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I have to also disagree that kids=suv/minivan... what you cant fit a childseat on an accord..(shakes his head)

not trying to say it isn't bad in Britain - i know how small your roads are, having driven many of them.

but what's the biggest SUV/truck for sale over there? the Defender 130? thats 16.8 feet long and 5.8 feet wide, massing around 3500 kilos. we've got crap like the Dodge Ram 3500 (which i see multiples of every day, usually super clean and shiny). 20.8 feet long and 8 feet wide, with around the same weight. the Ford Super Duty (another common truck around here) can be even longer, depending on spec. the Ford Excursion (a local favorite in the SUV set) masses just under 4200 kilos!

plus, with our relatively cheap fuel, the "SUV boom" has been going on a lot longer - i get decade-old Ford Explorers and Chevy Blazers in my shop all the time. that's a lot of pointless trucks on the road.

we own a Land Rover Discovery - we bought it because it could go anywhere, tow almost anything that doesn't require a fifth wheel, and carry five (or more) people. it's always dirty, has waterproof seat covers and thick rubber mats. these yutzes that need a Chevy Avalanche to run down to Starbucks for a low-fat latte are a blight on our civilization...

The same reason I drive a Jetta could be the same reason someone should not drive an SUV. If you can't handle it, or know where every part of your car is in relation to other drivers, peds and cyclists, then simply, you shouldn't be allowed to drive it. The gent next door to my GFs drives a large truck and well he should, since he's a really experienced semi-driver.

When you're driving a larger vehicle, you should drive proportionally slower because you might not have the experience to get yourself out of a jam that you would in a smaller vehicle. The other reason for SUVs to be required to drive at a slower speed is the sheer force delivered to lighter vehicles that have no protection against a high overhanging bumper.

Today I came within several feet of getting sandwiched between a bus cutting me off and the barrier on the way to the Lincoln Tunnel. I slammed on the brakes and was able to miss this swerving bus. He just drove on ahead. I think that there is sometimes a non-caring attitude with drivers of larger vehicles, knowing that they can inflict a great deal of damage.

:eek: Read the directions! You don't put them ON the car! hahaa ;)

See, if he had an SUV he wouldn't even think about putting it ON it. ;)

Ahh... :fight:... ;)...

P.S I have an suv but its a rav4, more like a tall corolla... and yes I hate suvs but I still drive one becasue I cant afford a new car anytime soon...

True.. and its your car which gets totalled while there is a little bump on the big vehicle.. knowing that makes us stop, the big vehicle takes more advantage and eventually becomes its birth right...yeah right..

They must not drive much to go that long without hitting the gas station. ;)

Exactly!

Let me say I am in no way excusing my actions. But you sir are way off base. My daughter was in fact not swerving all over the road. Me and her both were on the right side of the road. The guy missed me by a few inches and ran over my daughter who was directly in front of me.

Yes it was an accident. But that in no way excuses his behavior afterwards nor mine.

But what do I expect on a bicycle board? It's just like motrcycle boards, Just because he is one of ya'll he can do no wrong. :rolleyes:

Sued me, Bwahahahahahaha the dude doesn't even know who I am. I was visiting relatives from out of town. Do i feel remorse? No, I should have taken my daughter home and then came back and kicked the crap out of him. :D
And I'll die alright, every day I live I get one day closer to it. :D

As far as leaving him in agony, well that is what his stupidity got him. He didn't seem too interrested in whether my daughter was alright or not. As a matter of fact his first words out of his mouth were something like. "That stupid little Bi$%h shouldn't be on the road".

you got any kids? Hows about I come over and cuss them like that, would that be alright with you?

jeff

SUV's are very usefull but they are just not fun to drive. I love to drive more than anything else in the world. I would say even more than sex!!! I love to rag out my little loud, lowrider, go cart, jap, sport compact around corners and slam on the brakes do 100 on the tollway when traffic alows and so on. I can still fit my bike the back too!

High dollar "SUV's" in big quotes as in yeah right like a Porche Cayanne, BMW 4.8is X5 and whatever MB ML 600 someodd horse monster are way out of most peoples price range and I would tow anything much over 6000 gross with them either.

I have had the pleasure of riding in the city limits of Chicago and the 'burbs.

At least in the city, there are bike lanes and people are more understandable. In the suburbs though, it is a completly different story. The worst is having semi trucks fly by you. It can get pretty scary...

