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Old 12-13-21, 04:26 PM
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Which wheels to buy?

Hello, cureently i am looking at those 3 carbon wheels; Fulcrum wind 55db, zipp303s and reynolds ar41db.

Anyone tried any of those and can tell me
more which one i should go with?

Also open to other recommendations around 1300-1400$. (1000-1200€)

Thank you
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I'm currently using the Zipp 303s. There's a good topic on in this forum talking about it.

Overall I like the profile, weight and stiffness of the wheel; it's a good all around set IMO. My only caution about it is that these are hookless rims and you should only use approved tires. These wheels are really for someone committed to tubeless tires.

I can't say much for the Fulcrum and Reynolds but on the surface are about 100g heavier. You'll want to take stock of where and how you ride when you decide. Reason being is that the Fulcrum's are 55mm in depth and may not be the best choice if you do a lot of climbing or riding in winds.
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Just to throw another brand/model at you to consider. I think this might be what I'd get were I to go disc-braked:
https://www.ffwdwheels.com/road/full...incher/ryot-44
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I'm also running the 303S - love 'em, but they're not for everyone.

Ask yourself if you're committed to tubeless and then what kind of tire width you'd like to run.

The Fulcrum are a little narrow for my taste, in terms of a modern rim profile. If you're a 25mm tire kind of person, they might be right up your alley, though.

I had the predecessors to the Reynolds AR41, the Assaults. I liked them while I had them, but wanted to go wider (they were 17mm internal). I'm sure that the AR41 are a good choice if you're not committed to tubeless.
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Originally Posted by panuelos View Post
Hello, cureently i am looking at those 3 carbon wheels; Fulcrum wind 55db, zipp303s and reynolds ar41db.

Anyone tried any of those and can tell me
more which one i should go with?

Also open to other recommendations around 1300-1400$. (1000-1200€)

Thank you
If one of those wheel sets was currently on sale for < $950, would that tip the scales?
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Bontrager Aeolus Pro 37's or the Pro 51's are very nice wheels, inside that price range, I have a set of both at the moment, these are disc wheels. The Pro 3 or Pro 5's are rim brake. I also have a set of the Pro 5's on my Emonda rim brake bike.
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The fulcrums are a lot deeper than the other two. If you want an aero wheel that would be the choice. The other two are more all-round wheels.
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Get spinergy rev x wheels they probably won't explode
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Fulcrums paired with 25mm tires for aerodynamics and speed (would be my first choice, plus I have had Fulcrum wheels before and was satisfied), or if you want wider tires and an all-around wheel them the Zipps or Reynolds.


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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
If one of those wheel sets was currently on sale for < $950, would that tip the scales?
Maybe a bit yea but mostly looking for something that performs best in that price range.
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I'm very impressed with the Zipp 303s. I'm sure the other wheels on your list are great too, but I can confirm that the Zipp 303S felt like a massive upgrade over my stock alloy wheelset. They feel lighter than the scale suggests (1544g on my scale with tape, no valves). 28mm tubeless tires are a perfect combo with the 23mm I.D. for road. They also feel very light and fast with 33mm CX tires. I've been surprised at how much easier it is to set up tubeless tires on these wheels vs other rims I have.

The Zipp 303s rim is hookless and therefore require tubeless-ready tires that are approved for hookless rims. There are a lot of choices, so I wouldn't let that worry you. Yes, you can run these with tubes (per the other thread on this topic) but that somewhat defeats the purpose. If you are set on sticking with tubes, a hooked rim wheelset that allows you to run traditional clinchers makes more sense. If you are committed to tubeless, the Zipp 303S is hard to beat in this price range.

Zipp 303S + GP5000 S TR's make for a killer combo:
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Originally Posted by msu2001la View Post
I'm very impressed with the Zipp 303s. I'm sure the other wheels on your list are great too, but I can confirm that the Zipp 303S felt like a massive upgrade over my stock alloy wheelset. They feel lighter than the scale suggests (1544g on my scale with tape, no valves). 28mm tubeless tires are a perfect combo with the 23mm I.D. for road. They also feel very light and fast with 33mm CX tires. I've been surprised at how much easier it is to set up tubeless tires on these wheels vs other rims I have.

