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Old 08-20-22, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by koala logs View Post
Sunscreen feels awful on the skin
Buy better sunscreen.
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Old 08-20-22, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
i dont sweat as much and dont ruin a shirt, also i like the feeling of the wind. My back is very red but its gotten used to it
I'm still skeptical if any of this is for real, but if it is, you need to realize skin cancer, especially around here (Bay Area) is a huge problem. Don't take this risk.

I wear long-sleeve summer (cool) jerseys. They actually keep me cooler than short sleeve ones or arm protectors.
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Old 08-20-22, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark View Post
I'm still skeptical if any of this is for real, but if it is, you need to realize skin cancer, especially around here (Bay Area) is a huge problem. Don't take this risk.

I wear long-sleeve summer (cool) jerseys. They actually keep me cooler than short sleeve ones or arm protectors.
no shirt would keep you cooler than all of that, and since i commute 5 days a week most of my riding is not done when the sun is harsh.
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Old 08-20-22, 01:11 PM
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Not if it is reflective. Good to avoid peak UV (about 1pm here).
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Old 08-20-22, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
My group is a no drop group, but in Larry’s case we might make an exception.
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that would be weird and antisocial. Is it the no shirt or no helmet? Lance doesnt wear a helmet and phil gaimon doesnt wear a shirt, would you tell them they cant ride with you?
We’ve turned them away from our rides multiple times. Honestly, I think they’re both afraid of getting dropped, so they show up without shirts and helmets to avoid any chance of embarrassment out on the road.
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Old 08-20-22, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
... and phil gaimon doesnt wear a shirt...
Oh? That's not what his tan lines (or sponsors) say.

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Old 08-20-22, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Are those no drop rides "nobody goes off the back" rides, or "we regroup often" rides?

I do both and before each ride the ride leader lets everyone know the rules of the ride. I don't mind rides with a regroup but prefer not. on rural routes my group of friends try to never let one rider ride alone, safety in numbers kind of thing.
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Old 08-20-22, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
no shirt would keep you cooler than all of that, and since i commute 5 days a week most of my riding is not done when the sun is harsh.
Reputable brand bike-specific wear would actually feel colder on the skin than without, especially the brightly colored ones. Closely-fitting ones would even be better as long as it's not too tight that they actually start blocking the sweat pores.

The cheapest reputable bike wear brands I think is Rock Bros and Fox.

Eventually, we'll have spider silk wear and they can even provide cooling like a heat sink, even if you don't sweat. They'd be the ultimate summer sports wear but unfortunately, I'd bet they'll be super expensive only few will bother to buy until the Chinese knockoffs becomes available.
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Old 08-21-22, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by koala logs View Post
Reputable brand bike-specific wear would actually feel colder on the skin than without, especially the brightly colored ones. Closely-fitting ones would even be better as long as it's not too tight that they actually start blocking the sweat pores.

The cheapest reputable bike wear brands I think is Rock Bros and Fox.

Eventually, we'll have spider silk wear and they can even provide cooling like a heat sink, even if you don't sweat. They'd be the ultimate summer sports wear but unfortunately, I'd bet they'll be super expensive only few will bother to buy until the Chinese knockoffs becomes available.
im happy with that ive got. As far as aero and cooling benefits go no shirt is pretty darn good, up there with skinsuit.
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Old 08-21-22, 08:44 AM
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Oh? That's not what his tan lines (or sponsors) say.

I wonder what the scale says. A quick search says he's 6'1" and 148 pounds.
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Old 08-21-22, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark;22617011[b
]I'm still skeptical if any of this is for real,[/b] but if it is, you need to realize skin cancer, especially around here (Bay Area) is a huge problem. Don't take this risk.

I wear long-sleeve summer (cool) jerseys. They actually keep me cooler than short sleeve ones or arm protectors.
I can confirm that every time I've seen him, he's been shirtless.

I can also confirm about skin cancer in the Bay Area, having had a Melanoma In Situ removed from my right thigh 13 years ago.
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Old 08-21-22, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
I wonder what the scale says. A quick search says he's 6'1" and 148 pounds.
I'm too fat for this sport.
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Old 08-21-22, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey View Post
I'm too fat for this sport.
Me too. I'm an inch taller than he is and 52 pounds heavier. When I was 35 and first joined the road club I was about 75 pounds heavier than he is.
My friend is about his size and weight. He can wear a small tee shirt. Tiny shoulders and frame he was always a great climber but he's around 77 or 78 now.
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Old 08-21-22, 06:58 PM
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I haven't worn a shirt while running in many years (other than shop jersey while racing), but... running is much shorter than cycling, and finished with the sun much lower. "Getting used" to a red back sounds like poor life choices.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
As far as aero and cooling benefits go no shirt is pretty darn good, up there with skinsuit.
RChung fact check on aisle #7.
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
I wonder what the scale says. A quick search says he's 6'1" and 148 pounds.
Sounds normal to me.
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Old 09-01-22, 07:44 PM
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Are stoners among the foremost authorities on impairment thresholds?
Yes, they are. Much more reliable than non-stoners, who can be and often are ridiculously misinformed.
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Old 09-01-22, 08:17 PM
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I think the key to not being dropped is to become part of the group. To show up at the start of the rides, learn some names, learn how to ride close without being squirrelly, and to become part of whatever 'peloton' or 'breakaway' that you are in at the moment. Tell 'em "My name's Larry, but you can call me Fred", with a smile. You take so much abuse around here it's surprising that you remain so good-natured. I'm sure you can find a group that will accept you as you are, if you are actually trying to ride smoothly and courteously, and ride like a teammate, instead of a random competitor.

I used to think that riding without a shirt was kinda rude, but now that I'm 64, I do it myself. "All the more reason", I can hear the murmuring...

Just being yourself was OK, in the seventies at least, and may become OK again.
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Old 09-02-22, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredo76 View Post
I'm sure you can find a group that will accept you as you are, if you are actually trying to ride smoothly and courteously, and ride like a teammate, instead of a random competitor.
yeah some people here would be surprised to hear that im on good terms with local groups and they know I try to ride safely and smoothly.
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Old 09-03-22, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
yeah some people here would be surprised to hear that im on good terms with local groups and they know I try to ride safely and smoothly.
I’m not surprised by this. You seem like a nice enough guy.

I’m also not surprised that some of the groups don’t welcome you, as you’re inclined to do some goofy stuff at times.
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Old 09-03-22, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Broctoon View Post
I’m not surprised by this. You seem like a nice enough guy.

I’m also not surprised that some of the groups don’t welcome you, as you’re inclined to do some goofy stuff at times.
Yup. There's a difference between being amiable and being trustworthy.
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Old 09-04-22, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
im happy with that ive got. As far as aero and cooling benefits go no shirt is pretty darn good, up there with skinsuit.
You should try perfecting that with immersive waxing as touted in another thread.
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Hi! What's the thread about??
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Wow, I may have to come back here more often, now that Larry is here posting. BF used to have some really good trolls commentators, especially before they went corporate.
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Old 09-05-22, 02:23 PM
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Yeah I was engaged in a stupid pissing contest, all of those things are true but im still getting dropped
focus on riding more and less on pissing?
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