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Old 11-13-22, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
I am hoping that is a joke.

If it is good, if not please nobody do that. Bad idea.
Whats wrong with putting a bike upside down, its more stable. I did that a few days ago when I brought it into the grocery store and there was wine at the front of the store that I didn't want to take any chances. Wouldn't have been necessary if I had a kick stand of course
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Old 11-13-22, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
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...just get yourself an old nylon toe strap, Larry. You can tie the front wheel to the down tube, and it steadies the bicycle better than most kickstands.

Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
I tend to break these peddling through corners
Maybe you should remove it before you ride?
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Old 11-13-22, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
That's pretty much the bottom line. There's no reason to discuss it further.

Agreed.
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Old 11-13-22, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Whats wrong with putting a bike upside down, its more stable. I did that a few days ago when I brought it into the grocery store and there was wine at the front of the store that I didn't want to take any chances. Wouldn't have been necessary if I had a kick stand of course

If you have hydraulic brakes it’s a no no. I have never seen your bike, but I am most positive you do not have hydraulic brakes. So flip it all you want.
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Old 11-13-22, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Whats wrong with putting a bike upside down, its more stable. Wouldn't have been necessary if I had a kick stand of course
My seat and hoods are not going on the ground, at least not intentionally.
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Old 11-13-22, 11:15 AM
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If it were me, I'd get a used bike for a commuter, put fat tires and a kickstand on it. Needs to be a bike with good tire clearances. I was watching bike commuters in Prague, where it's stupid to ride a road bike. Even an MTB with smooth tires would be better.
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Old 11-13-22, 03:08 PM
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Kick stands generally aren't nearly as stable as just leaning the bike on a wall, so I really don't understand the problem. Just think about it, typical kick stand supports the bike at one extra spot. Gust of wind or someone giving it a nudge and it goes down - leaning it against a wall gives a much more solid support.

As for "bike commuters should do X", meh, MTBs are stupid in traffic, imo, because they're comically wide. When commuting I want to get somewhere in comfort and relatively quickly, isn't going to be very quick if I can't lane split when the roads are clogged up, and a road bike with nice tires always gets you wherever faster, you can go do a bit of training on the way home, and a road bike just has style and panache which a hybrid or MTB doesn't have.
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Old 11-13-22, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Whats wrong with putting a bike upside down, its more stable. I did that a few days ago when I brought it into the grocery store and there was wine at the front of the store that I didn't want to take any chances. Wouldn't have been necessary if I had a kick stand of course
You can damage things like a very expensive dual control lever/STI/Ergopwer/DoubleTap...a saddle and for the growing amount of hydraulic braked bikes you can help air into the system. I would just find a spot away from the wine or use a lock and lock it up outside. If you are good with the manager at the shop and really nice I am sure they might be able to find a better spot for it. I know when I go in they will sometimes move my bike which I lock to itself using the supplied café lock and they still lift all 75 pounds of it to move it slightly away from the clementines (which is usually on display) but they never have complained and I am always nice about it and if they did come to me I would happily find a different spot.

At least where I go to shop there is plenty of space in different spots to store it and probably could even ask to put it in an unused lane if it was the right time. Plenty of spots without knocking over the Two Buck Chuck!
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Old 11-13-22, 07:18 PM
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If you are good with the manager at the shop and really nice I am sure they might be able to find a better spot for it.
Have you seen LarrySellerz's copper tubing "aero bars"? A customer could impale himself/herself. If I were the store manager any bike that contraption would not be allowed into the store, regardless of nearby merchandise.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir View Post
Have you seen LarrySellerz's copper tubing "aero bars"? A customer could impale himself/herself. If I were the store manager any bike that contraption would not be allowed into the store, regardless of nearby merchandise.
I actually haven't but yeah I wouldn't let him in with those but in situations like this I try to give useful info that someone else might read and go huh I didn't think about that because they might not know about that posters tendencies around here towards rolling with a T.

Copper tubing for aero bars is a really poor idea but I guess maybe it is not an aero bar but plumbing so the stuff from his rear end doesn't get on the riders behind him or in front of him. I think it might be useful in their case. I for one am all for keeping derrière droppings off public roads and sidewalks having had a man drop his children off at the pool right in our parking lot at work a few months ago I would much appreciate that others don't doo the same.
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Old 11-13-22, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by branko d View Post
kick stands generally aren't nearly as stable as just leaning the bike on a wall, so i really don't understand the problem....
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Old 11-13-22, 09:39 PM
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Low hanging fruit.
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Old 11-13-22, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Whats wrong with putting a bike upside down, its more stable.
On a grassy area, that's fine. On hard pavement or concrete, the shifters get scratched up.
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Old 11-14-22, 10:22 AM
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Your employer needs to install a bike rack.
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Old 11-14-22, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UnCruel View Post
Your employer needs to install a bike rack.
Or get permission from your employer to install a secure bike rack and DIY
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