The Zipp 303s rim is hookless and therefore require tubeless-ready tires that are approved for hookless rims. There are a lot of choices, so I wouldn't let that worry you. Yes, you can run these with tubes (per the other thread on this topic) but that somewhat defeats the purpose. If you are set on sticking with tubes, a hooked rim wheelset that allows you to run traditional clinchers makes more sense. If you are committed to tubeless, the Zipp 303S is hard to beat in this price range.

Zipp 303S + GP5000 S TR's make for a killer combo
The TRs are going well, then?

Yeah, I've set up multiple tubeless wheelsets and the 303S have been, by far, the easiest. I have a Specialized blast canister for setting beads, but I've never been terribly happy with it. When I got the 303S, I tried setting the tires with just the floor pump, for ***** and giggles - they snapped right on, as have every tire set since. I had been intending to buy a new pump/charger, so the Zipps saved me about $120
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The TRs are going well, then?

Yeah, I've set up multiple tubeless wheelsets and the 303S have been, by far, the easiest. I have a Specialized blast canister for setting beads, but I've never been terribly happy with it. When I got the 303S, I tried setting the tires with just the floor pump, for ***** and giggles - they snapped right on, as have every tire set since. I had been intending to buy a new pump/charger, so the Zipps saved me about $120
Oh yeah, zero complaints on those tires (other than paying full MSRP for the latest and greatest...). Just eyeballing the width, the 28mm printed size on the S TR's mounted on Zipp 303s look to be identical in size to the 32mm Conti 5000 TL's that I have mounted on another narrower rim. I was worried the 28's would feel too skinny, but they're perfect.

Concur on the need (or lack thereof) to use a charger canister. I had gotten in the habit of always using one on my other wheels, but was able to mount tires on the Zipps using just the floor pump. That's good because I was initially freaked out about potentially exceeding the wheel's PSI limit when using the charger canister - although my LBS says I don't need to worry about this as long as I lower the PSI after the beads pop into place.
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I am also now considering Fulcrum wind 40 DB or maybe even roval rapide Cl38. Any thoughts on those ?
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I am also now considering Fulcrum wind 40 DB or maybe even roval rapide Cl38. Any thoughts on those ?
With these additions, my thoughts are: if you're considering 5 sets of wheels, you don't know what you want in wheels.

You're going about this backwards - prioritize what's important to you and then get something that fits those needs/desires best.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
With these additions, my thoughts are: if you're considering 5 sets of wheels, you don't know what you want in wheels.

You're going about this backwards - prioritize what's important to you and then get something that fits those needs/desires best.
Well i am mostly looking for something all rounder, but also that they are able to take hills very good since here we dont have flat roads.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
With these additions, my thoughts are: if you're considering 5 sets of wheels, you don't know what you want in wheels.

You're going about this backwards - prioritize what's important to you and then get something that fits those needs/desires best.
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Well i am mostly looking for something all rounder, but also that they are able to take hills very good since here we dont have flat roads.
I agree with WhyFi and going back to my original response. Think about how and where you ride before picking out wheels.

If you're looking for an all round wheelset, I'd narrow it down to the Zipp 303s, Scribe Aero Wide 42 and Reynolds AR41 DB if you're looking to stay in that $1400 budget. I'd keep it rim depth to no more than 50mm in depth due to weight and crosswind considerations.

On the Scribes, I have a pair of Aero Wide 38's from a previous build. If you're willing to put with some of shipping lead time from them, they're quite robust but find them to be heavier than advertised.
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what level of hills, like steep mountains or rolling hills. If steep, I would thing something shallower less than 30mm would be best, if rolling, 35mm-ish or less would be a better option, don't really need a deeper wheel for either of them.
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what level of hills, like steep mountains or rolling hills. If steep, I would thing something shallower less than 30mm would be best, if rolling, 35mm-ish or less would be a better option, don't really need a deeper wheel for either of them.
In 50-60km ride there is usually around 1000m of elevation gain. We have some steeps climbs i like to do with 7-10% grade with 10km distance. Also in summer i like to tackle hills with 13% average with 15-20km distance so from what i learned i should be opting for around 35-40mm depth rims.

