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Your opinion on Ceramicspeed OSP

Old 05-23-22, 03:15 PM
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Your opinion on Ceramicspeed OSP

I've a new road build with SRAM Red and have received a free NIB Ceramicspeed OSP. I wouldn't have paid for the OSP, but took it since it was offered free. My question is, would you use the OSP or sell it for $450?
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Sell it or trade for something I would get more benefit or enjoyment from.
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Sell. Maybe 0.1 watt advantage over the SRAM Red AXS stock pulley or maybe none.

Use the money for the best tires. 3-10 watts advantage over run of the mill tires.
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I would sell it for sure as it's complete BS bling. But I'm far more curious how you got it for free?
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
I would sell it for sure as it's complete BS bling. But I'm far more curious how you got it for free?
I was taking some time to consider the deal and the salesman thought he needed to sweeten the pot!
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Originally Posted by AcesHigh007
I was taking some time to consider the deal and the salesman thought he needed to sweeten the pot!
Ah I see thanks. Get it sold and buy something useful instead.
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Originally Posted by AcesHigh007
I've a new road build with SRAM Red and have received a free NIB Ceramicspeed OSP. I wouldn't have paid for the OSP, but took it since it was offered free. My question is, would you use the OSP or sell it for $450?
Sell that contraption and spend the proceeds on other bike bits.
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Sell it, buy other cool stuff. Or beer.

I've got a bling looking AliExpress OSPW and it does make the cranks spin more freely. Likely worth zero watts in reality.
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Keep it.
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If you don't need the money for something else keep it and stick it on. It may not do much, but it won't hurt anything. My guess is that the amount you get for it won't be material to you.
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The real question is what do you want to do with it.

If you sell it will you always feel bad that you didn't try it? Or, will you be frustrated thinking you didn't get enough for it? Or will you be that seller that never sells because you value it more than others making offers.
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If it was mine, I’d leave it in the box and store it with my Beanie Baby collection. Both will be worth a lot some day.
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It looks cool. Keep it if you don't need the $$$$
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Originally Posted by Iride01
The real question is what do you want to do with it.

If you sell it will you always feel bad that you didn't try it? Or, will you be frustrated thinking you didn't get enough for it? Or will you be that seller that never sells because you value it more than others making offers.
Don't forget to include the person that does not sell because the marginal gain realized from selling is just not worth the time or hassle it takes to sell.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Don't forget to include the person that does not sell because the marginal gain realized from selling is just not worth the time or hassle it takes to sell.
To be pedantic, a "marginal gain" is what you get from running this contraption on your bike. The time and hassle required to sell it are "transactional costs."
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Don't forget to include the person that does not sell because the marginal gain realized from selling is just not worth the time or hassle it takes to sell.
No, I can't do that because you might be describing me!

And giving one of the reason my garage is so full of useless to me stuff that I somehow think might come in useful one day.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
To be pedantic, a "marginal gain" is what you get from running this contraption on your bike. The time and hassle required to sell it are "transactional costs."
To be more pedantic, the time and hassle are transactional costs, but the amount received from the sale is the "gain." And, that gain could be marginal or even worthless to some people.
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Originally Posted by AcesHigh007
I've a new road build with SRAM Red and have received a free NIB Ceramicspeed OSP. I wouldn't have paid for the OSP, but took it since it was offered free. My question is, would you use the OSP or sell it for $450?
Sell it. I'm a time trial person. This is one of those last blood out of the turnip kind of things, and only really truly works in specific scenarios.

I get all their marketing mumbo jumbo, but bottom line is the chain bend radius stuff works best if you're in a straighter chainline and have a pretty massive front chainring and run a slightly larger rear cog for the same speed.

In other words........flat out mostly in the 13/14/15/16 cogs in a 12-25 cassette and using a 53T or much much larger front ring on a TT bike.

Otherwise.....nah. I'd pass. It can make for less desireable shifting. You don't shift much in a time trial or triathlon, you shift a lot on a road bike. So infer from that what you will about a "best use case".

If you're dead set on it but want an affordable compromise, companies now sell just the wheels that fit an original R8000 or R9100 rear derailleur cage. At a lot lower cost and probably less issues with shifting. I went that way on the TT bike, original Di2 cage......slightly larger wheels.
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Not even Philippo Ganna has one on his TT bike.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
To be more pedantic, the time and hassle are transactional costs, but the amount received from the sale is the "gain." And, that gain could be marginal or even worthless to some people.
Well the OP thought it was worth enough to ask the question here.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Well the OP thought it was worth enough to ask the question here.
He's also flush enough to buy a bike that cost in the higher 4 figures.
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Hi All, Thanks for the great responses and thoughts. I'll probably sell it but still have a few weeks to decide. We'll see. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
He's also flush enough to buy a bike that cost in the higher 4 figures.
I realise that, but it doesn't mean that $450 is not worth considering. Especially if someone actually bothers to ask the question.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Not even Philippo Ganna has one on his TT bike.
Results using the parts being debatable, this statement ignores contractual obligations involving said teams or individuals.

I'm not super convinced of the whole replaced derailleur cage and massive jockey wheels. But feel like at least the Ultegra/Dura Ace wheels are better, and perhaps if you don't shift much replacement wheels that are just a hair larger might have the slightest effect.

The reason in TT sometimes it isn't a thing is the huge wheels mean longer cages and longer cages means less aero. The SLF style cages can re-balance that loss. Perhaps.

But's a pretty weak argument to make to say "this or that person don't run it so it must not work". I'd instead lean upon all the inconclusive data that's out there.
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep
Results using the parts being debatable, this statement ignores contractual obligations involving said teams or individuals.

I'm not super convinced of the whole replaced derailleur cage and massive jockey wheels. But feel like at least the Ultegra/Dura Ace wheels are better, and perhaps if you don't shift much replacement wheels that are just a hair larger might have the slightest effect.

The reason in TT sometimes it isn't a thing is the huge wheels mean longer cages and longer cages means less aero. The SLF style cages can re-balance that loss. Perhaps.

But's a pretty weak argument to make to say "this or that person don't run it so it must not work". I'd instead lean upon all the inconclusive data that's out there.
If there was really any worthwhile advantage here, don't you think Shimano/SRAM/Campag would be on to it anyway? The one thing you can say is that not having over-sized pulley wheels certainly isn't going to hold you back in any meaningful way. I love tech, but these are a joke - especially given the price. I would struggle to think of a worse ROI.
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