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23 v. 25 vs. 28 mm tire width?

Old 05-13-21, 04:47 PM
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What's the old saying? "My favorite color is ON SALE"

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I will say though that I am guilty of doing exactly what Tomato Coupe suggested. Every time I plan on buying a 25mm tire for my road bike, I see that the 23mm is on sale for less (no surprise considering the trends) and choose to save $10 or $20 rather than save my butt.
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Originally Posted by motopokep View Post
I'm going to try to put 25mm tires in place of my 4 inch tires on the fat bike.
Yep, that will probably generate the attention you seek.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Yep, that will probably generate the attention you seek.
Especially when he loses traction and slides down the trail.
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Originally Posted by motopokep View Post
I'm going to try to put 25mm tires in place of my 4 inch tires on the fat bike. that will turn heads.
Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Yep, that will probably generate the attention you seek.
I run 21 mm tubulars on my fat bike and, yes, it turns a lot of heads. But, that's mostly because there aren't a lot of other cyclists riding fat bikes at the velodrome.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
I run 21 mm tubulars on my fat bike and, yes, it turns a lot of heads. But, that's mostly because there aren't a lot of other cyclists riding fat bikes at the velodrome.
It brings up the question, is it still a fat bike if it has road tires on it?
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
It brings up the question, is it still a fat bike if it has road tires on it?
I'm gonna say no. If a track bike becomes a "fixie" as soon as it hits the streets, a fat bike should become a... I don't know... skinny bike?
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Old 05-14-21, 12:46 AM
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I wanna be like the guy on the left below, looks like he's leading because the fat tires make more contact with the road, resulting in more speed

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Old 05-14-21, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Yeah, amateurs do races of that length, and longer.

The now defunct Everest Challenge was 120 miles, 14,700' day 1; 85 miles, 12,500' day 2. Spectacular ride.

I don't race but entered the 40+ open race for fun on a 24-lb touring bike, wound up with the jersey.


bro, no offense meant, but if that's really you, your legs are highly disproportionate to your arms. you're in the wrong sport, you gotta retire this bicycle stuff and hit the weightroom and start doing curls and dips to build them bi's and tri's. or skip the weights, I know a guy in Mexico who'll pump up your arms with synthol i mean, my wrists are thicker than your arms they make fun of bodybuilders who often forego leg training and look funny with skinny legs. I see the bicycle community is the opposite, big leg muscles and no arms.




typical amateur bodybuilder:



typical cyclist:

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Pro cyclists actually come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. There are sprinters, climbers, pursuiters, all-rounders etc. They certainly don't all look like Chris Froome!
Someone like Chris Hoy could pass off as a "bodybuilder"

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Old 05-14-21, 08:15 AM
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[Y]our legs are highly disproportionate to your arms. you're in the wrong sport, you gotta retire this bicycle stuff and hit the weightroom.
Thanks for that unsolicited body building advice, motopokep .

The most memorable advice I received was from a bystander who was cheering on our group as we descended a twisty road. When I came into view, he yelled as loud as he could, "Oh my God, eat a SANDWICH!"

Cycling is one of the only sports in which my body type is an advantage.

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typical cyclist:

That's no "typical" cyclist, that's Michael Rasmussen, world mountain bike champion and twice-winner of best climber at the Tour de France.

His BMI is 19.5, in the normal, healthy range (as is mine, 18.9).

(Edit: That isn't Rasmussen after all. That's Chriss Froome. My mistake.)
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Originally Posted by motopokep View Post
I wanna be like the guy on the left below, looks like he's leading because the fat tires make more contact with the road, resulting in more speed

I loooooong time ago, I was on a training ride chugging along a flat road at about 32 mph enjoying the draft of a 100+ person pack when out of the corner of my eye there was some dude on a full suspension downhill bike passing the pack in the next lane over. It was Tinker Juarez.
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[QUOTE=terrymorse;22059015]Thanks for that unsolicited body building advice, motopokep .

The most memorable advice I received was from a bystander who was cheering on our group as we descended a twisty road. When I came into view, he yelled as loud as he could, "Oh my God, eat a SANDWICH!"

Cycling is one of the only sports in which my body type is an advantage.

/QUOTE]

Not the only. You'd be good at sprinting, marathons and then also mountain climbing and swimming (for the latter two, your arms would bulk up naturally". I'm just saying that cycling is one of the few sports (not the only though) that doesn't use all 4 limbs, resulting in funny-looking athletes with muscular legs and toothpicks arms. Do 10 sets of curls and 10 sets of dips or tricep extensions every week, rep range from 10, then go heavy all the way down to where you can only do 4-6 reps, go to failure on every set (where you can't do a single rep anymore). Your arms will grow if you get adequate protein intake. You're not gonna be looking like Dorian Yates, but at least people will think twice before knocking you off your bike to steal it
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Originally Posted by motopokep View Post
I'm just saying that cycling is one of the few sports (not the only though) that doesn't use all 4 limbs, resulting in funny-looking athletes with muscular legs and toothpicks arms. Do 10 sets of curls and 10 sets of dips or tricep extensions every week, rep range from 10, then go heavy all the way down to where you can only do 4-6 reps, go to failure on every set (where you can't do a single rep anymore). Your arms will grow if you get adequate protein intake. You're not gonna be looking like Dorian Yates, but at least people will think twice before knocking you off your bike to steal it
That'll just make the arms heavier and increase their aerodynamic profile. Why would a road cyclist want to put in extra work to make themselves slower?
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I'm looking at a tire that comes in two widths, 25 or 23 mm. What is the most widely used tire width for road cycling? I understand the thinner the tire, the less contact with the road = more speed. The thicker the tire = better handling on unpaved surfaces. Why would someone want the "thicker" 25 mm or even a 28 mm tire? I don't imagine having to ride on any gravel or grass, should I go with a 23 mm tire?