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Another consideration that was a factor for me is the warranty. I don't know how other brands handle things, but Zipp's lifetime warranty is very robust. They cover the usual defects but they also cover crash damage, rock/pothole strikes, etc, even from crashes that occur during races.
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I am not sure but I THINK that the hookless beads would make for easier tire changes/tube insertions. That itself is a big improvement if you are running tubeless on the road. I run my front tire tubeless now but not the rear. With hooks, it is often much harder to change tires and a real pain on the side of the road. If hookless makes it easier and it seems like it would, I'd have to vote for the Zipps. The 303 is a good depth and I generally think that Zipp warranty is solid. I'm not crazy about their hubs but they seem to have improved a lot lately, and it isn't like the other brands with their own hubs, are any different. Of the ones you listed, I'd definitely go with Zipps.
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I am not sure but I THINK that the hookless beads would make for easier tire changes/tube insertions. That itself is a big improvement if you are running tubeless on the road. I run my front tire tubeless now but not the rear. With hooks, it is often much harder to change tires and a real pain on the side of the road. If hookless makes it easier and it seems like it would, I'd have to vote for the Zipps. The 303 is a good depth and I generally think that Zipp warranty is solid. I'm not crazy about their hubs but they seem to have improved a lot lately, and it isn't like the other brands with their own hubs, are any different. Of the ones you listed, I'd definitely go with Zipps.
I don't know if it has anything to do with hooked/hookless, but it's WAY easier to mount and set up tubeless tires on my Zipp 303s than it is any other "tubeless ready" wheelset I've owned. The two tires I've installed (28mm GP 5000 S TR and 33mm Donnely PDX) have both gone on relatively easy and seated with a floor pump.
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I am not sure but I THINK that the hookless beads would make for easier tire changes/tube insertions. That itself is a big improvement if you are running tubeless on the road. I run my front tire tubeless now but not the rear. With hooks, it is often much harder to change tires and a real pain on the side of the road. If hookless makes it easier and it seems like it would, I'd have to vote for the Zipps. The 303 is a good depth and I generally think that Zipp warranty is solid. I'm not crazy about their hubs but they seem to have improved a lot lately, and it isn't like the other brands with their own hubs, are any different. Of the ones you listed, I'd definitely go with Zipps.
Not sure I'd want to ride on tubes inside hookless wheels.
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The Zipp 303S is a decent value, compared to something like the 303 Firecrest, that really gets pricey.

I ride in the mountains where winds can get high and there are lots of rocks on the roadside to hit, so I bought Fulcrum racing 3 wheels for only about $500 per pair that require no rim tape. I use 28mm tubeless tires. If I ruin a rim, it will be a lot cheaper to replace. I've only used Michelin 28mm tubeless so far. They weren't hard to install and I've practiced taking one side off to install a tube for repair. No problem.

I've also looked at a few of the lower profile carbon rims at lightbicycle.com. A complete wheelset with Bitex hubs is usually under $1000. Wheelset weight is significantly less than the lower priced Zipps. They offer wheels that require no rim tape, too.

Another high quality wheel to consider is a Campagnolo Shamal. It's a good in-between width and will work with tubes or tubeless.

https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Whe...bon_disc_brake

https://ciclimattio.com/en/p/campagn...xoClCsQAvD_BwE

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IMO, ~$1,300 carbon wheels are the sweetspot right now. To me, there's simply no reason to buy the $3K+ wheels any more.

Good options above, also some direct-sales brands have come along way in recent years:
Lun Hyper:
https://www.winspace.cc/lunwheels

Farsports:
https://www.farsports.com/road-carbon-wheels

Hunt:
https://us.huntbikewheels.com/collec...aterial=Carbon

Lots of friends of mine have wheels from these brands and really like them. I've also heard good things about ICAN and Lightbicycle wheels.

I have a set of Farsports wheels that have been great. I'll be buying a set of the 65mm disc Hypers this year.
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