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Old 03-20-22, 01:06 PM
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If you don't use the support and it is public roads just go ride. It is not a big deal just avoid any common starting and finishing places. To pay $150 is a lot to ride a bike and a charity ride to me depends on what charity it is for? I can think of charity providers I do not care for and others who are at the central part of real charity. I seem to have different attitude about it than most post here but practically you are just out riding a bike. I have been and cross paths with organized rides with no intent to ride them, they happen to be in my riding territory.
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Old 03-20-22, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Don't whine. The cost of this charity ride is NOT a financial barrier to the sport, because you can go ride somewhere else that day for free.
uhh the high cost of organized road rides is definitely a financial barrier. All the local crits around here are 30$+ and most of the money seems to go to overhead costs. In contrast races in the city are free or 5$ which goes towards beer for everyone at the end.
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Old 03-20-22, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TakingMyTime View Post
Although I wouldn't. Call the organizers and see if there's some kind of "hardship" discount for people in your position. As far as not using any of their services... if you don't have a number on your jersey they probably won't let you eat their food or drink their water.
imagine denying water to a thirsty person lol. Iíll take their water they will be OK
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Old 03-20-22, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
and the average income of the riders around me is so much higher that it doesnít make sense to me that I should be paying the same as them.
So, should you be charged lower prices for bikes and tires and chain lube, too?
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Old 03-20-22, 01:30 PM
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Larry's posting MO:

Hey guys, there is this thing I want to do that seems dickish and/or I've been told it's dickish. Is it dickish?

Everyone on the forums - yes it's dickish.

Larry proceeds to argue and justify and the thread goes off the rails.

Wonder how this thread will go?
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Old 03-20-22, 01:40 PM
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Charity rides up the danger level, best avoided.
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Old 03-20-22, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by popeye View Post
Charity rides up the danger level, best avoided.
Especially ones that allow crazy non-registrants with with aero-bars made from copper tubing to ride and "mix it up" with them.
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Old 03-20-22, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
uhh the high cost of organized road rides is definitely a financial barrier. All the local crits around here are 30$+ and most of the money seems to go to overhead costs. In contrast races in the city are free or 5$ which goes towards beer for everyone at the end.
Just don't participate I the expe alive charity rides. They are for charities...do you really expect them to be inexpensive?

Stick to the races you mention. Or ride for free on any given day.
Affording charity rides is not a barrier to the sport.
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Old 03-20-22, 01:58 PM
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Gran Fondue, Century Riders, and other Poseurs are obnoxious.

Two or three times I have been out on my nearly daily training route and locals roads that my tax dollars pave and a group of these morons pass me and yell at me for poaching their ride, a ride on my roads. These group rides love my township roads. We locals hate them.

Larry, IIRC, you are quite poor. Do what you feel is right. I would not poach the ride but personally if I was entered, I would not care if a really poor person like you joined as long as you didn't take the lousy food and warm water.
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Old 03-20-22, 02:11 PM
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For that $150 cost, Larry could buy two (2) cases of MD 20/20 plus a few bags of pork rinds. No shirt or other etiquette required.
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Old 03-20-22, 02:26 PM
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What kind of liability insurance are you carrying?

There generally are liability wavers. And the ride may carry some kind of blanket insurance. But, an interloper wouldn't necessarily be covered.

So, if you cause a crash and damage a $10K bicycle, send a person to the hospital, and perhaps cause long term disability, then you could be liable.
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Old 03-20-22, 02:32 PM
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It’s a charity ride, not a Larry Sellerz ride. You are not the charity.

Don’t be a dick.
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Old 03-20-22, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
What kind of liability insurance are you carrying?

There generally are liability wavers. And the ride may carry some kind of blanket insurance. But, an interloper wouldn't necessarily be covered.

