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First impressions of GP5000 from longtime Gatorskin user

Old 03-14-22, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
These "debates" are as much informative as cable debates on the HIFI forums. PPL will duke it out for days over literally non existent differences. Now, Im not saying any tyre is the same. Obviously they are not, but subjective impressions are highly susceptible to all kinds of bias and clams should be taken with more than a pinch of salt.

Why is it no one publish any data to support the claims of highly improved "comfort" when is should be easy measuring vibration acceleration with different tyres at the same pressure over the same streach of road with the same speed? Even a phone can do that!
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Old 03-14-22, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
Maybe it isnt all that funny after all. At road pressures there are no "supple" tyres. They are all "frozen garden hoses" and any inherent suppleness that can be felt fondling a tyre off the bike is completely swamped at 80 psi. Maybe some one should quantify just how much pressure difference would completely negate the difference between a claimed supple tyre and not supple tyre. I bet you its not much, as suppleness and comfort is mostly pressure related to begin with, - except maybe outside of the most extreme anti puncture tyres like marathon plus and such.
I would disagree with this. And the easiest way to tell the difference between tires is to ride with something like gator skins and move to something else.
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Comparing GP5000 to Gatorskin is like comparing a Porsche Boxter to a Jeep Wrangler. They're designed for different purposes. For speed and handling, the GP5000 is one of the best tires available. For durability and long life, the Gatorskin is one of the best tires available. Unfortunately, you cannot simultaneously have indestructible durability and supple speed in the same tire, so you have to choose one priority or the other.
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Originally Posted by bbbean
Comparing GP5000 to Gatorskin is like comparing a Porsche Boxter to a Jeep Wrangler. They're designed for different purposes. For speed and handling, the GP5000 is one of the best tires available. For durability and long life, the Gatorskin is one of the best tires available. Unfortunately, you cannot simultaneously have indestructible durability and supple speed in the same tire, so you have to choose one priority or the other.
well said
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Originally Posted by jaxgtr
Anything, and I mean anything, will feel more supple and comfortable than the Gatorskins.
My bike with 30mm Gatorskins feels more comfortable than my bike with 23mm Mich Pro Race 4.

Of course I'm being facetious, I am aware that tire width trumps almost anything as far as comfort goes. I like the Pro Race better than comparable cheap 23's I replaced with them many years ago. On the other hand, I've never felt similar size Gatorskins to be awful.
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Try some 32mm if your bike allows.

Gatorskins, much like the Bontrager Hard Case lites are like wrapping a garden house around your wheel.
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I run ordinary GPs. Half the price of GP5000 (which I have not tried) but more puncture resistant (per bicyclerollingresistance.com), and in my experience way more comfortable than the Gatorskins at the same width and pressure.

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I have a dual 26" Ti recumbent bike. Regular GP is my tire of choice IMHO the best 26" road tire made.
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I’m liking the gp 5000 tr’s so far. The roads are pretty messy around here at the moment and no issues to report so far. It’s early days but I’m happy I opted for them.
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Originally Posted by Symox
ended up ordering a gp5000 for the front too.

Geesh, this site is a bad influence
Uh, it took you 468 posts to figure that out. Kind of slow on the uptake, huh?
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
...pros race on single digit PSI tubulars in cyclocross.
Asked in ignorance.... single digit PSI on ~33mm tubulars? Wow.
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Originally Posted by iterax
I run ordinary GPs. Half the price of GP5000 (which I have not tried) but more puncture resistant (per bicyclerollingresistance.com), and in my experience way more comfortable than the Gatorskins at the same width and pressure.
I originally bought a pair of ordinary GP (no trailing numbers) to use as a pair, but ended up installing one on the rear with a GP 5000 in the front when I found that the two are similarly wide. Ordinary GP are getting hard to find.
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Originally Posted by prj71
Me either. That's why I run GP5000

Same here , thats why I run tubeless GP5000s
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for me, it doesn't take long to switch out tires. I can run anything, within a few minutes
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Originally Posted by Symox
ended up ordering a gp5000 for the front too.

Geesh, this site is a bad influence
That's how you know you are doing it correct, when it feels bad it must be good!
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used them in a light drizzle

handled superbly

this is my new tire

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Old 04-15-22, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by HTupolev
The worst thing about Gatorskins is that they last a really long time.
Reminds of a line in a movie about a restaurant:

"The food is just awful"
"Then why do you keep going there?"
"The portions are so big!"
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Like almost all the opinions on gear on this website, the opinions here are mainly highly subjective. People like certain tires over others. I do, too. But the only thing I can really determine with any accuracy is how many flats I get. On some tires I've ridden, I've gotten no flats at all. On others a few and on some a lot. As to qualities like grip and handling,I wonder how one can determine these qualities. Do people turn corners and the bike slides out from under them and they crash? Softness of ride can be felt, but as some posters have said, inflation has a lot to do with that quality. In the long run, whatever tires a rider uses are really dependent on what that rider likes. I'd like to see some blind tests to determine such qualities as tire performance. I don't think I could tell the difference between the various performance levels is such tests. But that's just me. I imagine some riders are more perceptive than I am. But as far as puncture resistance, your experience will easily tell which tires get fewer punctures.
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went on one of my favorite hill rides after a rain. light patches of wet cement and the tires handles beautifully. I wasn't brave enough to go don't the hill at my normal speed, but pretty close to it. Plus I had some cars come up while going down so I had to do some "emergency" braking

Anyway, I really am impressed with these tires. They roll better, have better grip are lighter and just "feel" better than the gatorskins. longevity and flat resistance remain to be seen...
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I tried doing blind tests, but I kept riding into things.
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I tried doing blind tests, but I kept riding into things.
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Absolutely love the GP 5000s

Just wanted to update that Ive been putting on the miles and am very impressed. It will take a lot to get me to switch tires now
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late to the party - so please forgive me if this has been covered already

GP5000 - Gatorskin

I believe the GP4S would sit between the GP5000 and the Gatorskin ... ??? ... (in the Continental line)

GP4S should weigh less and roll better than the Gatorskin - but still offer better durability and puncture protection than the GP5000 ... ???

( Ultra Sport is a great low cost alternative to GP5000 - but does not significant increase in durability or puncture protection (if at all ?) )

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Originally Posted by t2p
late to the party - so please forgive me if this has been covered already

GP5000 - Gatorskin

I believe the GP4S would sit between the GP5000 and the Gatorskin ... ??? ... (in the Continental line)

GP4S should weigh less and roll better than the Gatorskin - but still offer better durability and puncture protection than the GP5000 ... ???

( Ultra Sport is a great low cost alternative to GP5000 - but does not significant increase in durability or puncture protection (if at all ?) )
Yes. I used to run GP4S as a compromise tire. I also liked them for somewhat wet conditions- they are pretty grippy. They are not a performance tire, but they don't have the "hose filled with cement" feel of Gatorskins. In those days, there was no GP5000, and I had such rotten luck with the GP4000s (sidewall cuts) that I had sworn them off too. I love the GP5000s for their performance, and though they also have rather thin side walls, I've been lucky and had no issue after, I dunno, almost 20 k miles running them. (No, not same actual tires for 20 k)
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