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2016 Fuji Grandfondo 2.0 LE vs. 2016 Trek Emonda SL5

Old 11-19-21, 08:30 PM
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2016 Fuji Grandfondo 2.0 LE vs. 2016 Trek Emonda SL5

Which would you prefer? The Trek has 105 components and the Fuji has Ultegra. But I believe the Trek has the lighter and better constructed frame? Both are used and from 2016, and the Fuji is listed a good $500 cheaper. I worry about ďyou get what you pay forĒ. Am I better off spending the extra $ and getting the Trek? I ride a ton in the warm weather, even done a couple of centuries, and have a couple of competitive triathlons planned next summerÖ itís time to move up to a carbon frame, but I donít want a TT bike and I donít want to have to upgrade again for at least a couple of years.
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Old 11-20-21, 07:13 AM
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Fuji probably was $500 cheaper from the start .... you pay a nameplate penalty with trek. if the components are in good shape, 6800 vs 5800? both excellent but who wouldn't prefer Ultegra?

Why do you think the Trek frame is better? Not saying it isn't just never heard much about that. Likely they came from the same Taiwan-based manufacturer and were both constructed in China ......

As far as weight .... you can weigh them both and make that call .... are the wheels comparable? Would you be swapping in other wheels or cockpit parts?

I'd imagine (but admittedly do not know) that both frames would be fine for you ...... I haven't heard about issues with either. And since these are older bikes, wear and tear probably matters more than initial quality. Headset and bottom-bracket bearings? Signs of crash damage or high mileage?

Ultimately I think you should choose the one that makes you Feel best. if you try to make a purely rational decision based on so little actual evidence, you will probably always be second-guessing yourself. Likely they are so nearly equivalent that paint color is the biggest factor.
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Old 11-20-21, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Fuji probably was $500 cheaper from the start .... you pay a nameplate penalty with trek. if the components are in good shape, 6800 vs 5800? both excellent but who wouldn't prefer Ultegra?

Why do you think the Trek frame is better? Not saying it isn't just never heard much about that. Likely they came from the same Taiwan-based manufacturer and were both constructed in China ......

As far as weight .... you can weigh them both and make that call .... are the wheels comparable? Would you be swapping in other wheels or cockpit parts?

I'd imagine (but admittedly do not know) that both frames would be fine for you ...... I haven't heard about issues with either. And since these are older bikes, wear and tear probably matters more than initial quality. Headset and bottom-bracket bearings? Signs of crash damage or high mileage?

Ultimately I think you should choose the one that makes you Feel best. if you try to make a purely rational decision based on so little actual evidence, you will probably always be second-guessing yourself. Likely they are so nearly equivalent that paint color is the biggest factor.
Thanks for the feedback. The issue is I canít really try them out side by side. Iím heading out for the day for a show 3.5 hours away and I broadened my Craigslist search and found the Fuji a good 3 hour drive from me (heading that way anyway). The owner of the Trek isnít around until next week (and is only about an hour away).

My concern is I canít find the specific model the seller listed for the Fuji. I have read around here that the Trek SL frame is a significant step up from the regular S frame, but is is better than the Fuji?? I just canít find out. But yeah, Ultegra vs. 105 is a no brainer. The Fuji though has an FSA crank and I just donít know anything about FSA.

In reality, I suspect I can get the Trek for about $1300, and the Fuji for $1000, so more like a $300 difference and at a price that close, Iíd rather get the Trek if itís better, and I just canít tell. What sells me on the Fuji is the frame geometric is designed more for endurance, and since I love distance riding it might just be the best choice.

Well, I arranged to meet the Fuji owner this afternoon. If it looks good Iíll probably go that route, and the Trek is a backup if the Fuji isnít up to par.

Thanks again!
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I have a 2017 (?) Fuji Sportif, which is the same bike in aluminum instead of CF. It has an FSA crank and Spyre mech discs, otherwise it is all 105. I cannot say enough good things about it. I have never felt a need to swap the crank, never felt it do anything it shouldn't .... and it is my work/rain/cargo bike so it gets all the worst assignments. It is amazingly comfortable---to me. Your mileage will, of course, vary.

I have never owned an Emonda so I cannot help with the comparison. I can say the FSA cranks would not be an issue for me.
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Well, I figured I’d make an update. I checked out the Fuji yesterday…. It wasn’t for me. For starters, the brakes were Tektro, not Ultegra, which felt like a real downgrade. Reading around here they’re closer to 105, and most say 105 is superior. Also the rear derailer had some cosmetic damage which implied the bike was laid down at some point. Also the crank made some weird noises and it was the clear the bike hadn’t been well maintained. The seller did have some cool carbon aero bars added, and a carbon seat post, but the bike still felt pretty heavy to me. And overall, the geometry just felt weird… almost like a hybrid. For $1000 it didn’t feel like it was worth it.

I was able to hit my local bike shop before I left and I talked with the guy I trust over there who said the SL5 is definitely a better frame, and on that alone, probably the better purchase. Seeing the Fuji has pushed me in that direction. I’m trying to negotiate a fair price on the Trek and that’s probably where I’ll end up.

Thanks for the input.!
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Glad you got the important info and will get a better bike.
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For starters, the brakes were Tektro, not Ultegra, which felt like a real downgrade. Reading around here they’re closer to 105, and most say 105 is superior.
Rim brake calipers all work well and shouldn't be a deciding factor here. Tektro makes some nice brakes that work well. Replacing calipers is dirt cheap any way.
Also the rear derailer had some cosmetic damage which implied the bike was laid down at some point. Also the crank made some weird noises and it was the clear the bike hadn’t been well maintained.
These are better reasons to avoid buying.
And overall, the geometry just felt weird… almost like a hybrid. For $1000 it didn’t feel like it was worth it.
This is the biggest difference between these bikes. The Emonda is a stiff, aggressive race bike with a short head tube. Unless you want to run a bunch of spacers, make sure that's what you want.

I was able to hit my local bike shop before I left and I talked with the guy I trust over there who said the SL5 is definitely a better frame, and on that alone, probably the better purchase. Seeing the Fuji has pushed me in that direction. I’m trying to negotiate a fair price on the Trek and that’s probably where I’ll end up.
This is questionable. Fuji frames are hardly garbage. Also, the Emonda has both Trek's (semi-infamous) BB90 bottom bracket and an integral seatmast. Both are close to deal killers for me personally. Just my opinion.
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Yeah .... they are completely different bikes. One is "endurance"-geometry and one is low-and-long race geometry. They are like a Phillips and a flat screwdriver---not interchangeable. But Fuji makes good stuff---and like Giant, they charge less because they don't have a big name but offer all the value.

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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
Yeah .... they are completely different bikes. One is "endurance"-geometry and one is low-and-long race geometry. They are like a Phillips and a flat screwdriver---not interchangeable. But Fuji makes good stuff---and like Giant, they charge less because they don't have a big name but offer all the value.

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Get what feels the most comfortable for you to ride. Fuji makes Awesome bike, I have a 2013 Fuji SST 3.0, which I love. Its a more aggressive sprinters frame set up compared to a Grand Fondo. Most important is to get what you want and makes you happy.
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