Somehow I doubt they could fit all that unecessary crap they bought at the mall plus the kids in the accord. Best to put the bloody lil' bugger on the roof as they wouldn't want to get their new "goodies" dirty. :eek:

SUVs seem to be only used to haul vast quantities of watered down, consumer grade, mall garbage back to the house.

In the end, it boils down to mass overconsumption by all the mindless little consumers. Why don't they just come right out and say, "My life is vapid and I suck at driving...so please supersize my SUV and my fat greasy broke ass." :mad:

I don't remember seeing solid front and rear axles under a Lexus.

It doesn't sound like you're a parent, because it doesn't sound like you have an understanding of what happens in that type of situation. If someone hurts one of your kids out of negligence, your blood is already going to be boiling. The next thing out of their mouth better be, "I'm sorry". I can't say I would have done anything differently. It may not be rational, it may not be humane, but that's the way it is. You admitted yourself you acted irrationally after you were injured, but you can't understand how someone might act irrationally when placed in a highly emotional situation.

Act irrationally....

I: Used swear words.
He: Kicked a person's broken leg.

Perfectly comparable.

And no, I'm not a parent, but let me get this straight: As a parent, you have the right to do whatever you want when something happens to your kid? Well, let's hope you do something and get thrown in the slammer. There is no excuse. Parent or not.

How is it that you think you "need" a Land Rover Discovery? I don't "need" a vehicle, period.

About a year ago I saw a yutze in a Land Rover that thought he could go anywhere. He was showing off climbing a big brush pile when a limb poked through his radiator and shut him down. I towed him back to the main road (in my Avalanche), so AAA could tow him back to town.

Let's see, if someone disagrees with you, you wish something bad happens to them, which is pretty sophomoric BTW. Yet you expect us to believe you'd act completely mature and rational in a situation you can't even come close to understanding. Yes, there is such a thing as mitigating circumstances. That's why we have juries.

Most parents I know will KILL if someone does something to harm their child. Their excuse will be, "He harmed my child."

Similarly, mama bear will kill you if you get close to the cub, you don't even have to mess with it to end up quite dead. It's basic instinct and the law of nature.

Kicking the guy's broken leg may at first seem cruel, but when you take the guy's attitude into account and a parent's instinct, a far more deadly outcome could have been the end result.

Man's law and modern civlilties is not going to stop mama bear from defending her cub.

The amount of self-vigalintee that you see people is either
a) an attribute of how barbaric the people throwing stones at the "bad people"
b) an epitome of what happens to somebody who can throw stones at other people from behind a computer

Either way it is very immature and if he had had an ounce of brains he could have easily filed a lawstuit that would would probably result in the loss of the motorcycle and the SUV regardless of what he did. It is not your right to hurt somebody else because they did something you don't like. That is barbarism and vigilantism - something we should have left behin along time ago but something alot of people here can't seem to comprehend.

Kicking a guy's broken leg is right in line with the psychological picture drawn of SUV drivers in the book "High And Mighty". It's well worth reading!

Isn't it bad enough he leg got broken? Yeah your daughter got bruised etc but that could have happened in a football game with the other neighborhood kids etc anyway. The biker was going way too fast, but kicking a guy's broken leg is just sick. Only an SUV driver would brag about something like that.

I have to take exception to this statement. Women are no less likely than men to know where the edges of their vehicles are. My point was that a great many people who drive SUVs, especially those who have recently taken up driving them don't seem to have a good concept of how large and ungainly their vehicles really are. Men and women. I'm a woman, and I know exactly how much space my old 1959 VW takes up. It took me a while to get used to my husband's new VW, but now, I know how much space it takes up. I can parallel park either of them in one go, which is more than many people can say about their cars. I'm a firm believer that small cars are much more maneuverable, and that it is generally easier to judge their space requirements. One's spatial perception seems somewhat skewed when you sit up higher. In a big truck, it looks like you have miles and miles of space around you because you are up above the beltline of smaller vehicles. When you are in something lower slung, like a compact car, you have an eye-to-eye view with much more of the traffic around you, and you gain a lot more respect for what you can and cannot get around or tangle with.

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Naaah, that doesn't count. The RAV4 is all car, other than its shape and a couple inches of ground clearance (about the same as a 1973 Chevy Nova SS :lol: ). So don't feel bad. Same goes for Forester owners. You bought a tall boxy station wagon.