of 'style man' i'll resubscribe.
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Does anyone receive this magazine - any good?

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Originally Posted by texascyclist
Do you think the gear reviews and technical articles to be cutesy, juvenile, and watered down? all I see in it is a bunch of fluff and no substance.
I feel like I just ate a huge air Twinkie when I read Bicycling....
It was sweet and about 1500 calories but Im still hungry.
Ride, East Coast Bike Culture and Dirt Rag are the only two
American bags I buy....well sometimes Velo-News too...
But, yeah.....It seems watered down to the most neophyte
noobs. They have been around awhile and have probably
come to a formula that sells and feeds their families too so
that is why it is what it is.
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Cycle Sport has great photography. They are higher dollar and focus almost all on racing but they make Bicycling look like a pamphlet, which it pretty much is. I'm broke and just glance over them at books-a-million. Bicycling take about 3 seconds to figure out it is still junk. Full of silly top ten list and trying too hard to be witty. Their coverage of the sport seems to come down to Lance is great cause uh, we read it somewhere? and "great legs of cycling" from a while back.

Anyone seen the motorcycle magazines these days? I subscribe to Cycle World. It really should be called Chopper World. Stupid Editor "Dave Edwards" can't figure out why a Chopped Triumph is only a few hundred on Ebay. Cause it's junk dude? Couple of month back the whole issue was motorcycles that could never be practically rode up your driveway. With them it's all about sales and jump on the OCC bandwagon of morons but I do not know what's Bicycling's problem.

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Originally Posted by Deep_South
Anyone seen the motorcycle magazines these days?

I wish there was a road bicycle mag written in the exact style of '98-'00 era
Performance Bikes . Now that would be some good stuff !!
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I get Bicycling and like it for what it is. I'm not reading it for the in depth technical analysis, but I do like the cycling trips and the overview gear reviews, again for what they are. I believe their goal is to spur interest in the sport. And, yes get the attention of the JSP, couch spud and get them riding, hence Bike Town.

If you want to complain send your concerns to Steve Madden, Editor-in-Chief, he answers his e-mail.
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