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Old 07-29-05, 11:58 PM
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I've been riding a Fuji Cross on the road, and now want dedicated road bike for 50-100 mile weekend rides. I think I want steel, but maybe something lighter (carbon?). I tried the Burley Pine Grove and loved it. Wondering whether I should try comparable priced Lemond at different LBS, or something else. Will steel be much harder up hills, than aluminum or carbon?

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Originally Posted by CommutEtc
I've been riding a Fuji Cross on the road, and now want dedicated road bike for 50-100 mile weekend rides. I think I want steel, but maybe something lighter (carbon?). I tried the Burley Pine Grove and loved it. Wondering whether I should try comparable priced Lemond at different LBS, or something else. Will steel be much harder up hills, than aluminum or carbon?
Today I test rode both a Lemond and a Burley and ended up putting a deposit down on the Burley.
It ended up being a little more that I wanted to pay, but the shop is good and will size it appropriately and I'll get better service.

The lemond tourmalet just felt a bit cheaper, the shifting wasn't very smooth and the brakes we ****ty.
THe burley felt REALLY solid! especially in climbs and on rougher road.

I'm getting the burley Pine Grove built up right now. Hopefully it'll be done in time for the tour of Napa.

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Given your riding profile and budget, steel would suit you better than aluminum. You may not be able to afford a decent carbon bike.

Burley makes fantastic bikes but I believe they're getting out of the bike business. I wouldn't let that bother me, especially if I really liked the bike.

The Lemond you want to try is the Sarthe which I really like. It's the last steel Lemond. Who knows if they'll offer it next year? It will feel different from the Burley so give it a ride.

You can't really go wrong with either of them. You might also want to check out Jamis and Bianchi.
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To each their own.. I love my Tourmalet... My componenets are 105/Ultegra mix and I think the new ones are just 105...
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I bought a LeMond Sarthe this spring and love it. It is very comfortable, stiff and it is very responsive to ride. The Sarthe is a steel frame with a carbon fiber fork, so you get some more damping on the front end than with an all-steel frame supposedly. I like the ride of this better than my late-1980's Basso and my Aluminum Specialized Allez. The Sarthe is a nice set up with Ultegra derailuers and brifters and 105 calipers. It's a sweet bike, but its not very techno-snazzy, just classic steel with modern components. Pretty good value, too.
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