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Upgrading from steel: Canyon Endurace CF vs Specialized Roubaix

Old 04-14-21, 09:46 AM
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Upgrading from steel: Canyon Endurace CF vs Specialized Roubaix

I've had a nice comfy steel road bike for a long time and am thinking about getting a carbon road endurance geo bike. I'm assuming both these bikes would fit the bill but I am wondering if my posterior chain can handle the saddle to handlebar drop. Right now my fitter has my bars just a couple mm below my saddle. With these forks it doesn't look like there's much wiggle room for fitting. Any thoughts appreciated.
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I have to question the presupposition that CF is an upgrade from steel.

In any case, I would experiment with alternate fits before purchasing a new bike. If the new bike has an inferior fit, it won't be an upgrade regardless of how great the frame material is.
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My Canyon Endurace CF SL 7.0 Disk (man, that's a long name!) came with 37.5 mm worth of spacers, so you've got like 1 1/2" of adjustment there. I ended up with 12.5 under the stem. Fits for me with about 8.5 cm of drop. That's a Large, with 78cm saddle height.
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I'm not familiar with the Canyon, but am with the Roubaix as my wife rides one. Since it has the Future Shock, it appears to be a bit more limited in the amount you can raise or lower the stem. You might also consider the Domane (which I ride) which has more room to move the stem down from its factory setting.
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Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
I have to question the presupposition that CF is an upgrade from steel.
Depends on the steel, and on the CF. To me, a CF bike wasn't an upgrade so much as it was an alternative.

In any case, I would experiment with alternate fits before purchasing a new bike. If the new bike has an inferior fit, it won't be an upgrade regardless of how great the frame material is.
This is an excellent point, and one reason why I think unless you have a really good fit now, and you're confident of your ability to replicate it on another bike, Canyon's direct sales are a problem. Unless, of course, you're friendly with your LBS and they don't mind spending time fitting you, and you don't mind spending money.
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The Domane is closest to the geometry of my custom steel bike, which has a similar (lack of) drop to that of the OP bike. Of the three options now listed, Canyon has the least forgiving geometry.
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Roubaix can easily get the bars up to level with the saddle but not much higher than that.
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I'd talk with your shop about the Roubaix, the bars sit pretty high on it anyways and it sounds like it could accommodate you. The combination of the flex in the seat tube and in the handlebars also makes it more tolerant in general for your body.

I also switched from 20 years of steel to a Roubaix, about a year ago. It is night and day on overall comfort, especially if you throw on wider tires which my old frame could not fit.
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Had a Canyon Endurace CF for 2 years & would choose it again. You can ask me anything.
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Originally Posted by sshakari View Post
Had a Canyon Endurace CF for 2 years & would choose it again. You can ask me anything.
Very nice! I am waiting for the Canyon show room in Carlsbad to reopen after COVID-19 so I can try and order one.
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The Roubaix

at least up to 2019 will take any 1.125 stem. If you need to raise the front end you can simply install any goofy tall stem you want. And the Roubaix headtube tends to be longer than most so you your bars will be higher than most.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
I'm not familiar with the Canyon, but am with the Roubaix as my wife rides one. Since it has the Future Shock, it appears to be a bit more limited in the amount you can raise or lower the stem.
30mm. That's how much you can adjust the height of the Roubaix stem (the same amount of adjustment as the Domane ). You use either the short or tall head cap (15mm taller than the short head cap) in combination with 3x 5mm spacers that come with the bike. FYI the Roubaix spacers are NOT the same size as standard spacers and don't go under the stem. They go under the Future Shock itself.

Originally Posted by Ferrouscious View Post
Roubaix can easily get the bars up to level with the saddle but not much higher than that.
Depends on saddle height. I've got the stem as high as it will go on my Roubaix using the tall head cap and 3 x 5mm spacers, and I still have about 75mm saddle to bar drop.

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Originally Posted by Kabuto View Post
Depends on saddle height. I've got the stem as high as it will go on my Roubaix using the tall head cap and 3 x 5mm spacers, and I still have about 75mm saddle to bar drop.
Then get a bigger bike
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Originally Posted by Ferrouscious View Post
Then get a bigger bike
Village idiot, thanks but the top tube is already long enough.
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No need for that, he probably is right. Try a shorter stem, short reach bars, zero offset post. Specialized knows who is buying the Roubaix and built it accordingly.
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
No need for that, he probably is right.
No, he just thinks everyone has the same body proportions as him. An endurance bike IS a race bike for someone with long legs and short torso.
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Originally Posted by Kabuto View Post
No, he just thinks everyone has the same body proportions as him. An endurance bike IS a race bike for someone with long legs and short torso.
No need to insulted other poster for a logical comment. The stack on a Roubaix is much higher than a race bike plus as I mentioned there are numerous things that can be done to reduce reach.
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
No need to insulted other poster for a logical comment.
His signature is "Somewhere, a village is missing its idiot." Figured he was talking about himself...

Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
The stack on a Roubaix is much higher than a race bike plus as I mentioned there are numerous things that can be done to reduce reach.
I know. I've have reduced the reach with a shorter stem. Long legs in proportion to height > saddle is set higher than average. Short torso in proportion to height > shorter than average reach for one's height is needed. The end result is that even with the higher stack of the Roubaix, someone with long legs and short torso is going to have pretty much the same saddle to bar drop as a more "normally" proportioned person on a race bike with lower stack.

Originally Posted by Ferrouscious View Post
Roubaix can easily get the bars up to level with the saddle but not much higher than that.
So, can the Roubaix can easily get the bars up to level with the saddle? If you have short legs, sure. If not, it depends.

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