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WhyFi 08-20-22 06:22 AM

Excel has Vittoria Corsa Next 2-packs on sale for $105 - that's a pretty good price on a new tire. Also with noting that these are up to the new spec, including hookless. I've been waiting on these for a while - tempted to grab some even though I've got less than 100 miles on the Pirelli that I just mounted :D

https://www.excelsports.com/vittoria...ad-tire-2-pack

Caliwild 08-20-22 09:15 AM

Enve SES tires
 
Got these on a new road bike and so far they seem just as nice as my Continental GP5000S TR's...

https://www.enve.com/product/ses-road-tire/

noodle soup 08-20-22 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22616666)
Excel has Vittoria Corsa Next 2-packs on sale for $105 - that's a pretty good price on a new tire. Also with noting that these are up to the new spec, including hookless. I've been waiting on these for a while - tempted to grab some even though I've got less than 100 miles on the Pirelli that I just mounted :D

https://www.excelsports.com/vittoria...ad-tire-2-pack

I came here to see if you had an opinion on these tires, after getting the same email. I'm finally out of my tire back stock, and I haven't kept up with road tires/components for a couple years.

WhyFi 08-20-22 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 22616845)
I came here to see if you had an opinion on these tires, after getting the same email. I'm finally out of my tire back stock, and I haven't kept up with road tires/components for a couple years.

Yeah, these are brand spankin' new, so not much user feedback out there yet.

mawn 08-22-22 07:48 PM

Pirelli Cinturato 100%

robbyville 08-22-22 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22616935)
Yeah, these are brand spankin' new, so not much user feedback out there yet.

Iíd be keen on trying but my friendly LBS owner just brought in a bunch of 28mm New Conti 5000s TR tires and he always treats me well price wise and is always there for me. I think Iím going to rotate the new Specialized S works tires that I got a couple months ago into my Vintage bike which is also set up with (modern) alloy tubeless wheels and check out the new Contis. Other than how crazy they were To install I really liked the previous version.

3rdcoast 08-23-22 07:30 PM

Pirelli P Zero 30mm on Zip Firecrest wheels. 210lbs and ride @ 73 psi, 3200 miles in 2022 and no flats.

NoWhammies 08-23-22 10:22 PM

Looking forward to hearing some reviews/first hand accounts of those SES road tyres. I've never heard of them before.

My previous experience with Pirelli tubeless tyres has not been the greatest, so I am kind of gun shy about giving Pirelli tyres another go. I have a couple Veloflex tyres in my inventory. Once I work my way through those, I will be looking for another set of tyres to try.

noodle soup 08-24-22 06:05 AM

$95 shipped. Never had bad luck with Rubino Pro tires, so here's to hoping these are okay.

https://bikecloset.com/product/vitto...BoCU-kQAvD_BwE

Caliwild 08-24-22 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by NoWhammies (Post 22621448)
Looking forward to hearing some reviews/first hand accounts of those SES road tyres. I've never heard of them before.

My previous experience with Pirelli tubeless tyres has not been the greatest, so I am kind of gun shy about giving Pirelli tyres another go. I have a couple Veloflex tyres in my inventory. Once I work my way through those, I will be looking for another set of tyres to try.

Been riding on these for a couple weeks (the 29's which measure out to 31c on my rims). I actually like them a lot. They feel VERY similar to the Continental GP5000 TR's. They're holding air great, feel very comfortable at low pressures and roll very well. So far, so good...

robbyville 09-01-22 04:49 PM

Well, I guess Iím trying something new. As mentioned before my LBS guy always treats me well so I picked up a pair of the new 5000S TRís in a 25mm (even though I keep promising myself that ďnext timeĒ Iíll try 28ís). Got them for $70ea including tax which seemed good.

Iíll be curious to see if I can feel any difference from the previous 5000TLís

The fairly still new Specialized S Works Turboís will be rotated to my vintage De Rosa (set up tubeless) for those monthly rides

robbyville 09-02-22 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by robbyville (Post 22632927)
Well, I guess Iím trying something new. As mentioned before my LBS guy always treats me well so I picked up a pair of the new 5000S TRís in a 25mm (even though I keep promising myself that ďnext timeĒ Iíll try 28ís). Got them for $70ea including tax which seemed good.

Iíll be curious to see if I can feel any difference from the previous 5000TLís

The fairly still new Specialized S Works Turboís will be rotated to my vintage De Rosa (set up tubeless) for those monthly rides

Iíll add to this, although they say that the new variation of 5000ís is easier to install vs previous, Iím goin to give that a definite Nuh-uh, at least on my Light Bicycle rims. Just as difficult to install as the originals! And I totally messed myself over when I inadvertently linstalled one in the wrong direction, and had to remove it. Gosh help me if I have to do a roadside repair! Of course that rarely happens and itíll be stretched out by the time it does.

Branko D 09-03-22 10:18 AM

Also have a set of Light Bicycle 45mm rims and the new GP5000 S were easier to install than the old GP5000 TLR which were a real pain on those rims.

On a pair of Mavic SLR45 wheels it was no problem to install them.
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robbyville 09-03-22 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by Branko D (Post 22634744)
Also have a set of Light Bicycle 45mm rims and the new GP5000 S were easier to install than the old GP5000 TLR which were a real pain on those rims.

On a pair of Mavic SLR45 wheels it was no problem to install them.
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i have the same rims, but woof Iíd have a hard time saying these were any easier to install than the earlier ones, but I have heard that to be the case. I do really like the ride quality though!

