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Compact replacement for 10-speed SRAM Red crank?

Old 05-31-21, 01:32 PM
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Compact replacement for 10-speed SRAM Red crank?

I bought a used bike with one minor issue - it has a standard 53/39 crankset (130 BCD) and I'd strongly prefer a compact 50/34 (110 BCD). The drivetrain is 10-speed SRAM Red, and it has a PF86 GXP bottom bracket. What would you recommend for replacing it? Not a lot of options on eBay for a matching used Red (or Rival, or Force) crank - I just lost out on one. 10-speed Apex cranks are available, new, at reasonable prices. Is there any advantage, other than weight, to the higher-level cranks? Would I actually notice a 250-300g difference? Would I be better off with a new 11-speed crank, or would shifting performance suffer slightly? I don't really want to replace the bottom bracket too; are there other brands that are compatible with a GXP bottom bracket (other than Truvativ, of course)?
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Old 05-31-21, 02:02 PM
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Any 10 or 11 speed road GXP crank will work. Unlikely you will notice any difference in weight at that location on the bike.
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Old 05-31-21, 03:20 PM
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The reason I would buy a used bike is that it's cheaper than a new one. If I had to replace any component that didn't suit my needs I would replace it with one that was the cheapest ****ioning option. If I had a preference for a perticular brand then that's where I would look. I your case the SRAM Apex GXP Compact 10sp Double Chainset. If you wanted to keep the speced full functionalty of your group set as SRAM intended than that's the way to go. If you want to throw more money at the project, then sure move up to the higher spec chainsets. As a rule problems are solved using the simplest solutions, not the most complicated Would you be better off with a 11 speed crankset...funcunality is pretty much the same...but better off no...due to the extra cost factor. Which makes buying a used bike for a cost benefit slightly redundant...Unless ofcourse this is a piecemeal upgrade then carry on and ignore all of this The other good news is 10- and 11-speed SRAM road components are inter-compatible – meaning you could run a 10-speed SRAM Red rear derailleur with a pair of SRAM 22 shifters...(with an 11 speed casette ofcourse).

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Old 06-01-21, 09:31 AM
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I have a Rival GXP crank available (175mm) basically new. I went through the same drill recently, ending up with a Force crank at a modest savings of grams.

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Sometimes it's less expensive just to change the cassette. Depends on what gear ratios you need for min and max and which you are normally in for most of your riding.

Don't just change because you heard the term compact crankset being touted as the cure all for everything cycling. They've stopped doing that to a large extent lately.
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Old 06-01-21, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
Sometimes it's less expensive just to change the cassette. Depends on what gear ratios you need for min and max and which you are normally in for most of your riding.
I have another road bike with a compact crank, and I've done enough riding on the 53/39 crank to know that for a longer climbing ride I'll want lower gears. I already have an 11-28 in the rear which is the largest the derailleur is rated for, and buying a new cassette plus a new derailleur would cost as much as the Apex crank. Also, I never need a 53/11 combination; I almost never use the 50/11 on my other bikes.

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Old 06-01-21, 10:34 AM
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You don't pedal going downhill?

You can get a DR that will allow you up to a 32 or 34 tooth cog. But I don't know what your other specifics are for gearing needs. If you have to have close spacing, I can see that a bail out low ratio won't do.
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Old 06-01-21, 11:47 AM
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We're veering off-topic here, but
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You don't pedal going downhill?
I do until I spin out, and at that point I don't need to be going any faster. I enjoy twisty descents more than pure speed on a straight downhill, and try to plan my routes accordingly.

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You can get a DR that will allow you up to a 32 or 34 tooth cog. But I don't know what your other specifics are for gearing needs. If you have to have close spacing, I can see that a bail out low ratio won't do.
I'm failing to see the advantage of replacing both the rear derailleur and the cassette, when I know I can get the gearing I want - the gearing I already have on another bike - by replacing the crank. It's comparable cost and fewer additional pieces to adjust. I'm already replacing the front derailleur cable so I'll need to reset that anyway, and chances are the chain will be fine as is or at worst I'll remove a link which is better than adding one.
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Old 06-01-21, 12:33 PM
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Well it seems you've got me stymied to give you any reason not to. You have thought out the gear ratio stuff enough.

So my thought is why not buy SRAM Red crankset from an online vendor that has new or slightly used 10 speed SRAM Reds? Why pay eBay prices for used stuff that is higher than new stuff at other online vendors?
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
So my thought is why not buy SRAM Red crankset from an online vendor that has new or slightly used 10 speed SRAM Reds? Why pay eBay prices for used stuff that is higher than new stuff at other online vendors?
Can you provide a link to such a vendor? Ebay is the only place I've found any 10-speed SRAM Red parts. Used 10-speed Red cranks on Ebay are selling for somewhere between new 11-speed Rival and Force cranks.
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Originally Posted by nathand View Post
Can you provide a link to such a vendor? Ebay is the only place I've found any 10-speed SRAM Red parts. Used 10-speed Red cranks on Ebay are selling for somewhere between new 11-speed Rival and Force cranks.
You don't need a 10-speed specific crank. 11-speed will do just fine.
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Old 06-02-21, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nathand View Post
Can you provide a link to such a vendor? Ebay is the only place I've found any 10-speed SRAM Red parts. Used 10-speed Red cranks on Ebay are selling for somewhere between new 11-speed Rival and Force cranks.
I would go with Force and call it a day: Red has a big cost premium for the weight savings, and compact Red cranksets are not readily available IME.

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