Aside from performance, how does width affect stability and durability (in terms of getting flats)? Also, will a 23 mm tire fit all standard 700cc rims that come with a 28 mm stock tire?
Since this thread has gone sideways (as usual), I will try to put it back on the right path.

25mm is the ''standard'' and 28mm is on the edge of taking its place. Many race bikes come with 28mm tires nowadays. Personally, I like 28mm because I can lower the pressure (more comfortable) without having the increased rolling resistance.

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Originally Posted by eduskator View Post
Since this thread has gone sideways (as usual), I will try to put it back on the right path.

25mm is the ''standard'' and 28mm is on the edge of taking its place. Many race bikes come with 28mm tires nowadays. Personally, I like 28mm because I can lower the pressure (more comfortable) without having the increased rolling resistance.
It's gone sideways due to the nature of the OP and the initial intent to turn into another troll thread.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
That's no "typical" cyclist, that's Michael Rasmussen, world mountain bike champion and twice-winner of best climber at the Tour de France.

His BMI is 19.5, in the normal, healthy range (as is mine, 18.9).
My wife and I can pick him out of the peloton by his elbows/arms alone (we call him "Praying Mantis arms"), and that Sir, is Chris Froome, 4 time winner of the TdF, as well as the winner of Vuelta, and Giro.

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My wife and I can pick him out of the the peloton by his elbows/arms alone (we call him "Praying Mantis arms"), and that Sir, is Chris Froome, 4 time winner of the TdF, as well as the winner of Vuelta, and Giro.
Ah, you're right of course! I should have taken a closer look.

That is Chris Froome (6'1" 146 lbs, BMI 19.3), winner of 7 grand tours.

When he's kitted up in yellow and climbing hard, Rasmussen does bear a passing resemblance:


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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Ah, you're right of course! I should have taken a closer look.

That is Chris Froome (6'1" 146 lbs, BMI 19.3), winner of 7 grand tours.

When he's kitted up in yellow and climbing hard, Rasmussen does bear a passing resemblance:


Similar yes, but c'mon, those are CLEARLY not Froome's biceps
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Originally Posted by motopokep View Post
I wanna be like the guy on the left below, looks like he's leading because the fat tires make more contact with the road, resulting in more speed

"For seven hours and 12 minutes, Emge battled fellow racers and his own wide tires to finish the 112-mile bike portion of the triathlon. He clocked an average speed of 15.49mph, putting him at 1,854th of 2,671 total athletes for that segment (as well as 78th of 160 athletes in the 55-59 division)—an especially impressive finish considering his choice of gear."

I'm thinking he could have done better without the ridiculous bike choice.
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Originally Posted by motopokep View Post
Not the only. You'd be good at sprinting, marathons and then also mountain climbing and swimming (for the latter two, your arms would bulk up naturally". I'm just saying that cycling is one of the few sports (not the only though) that doesn't use all 4 limbs, resulting in funny-looking athletes with muscular legs and toothpicks arms. Do 10 sets of curls and 10 sets of dips or tricep extensions every week, rep range from 10, then go heavy all the way down to where you can only do 4-6 reps, go to failure on every set (where you can't do a single rep anymore). Your arms will grow if you get adequate protein intake. You're not gonna be looking like Dorian Yates, but at least people will think twice before knocking you off your bike to steal it
This suggestion makes as much sense as many of your other ideas. At least you're consistent.
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Curls are a junk exercise.
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Curls are a junk exercise.
I used to do the 12 ounce curls but it made my belly grow.
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Aerobelly! Helps smooth turbulent flow behind the stem. Some people pay big money for belly fairings. You'll see them fund raising in front of grocery stores in December, wearing red and white to be conspicuous, usually they're practicing their bell ringing skills to be in shape for MUP racing season.
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
"For seven hours and 12 minutes, Emge battled fellow racers and his own wide tires to finish the 112-mile bike portion of the triathlon. He clocked an average speed of 15.49mph, putting him at 1,854th of 2,671 total athletes for that segment (as well as 78th of 160 athletes in the 55-59 division)—an especially impressive finish considering his choice of gear."

I'm thinking he could have done better without the ridiculous bike choice.
Maybe it was a case of "ride with what brung you."
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Maybe it was a case of "ride with what brung you."
I thought about that and he's obviously a strong guy to do what he did. Just seeing clip on aero bars on a fatbike would be unusual.I suspect he might enjoy beating people on the thing, though.
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