WhyFi 09-08-22 06:40 AM

Excel has twin packs of 25mm (only!) GP5KS TR for $120. https://www.excelsports.com/continen...ss-tire-2-pack

primov8 09-08-22 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22640166)
Excel has twin packs of 25mm (only!) GP5KS TR for $120. https://www.excelsports.com/continen...ss-tire-2-pack

Thanks for the link. It's been a long time, probably close to 10 years since I had a set of Continental tires on any build. The coffee option is going to look great with the new build coming up.

robbyville 09-09-22 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by primov8 (Post 22641063)
Thanks for the link. It's been a long time, probably close to 10 years since I had a set of Continental tires on any build. The coffee option is going to look great with the new build coming up.

despite my love/hate relationship with these tires they really do ride beautifully!

primov8 09-09-22 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by robbyville (Post 22641242)
despite my love/hate relationship with these tires they really do ride beautifully!

I'm looking forward to it as these tires will be mounted on a set of handbuilt Kinlin XR 31s when they arrive in a couple weeks.

PeteHski 09-12-22 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by robbyville (Post 22634450)
Iíll add to this, although they say that the new variation of 5000ís is easier to install vs previous, Iím goin to give that a definite Nuh-uh, at least on my Light Bicycle rims. Just as difficult to install as the originals! And I totally messed myself over when I inadvertently linstalled one in the wrong direction, and had to remove it. Gosh help me if I have to do a roadside repair! Of course that rarely happens and itíll be stretched out by the time it does.

I can't speak for the older version, but the latest 5000S TR are very easy to fit and inflate on my DT Swiss ERC 1400 rims. After running a pair this season (30mm version) they are now my favourite tyres. They held up very well on our rough UK roads and no flats. Grip/handling is pretty solid too and I'm sure they roll fast enough!

shmuelyosef 09-22-22 08:18 PM

Thoughts about the variability in getting tubeless to seal?
 
I have found great differences in the time it takes for sidewalls to seal tubeless...
- WTB Riddler 37s were terrible...they oozed for weeks before I finally gave up and sold them to a friend that prefers tubes (it's too bad, because they had a great road feel).
- Panaracer 35s took a couple of days to stop oozing, but they have been pretty good over the long haul. Had a ~1cm cut in one and managed to ride 5 more miles home, but had sealant on the backs of my legs and all over the back half of the bike.
- A pair of Continental Terra Speed 35 tires just never sealed completely. They would lose 2-3 PSI in a couple hours of riding and 10 PSI overnite. Didn't give me a lot of confidence.
- I just mounted a pair of Specialized Roubaix on a new set of HUNT wheels, and oddly one of the tires sealed up right away and the other is finally sealing after three days of sidewall oozing/frothing.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fcbcde3754.jpg
self-explanatory...the sealing process was done in parallel!

mschwett 09-25-22 06:57 PM

rather than start a new thread, figured i'd ask here! what kind of lifespan are people getting from their GP 5000S TR? i feel like they're lasting less long than the previous GP5000 TL, but my sample size is small. this rear (30mm) has a hair under 1,500 miles:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...670421222e.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c2e5bd10bb.jpg


all of my rear tires seem to get this distinctive squared off (hexagonal, really?) profile. is this typical, or perhaps due to most of the wear happening while going in a straight-ish line? braking hard before a corner, climbing seated? all my riding is on roads, the usual mix of super beautiful new paving and rough-ish rural and urban roads. weight of bike and rider and accessories is 200lb. i run between 60 and 70psi.

WhyFi 09-26-22 06:49 AM

Squaring off of the rear tire is normal. If that were my tire, I'd estimate that I'd get... oh, maybe another 1k out of it, based on the wear dimples.

What kind of mileage were you getting out of the TL? I'm at about the same bike + rider weight and feel like I'm doing pretty well to get 3k miles out of a rear tire, but I haven't used any Conti tires for a while.

mschwett 09-26-22 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22659613)
Squaring off of the rear tire is normal. If that were my tire, I'd estimate that I'd get... oh, maybe another 1k out of it, based on the wear dimples.

What kind of mileage were you getting out of the TL? I'm at about the same bike + rider weight and feel like I'm doing pretty well to get 3k miles out of a rear tire, but I haven't used any Conti tires for a while.

rear TL was looking like around 3,500-4,000 miles, but had to be replaced for unrelated reasons before it was totally toast.

if i get another 1,000 out of this one, iíll be happy. it looked further gone than that to me! thanks!

WhyFi 09-26-22 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by mschwett (Post 22659706)
if i get another 1,000 out of this one, iíll be happy. it looked further gone than that to me! thanks!

In fairness, I tend to run mine until cords show, so YMMV. :lol:

msu2001la 09-26-22 02:08 PM

Just another data point on the Conti S TR's - I have around 1500 miles on a pair in size 28mm. They look to have similar wear as the photos posted above. They're currently off the wheels and now can't tell a difference between front and rear, so no noticeable squaring off. Mine have a few small cuts in them, but I've never had any flats (that I'm aware of or see signs of). I assume I'll get at least another 500+ miles on these but might replace sooner if I start getting flats or find a good deal on something new. Overall I've been happy with these tires - they ride nice, have good grip and are super easy to mount.

For comparison I also have a set of 32mm Conti TL's that have been sitting in a bin for the last year or so. Those tires have around 2000-2500 miles on them and look to be in similar condition as the S TR's in terms of wear. I would conclude that the S TR's are wearing a bit faster, but still within what I would expect to get out of a tire like this. For the record - I loathe the TL's. They ride great, but are by far the most difficult tubeless tires I've used. I only kept them so that I could burn them up on the trainer this winter.


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