Peloton vs Cycling
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it all depends how you use an indoor bike. A good smart trainer can simulate climbing very accurately. Your friends are probably not using it the same way.
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That probably has more to do with the fact that most spin classes are geared toward high cadence interval training rather than slow grinds than anything to do with upper body strength. There are other types of classes and indoor training that are better prep for climbing. Also, what type of hills are you talking about? If you are talking about 100' climbs out of the saddle (I see you live in LI), then upper body strength would matter a lot more than 2000' climbs in the saddle.
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Indoors...you cannot replicate wind, the weight of the rider or the weight of the bike against the wind. Especially riding up a hill. There is no comparison. Increasing the resistance is not the same.
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if I'm doing 270w, it's 270w whether I'm inside, riding into the wind, riding up the hill, etc. for all intents and purposes, it's the same
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It's literally just wattage. Pushing against the wind requires more watts. Lifting your weight against gravity requires more watts. Increasing the resistance on an indoor trainer requires more watts. It's just physics, man.
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If all you care about is below the waist then spin is fine.
BTW, my road bike doesn't have a flywheel like a spin bike.
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If you're delivering 270 watts into your cranks, you're delivering 270 watts into your cranks. It's the same whether I'm on a Peloton in my garage, a 50-pound beach cruiser, a tricycle, a fat bike or a $12,000 lightweight racing bike climbing the Stelvio. Again, standing sprints or short climbs use somewhat different muscles, but you don't stand much on long climbs anyway. Watts are watts.
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I like to sweat my a** off when I ride indoors. There's something cathartic about it. However, I drink a full 24-ounce bottle of electrolyte drink every 30 minutes when I ride indoors. It requires some mopping when I'm done ; )
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Skeletal muscles are an important part of the system. It's where oxygen combines with fuel to produce power. It's where the hard working mitochondria live. It's where the capillaries live that carry that oxygen-rich blood to the muscle fibers.
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yeah, but that's all due to development as a result of aerobic exercise, the comments above try to assert that somehow people are weaker climbers because they aren't using their upper body muscles on a stationary bike, versus the reality that people probably aren't don't have the power to weight to be strong uphill riders.
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If you're delivering 270 watts into your cranks, you're delivering 270 watts into your cranks. It's the same whether I'm on a Peloton in my garage, a 50-pound beach cruiser, a tricycle, a fat bike or a $12,000 lightweight racing bike climbing the Stelvio. Again, standing sprints or short climbs use somewhat different muscles, but you don't stand much on long climbs anyway. Watts are watts.
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Would you say that one could get more out of a stationary bike than actually cycling? If I ride my Peloton for 20 miles, my legs are burning the entire time as where when I am road biking the same mileage is no where near the workout. Of course this is because coasting and down hill stints. With the Peloton that 20 miles is consistant from begining to end.
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