DIY derailleur hanger?
06-21-21, 03:23 PM
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DIY derailleur hanger?
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Has anyone every made their own derailleur hanger or modified one?
Got a Raleigh SP Team frame and can't get a derailleur hanger for love nor money. Can find some that are close though.
Wondered if anyone had ever made or modified one for an old frame? Possible with hand tools and pillar drill?
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Has anyone every made their own derailleur hanger or modified one?
Got a Raleigh SP Team frame and can't get a derailleur hanger for love nor money. Can find some that are close though.
Wondered if anyone had ever made or modified one for an old frame? Possible with hand tools and pillar drill?
Cheers
06-22-21, 06:13 AM
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https://derailleurhanger.com/manufacturer/raleigh/
They seem to have Raleigh derailleur hangers pretty well covered.
They seem to have Raleigh derailleur hangers pretty well covered.
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If you have the skills and are creative, you can make one.
To do it properly, you will need the appropriate tap to make a thread for the bolt.
Alternatively, you could use a bolt and nut. You need to ensure it does not interfere with anything.
Understand, the bit that hangs down at the very bottom, is there to prevent the derailleur from rotating forward. You need to include that, or have another method to prevent the derailleur from rotating forward.
If it was me, I would use a larger piece of steel, so you have something to hold on to, or grip in a vice, and cut it off at the end.
To do it properly, you will need the appropriate tap to make a thread for the bolt.
Alternatively, you could use a bolt and nut. You need to ensure it does not interfere with anything.
Understand, the bit that hangs down at the very bottom, is there to prevent the derailleur from rotating forward. You need to include that, or have another method to prevent the derailleur from rotating forward.
If it was me, I would use a larger piece of steel, so you have something to hold on to, or grip in a vice, and cut it off at the end.
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Tried that site and numerous others but the correct one isn't on there unfortunately.
Was looking at 10mm aluminium sheet then sanded down to 5mm to creat that part which stops it moving forward. Its a two point fixing so doesn't need to be 100% perfect.
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Was looking at 10mm aluminium sheet then sanded down to 5mm to creat that part which stops it moving forward. Its a two point fixing so doesn't need to be 100% perfect.
Would post a picture but not allowed until I've done 10 posts.
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Post a pic to imgur and put the URL on here, or send it as a PM. We can get the picture on here from there.
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Only allowed to post urls after 10 posts as well. Fingers crossed I've found one close so will hopefully fit with a little modifying.
06-22-21, 09:54 AM
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You want to use a malleable AL alloy as it needs the ability to be repeatedly bent not broken
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Originally Posted by Drukas
...made their own derailleur hanger or modified one?
Derailuer Hangar Welded - "Puch"
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Originally Posted by Drukas
Only allowed to post urls after 10 posts as well. Fingers crossed I've found one close so will hopefully fit with a little modifying.
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Originally Posted by popeye
You want to use a malleable AL alloy as it needs the ability to be repeatedly bent not broken
The derailleur hanger is designed to be substantially weaker than the dropout and frame. A broken hanger is far preferable to a bent or broken frame.
Some 6061 aluminum sheet ought to suit just fine. It's fairly strong (as aluminum goes), very commonly available, and not terribly expensive.
A slightly bent hanger can be straightened. If the bend is substantial, it's time to replace it.
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Originally Posted by Drukas
Was looking at 10mm aluminium sheet then sanded down to 5mm to creat(e) that part which stops it moving forward. Its a two point fixing so doesn't need to be 100% perfect.
No charge, just pay for the postage.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
If you need to mill down a 10mm sheet, I have a small milling machine that can handle aluminum easily. I'd be happy to mill it down for you. I also have a full set of metric taps.
No charge, just pay for the postage.
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06-22-21, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
Malleability is not the design purpose of an aluminum derailleur hanger, since aluminum won't tolerate much bending without breaking.
The derailleur hanger is designed to be substantially weaker than the dropout and frame. A broken hanger is far preferable to a bent or broken frame.
Some 6061 aluminum sheet ought to suit just fine. It's fairly strong (as aluminum goes), very commonly available, and not terribly expensive.
A slightly bent hanger can be straightened. If the bend is substantial, it's time to replace it.
The derailleur hanger is designed to be substantially weaker than the dropout and frame. A broken hanger is far preferable to a bent or broken frame.
Some 6061 aluminum sheet ought to suit just fine. It's fairly strong (as aluminum goes), very commonly available, and not terribly expensive.
A slightly bent hanger can be straightened. If the bend is substantial, it's time to replace it.
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06-22-21, 02:30 PM
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Terry is correct 6061 is fine.
Derailleur hangers (dropouts) generally are made from relatively soft aluminum. There are few ways of manufacturing them: Cast, stamp, forge or CNC machined aluminium. The highest quality and precision has CNC machined derailleur hangers. CNC machined sos hangers are made from higher quality aluminium mark 6061 T651.
The new DI2 DA has a skeleton drop out. Looks scary.
Derailleur hangers (dropouts) generally are made from relatively soft aluminum. There are few ways of manufacturing them: Cast, stamp, forge or CNC machined aluminium. The highest quality and precision has CNC machined derailleur hangers. CNC machined sos hangers are made from higher quality aluminium mark 6061 T651.
The new DI2 DA has a skeleton drop out. Looks scary.
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Oof...
Any chance you have the original hanger? There are quite a few that are similar, but it would be difficult to know the exact bolt locations without a detailed diagram.
Wheels Manufacturing has a fairly extensive list of hangers.
https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-han...list_limit=all
This hanger 123 looks close, but it is hard to tell.
https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-han...anger-123.html
I think that may be the 517 on the site above
https://derailleurhanger.com/product...ur-hanger-517/
There are also hangers like this 167 that may be close, but may need some file work to get it to fit right.
https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-han...anger-167.html
Any chance you have the original hanger? There are quite a few that are similar, but it would be difficult to know the exact bolt locations without a detailed diagram.
Wheels Manufacturing has a fairly extensive list of hangers.
https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-han...list_limit=all
This hanger 123 looks close, but it is hard to tell.
https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-han...anger-123.html
I think that may be the 517 on the site above
https://derailleurhanger.com/product...ur-hanger-517/
There are also hangers like this 167 that may be close, but may need some file work to get it to fit right.
https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-han...anger-167.html
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Found one with the best hole placement. Then some file work will be happening. Will post update once it arrives.
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Mech hanger came through the post. Holes are spot on location wise. 5 mins with a file and it fits. Happy days.
Cheers for the info folks.
Cheers for the info folks.
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