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Cleanest way to exit a paceline

Old 03-29-22, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
I would defer to the mods, but my impression is it's because it can fan the flames of drama, possibly?
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Depends on how long it was aged.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
...mumble mumble mumble... Alberto Contador... mumble mumble mumble...
How dare you! He has a medical condition!
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Ideally, you wait until you take your pull and then just don't jump back on the back again. This, of course, is hard to time in long pacelines, so the second choice is to signal your exit and try to sprint up alongside the person in front of you so the person behind you can easily catch up. This, of course, is not easy when you've already blown up. The last choice is to just raise your hand and everyone will know to go around you, mumbling obscenities at you for making them close the gap.
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Originally Posted by ls01
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Originally Posted by Bob Ross
So in other words, it's not "the easiest place to be"
Could be he's comparing that to the back of the pack, where you keep yo-yoing and have to repeatedly burn matches to catch up again.?
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If it's a true rotating paceline, the simplest and safest thing is to take your turn then rotate to the back. When you get to the end of the line moving back, just don't move over into the line moving up. Announce to the riders in front of you that you need a break and are just going to sit on for a bit. (Advanced variation: when you get to the back, sit on the opposite side of the rotation so that the rider who's in front will look over, not see anyone, think they're the end of the line, and they'll move into to up line.) The main thing is to not disrupt the flow or to do anything weird or squirrelly.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Could be he's comparing that to the back of the pack, where you keep yo-yoing and have to repeatedly burn matches to catch up again.?
yes
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Originally Posted by gpburdell
Vertically via the next skyhook.
With or without the bike?
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
With or without the bike?
the polite method is with the bike…

though if the group has been harassing you then perhaps one might “accidentally” unclip….
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Originally Posted by caloso
If it's a true rotating paceline, the simplest and safest thing is to take your turn then rotate to the back. When you get to the end of the line moving back, just don't move over into the line moving up. Announce to the riders in front of you that you need a break and are just going to sit on for a bit. (Advanced variation: when you get to the back, sit on the opposite side of the rotation so that the rider who's in front will look over, not see anyone, think they're the end of the line, and they'll move into to up line.) The main thing is to not disrupt the flow or to do anything weird or squirrelly.
it wasn’t a true paceline I’m dumb, it’s a huge unorganized blob. I’ve found one squirly movement to get out seems OK, sitting up and letting everyone filter around me seems OK too but neither are great
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Originally Posted by gpburdell
the polite method is with the bike…

though if the group has been harassing you then perhaps one might “accidentally” unclip….
I have not gone clipless yet -- I am still riding on a pair of RaceFace AEffect (flat pedals with spikes) -- so if I get skyhooked I may not be strong enough to hold onto my bike.
My hands and arms are not that strong, and I definitely cannot clench my bum around the thin part of the saddle for all that long.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
it wasn’t a true paceline I’m dumb, it’s a huge unorganized blob. I’ve found one squirly movement to get out seems OK, sitting up and letting everyone filter around me seems OK too but neither are great
Don't sit up, keep pedaling, but throttle back and people will just filter around. Much safer to drift to the back that way than making a sudden lateral movement.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I think that there are a couple of reasons. It's partly to quarantine a beef to one thread instead of letting it spread to many. It's also a measure against recruitment from one thread to another by people actively looking for others to help pile on.
As a professional writer I habitually cite and cross-reference my source materials, although I understand the moderator's objective and need to cut certain threads off.

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In this case, well, I dunno. It's kind of hard to ignore the OP's history, the earnestness of which is suspect, at best.
Come on, really? You must read LarrySellerz as fan fiction, especially if he is the OP.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
I’ve found one squirly movement to get out seems OK, sitting up and letting everyone filter around me seems OK too but neither are great
No, one squirrelly move is not okay.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Don't sit up, keep pedaling, but throttle back and people will just filter around. Much safer to drift to the back that way than making a sudden lateral movement.
This. If you did it in a paceline, it would be bad, but in a big amorphous pack ride, others will just swarm around you. Just work hard enough that your speed drops off gradually, rather than blowing up and going backwards fast in the middle of the pack.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
Come on, really? You must read LarrySellerz as fan fiction, especially if he is the OP.
Yeah, I know, but I'm hesitant to give that much credit. Genuine obliviousness seems to be the more simple explanation.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Don't sit up, keep pedaling, but throttle back and people will just filter around. Much safer to drift to the back that way than making a sudden lateral movement.
ugh I feel like such a jerk doing this but I guess yeah filtering past a slow rider isn’t that cumbersome. My “squirrely sudden lateral movements” are always accompanied by a hand signal of atleast 1 second before moving, but once I heard a “woah” from behind me when leaving a pack I was blowing up in (single speed on descent) which wasn’t fun to hear.

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It’s a lot less jerky than swinging out. Also, if you flat in the middle of the pack, that’s also how to handle it: put your hand up, yell “flat! flat!” and hold your line while you let people filter around you. Once the pack clears you, pull to the shoulder and come to a stop. Nice and easy, especially if it’s a front flat.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
I have not gone clipless yet -- I am still riding on a pair of RaceFace AEffect (flat pedals with spikes) -- so if I get skyhooked I may not be strong enough to hold onto my bike.
My hands and arms are not that strong, and I definitely cannot clench my bum around the thin part of the saddle for all that long.
Yes, if not clipped in then it could indeed be challenging to retain the bike.

Particularly if you've not exercised your gluteal muscles sufficiently to maintain a good grip on your saddle.

Definitely something to consider before grabbing a skyhook for a quick exit from the paceline.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
it wasn’t a true paceline I’m dumb, it’s a huge unorganized blob. I’ve found one squirly movement to get out seems OK, sitting up and letting everyone filter around me seems OK too but neither are great
Ah, in that case you do indeed just raise your hand and slow down. The others will go around you.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
ugh I feel like such a jerk doing this but I guess yeah filtering past a slow rider isn’t that cumbersome. My “squirrely sudden lateral movements” are always accompanied by a hand signal of atleast 1 second before moving, but once I heard a “woah” from behind me when leaving a pack I was blowing up in (single speed on descent) which wasn’t fun to hear.
You should NEVER make ANY lateral moves without first looking to make sure it's clean and you won't take out someone's front wheel. THEN you signal. To repeat, NEVER move sideways in a pack without first looking.
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
You should NEVER make ANY lateral moves without first looking to make sure it's clean and you won't take out someone's front wheel. THEN you signal. To repeat, NEVER move sideways in a pack without first looking.
I know, I look, still not the greatest
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
You should NEVER make ANY lateral moves without first looking to make sure it's clean and you won't take out someone's front wheel. THEN you signal. To repeat, NEVER move sideways in a pack without first looking.
I find it quite difficult to avoid a slight lateral deviation when looking behind over my shoulder. Just as well that I don't ride in a pack.
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