So, if you cause a crash and damage a $10K bicycle, send a person to the hospital, and perhaps cause long term disability, then you could be liable.
Yes, but according to his logic, he would only have to pay $10 for the bike, and nothing more than a Band-Aid and maybe a cane. He can't afford to pay a full entry fee and expects a discount, so why should he be expected to pay in full for any damages he may cause?
(Switching sarcasm off now.)
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Old 03-20-22, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
uhh the high cost of organized road rides is definitely a financial barrier. All the local crits around here are 30$+ and most of the money seems to go to overhead costs. In contrast races in the city are free or 5$ which goes towards beer for everyone at the end.
You can still ride your own rides for free. Stop it, dude. You pollute this place. Or is that your intention?
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Old 03-20-22, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
What kind of liability insurance are you carrying?

There generally are liability wavers. And the ride may carry some kind of blanket insurance. But, an interloper wouldn't necessarily be covered.

So, if you cause a crash and damage a $10K bicycle, send a person to the hospital, and perhaps cause long term disability, then you could be liable.
Canít get blood out of a turnip. Larry Sellerz donít need no stinking insurance.
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Old 03-20-22, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
So, should you be charged lower prices for bikes and tires and chain lube, too?
You're playing with fire, coyote. Next thread is going to be about how full price gator skins are a crime against Larry.
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Old 03-20-22, 03:33 PM
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There is, according to Adventure Cycling, nearly 18,000 miles of bike trails in 31 states and the District of Columbia, not to mention the many more miles of roads and other places to ride. Not sure why you have to have crap on a charity ride because you don't want to help charity. If I didn't have money to help out I just wouldn't go it is as simple as that...or I would reach out to the organizers and say "hey is there anything I can do to help you out before hand or afterwards to help this event run well. I don't have a lot of money but would like to ride and support in any way I can" They may say no just pay but like I stated earlier plenty of riding to be done elsewhere.

If you don't pay with money pay with hard work, loads of it or if you were a good person and worth fundraising for then you could try and raise more money then the entrance fee and offer to donate all of that money towards that charity and maybe still help out because it is what a good person would do.
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Old 03-20-22, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
uhh the high cost of organized road rides is definitely a financial barrier. All the local crits around here are 30$+ and most of the money seems to go to overhead costs. In contrast races in the city are free or 5$ which goes towards beer for everyone at the end.
There are many, many cyclists on this forum that ride as much or more than you and never spend a dime on organized events. Grow up.
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Old 03-20-22, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
What kind of liability insurance are you carrying?

There generally are liability wavers. And the ride may carry some kind of blanket insurance. But, an interloper wouldn't necessarily be covered.

So, if you cause a crash and damage a $10K bicycle, send a person to the hospital, and perhaps cause long term disability, then you could be liable.
lol, do people actually ask someone who caused a crash to pay for their bike repairs? Donít ride with other people if you donít want to run the risk of crashing IMO.
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Old 03-20-22, 04:26 PM
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Their insurance companies will go after you for their medical repairs.

But you already knew that: Weird rules for the group ride
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Old 03-20-22, 04:28 PM
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If you have to ask then you already know the answer.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post

Is doing this frowned on?
It's definitely not cool. What do your buddies say? Are they cool with you tagging along without paying like they had to?
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Old 03-20-22, 04:37 PM
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I feel like there's a word for availing yourself to goods and/or services that you didn't pay for, but I just can't think of the term...
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark View Post
Their insurance companies will go after you for their medical repairs.

But you already knew that: Weird rules for the group ride
Larry is most likely judgment proof, that is, doesnít have anything that can be taken away to be sold to pay the damages. Insurance companies wonít waste money chasing a turnip. If there is a good side of being poor, itís that you donít have to give a sheit about how your actions may impact others.

As for Larryís question, I once ran into another rider. The collision caused my bike damage, but none immediately noticeable on the other. I told the guy to get it checked out, and if there was anything that needed attention I would pay the bill. In my sailboat racing days, I made contact with another boat and did the same thing. Virtually everybody I know would do the same if they caused damage to someone elseís property, whether a bike or something else.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
I feel like there's a word for availing yourself to goods and/or services that you didn't pay for, but I just can't think of the term...
Deadbeat, scammer, thief, crook, a-hole. . ..

Any of those refresh your memory?
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