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Old 01-20-23, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Riding fake miles. I think I finally found a Zwift group ride that is TOO slow for me.

I did some easy group thing the other day, and it was way too slow. Advertised 18 mph pace but I kept hitting the red gates. It was pretty frustrating so I bailed.

Had a good ride this morning. My legs felt tired and weak in the beginning. All my rides have been zone 2 this month, so when I tried to do tempo today, initally they didn’t want to go. Once they woke up, I felt great. The wind was annoying as always.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Thank God those smoking days are over. I smoked for 43 years, starting in high school. Probably my greatest life achievement was giving that addiction up. Now I have some pals who like to enjoy some bourbon at cigar bars . . . . I say HELL no, I'm not going back down that road again, I'm thankful and blessed that my lungs are in good shape.

I am glad I never started that. I feel like my age group is the last age group to start that. Most of my friends in high school smoked, I just didn’t understand the purpose.
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No mention of a pack of cigarettes in '47. Thankfully my folks never smoked.

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I never smoked one cigarette in my life. In fact, when I was a very little kid, my Mom used to smoke one cigarette after dinner. I told her if she did it again I would run away. She never smoked another. Much later on in life I worked as a truck driver for a small Mom and Pop company. When it was slow, I had to sit in the office with the boss's wife who chain smoked. Now I have three different lung diseases.
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Originally Posted by Jack Tone
I never smoked one cigarette in my life. In fact, when I was a very little kid, my Mom used to smoke one cigarette after dinner. I told her if she did it again I would run away. She never smoked another. Much later on in life I worked as a truck driver for a small Mom and Pop company. When it was slow, I had to sit in the office with the boss's wife who chain smoked. Now I have three different lung diseases.
Damn.

Very good friend of mine, who never smoked a day in his life, died from his wife's second hand smoke. Sad AF.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Funny as hell.

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Old 01-20-23, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I am glad I never started that. I feel like my age group is the last age group to start that. Most of my friends in high school smoked, I just didn’t understand the purpose.
I did, then quit for several years, then started again when I was going through my divorce. I quit again for good three years ago.

also- I haven’t slept until noon since I was in college- amazing
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Never smoked a cigarette or cigar.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I am glad I never started that. I feel like my age group is the last age group to start that. Most of my friends in high school smoked, I just didn’t understand the purpose.
It makes you stink and gives you dragon breath. Oh, and you look cool doing it.

One of the dumbest things you can do.
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I smoked briefly in college 20 years ago. Then I got the flu and that was over.

When I was getting divorced I smoked some weed, but that ended when the divorce went final.
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Disagree on the looks cool factor. Maybe once upon a time, but with all we know today, it just makes you look stupid. IMO
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Originally Posted by datlas
Sadly, I have become quite expert in this issue. I have come to the conclusion that it's not really miles that are the best measure of cable longevity in Shimano shifters, but rather number of shifts. Because I live in a hilly area with generally SHORT "rollers" rather than real hills, I probably shift SEVERAL HUNDRED TIMES on a typical ride. For my type of riding, I am getting somewhere between 2500 and 3000 miles/cable. I expect if I lived in a flat area I would get 10x that lifespan. If I lived in an area with longer ups/downs I would probably get 3X that lifespan (based on shift frequency).
The barrel inside the shifter is too small, it's causing the wires in the cables to work harden and break. It's a design issue, not a user issue. I know dura ace used a special coated cable not too long ago. I don't know if they would help or if the wires are of a different hardness/temper to accommodate that or not. The easiest remedy would be to swap out the cables earlier.
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Old 01-20-23, 12:10 PM
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My Mom smoked, from college age or younger till she was in her 70s. I never smoked for a variety of reasons. One was that I used to be assigned to wash the windows in her car, and the cigarettes left a tarry residue on them which I could see on the paper towel I was using. Another was watching her do what everyone did BITD - toss the lit butt out the window when she was done (usually the drafter, not the actual window. Fellow Olds will know what I mean) That always seemed like a dirty habit. I think, though, one of the big reasons was the smell. I actually liked the smell of the cigarette being lit, and of a burning cigarette. But the smell of the smoke she blew out after a puff had a distinctly different smell that I found very offputting. I ascribed it to the interaction of the smoke with the lungs, and it was different, somehow. I was exposed to that from the age of 0 till I was 21 and moved out on my own.

When I started working at Genentech in 1982, EVERYONE in the lab where I worked smoked. Generally not at the bench, but in the office off the lab, and passing through the lab, and around the building. It's hard to imagine, nowadays, that you'd even think of smoking in a lab, but it happened.
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Originally Posted by big john
It makes you stink and gives you dragon breath. Oh, and you look cool doing it.

One of the dumbest things you can do.
I never smoked but preferred kissing someone who did. It just tasted better. Long ago and in a land far away.
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Check out the light rail grill the strikers in France have. It's got me craving brats!

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I believe the proper pronunciation is "RC Co-cola".

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actually liked the smell of the cigarette being lit, and of a burning cigarette

To this day I enjoy the smell of one cigarette burning. Smoking is a very rare thing here, due in large part to the expense. They are most frequently bought one at a time.
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actually liked the smell of the cigarette being lit, and of a burning cigarette

To this day I enjoy the smell of one cigarette burning. Smoking is a very rare thing here, due in large part to the expense. They are most frequently bought one at a time.
Know exactly what you mean.
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I started smoking my senior year of HS ('86), and was a regular - but not heavy - smoker until I started getting more serious about bike riding in '91. During my 15 years off the bike, my wife and I got in a habit of having a late-night weekend cigarette on our patio for a little while, but that didn't last very long. Glad to have that all long behind me now, and it's good to see that in my kids' generation, it's almost non-existent.
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Originally Posted by ls01
The barrel inside the shifter is too small, it's causing the wires in the cables to work harden and break. It's a design issue, not a user issue. I know dura ace used a special coated cable not too long ago. I don't know if they would help or if the wires are of a different hardness/temper to accommodate that or not. The easiest remedy would be to swap out the cables earlier.
I had heard the turning radius inside the shifter is quite small/tight and that is what causes fast wear/breakage. In any case, I have come to accept this and am sensitive to the earliest signs of cable fraying (subtle delay in going to the smaller cogs) and have a bunch of spare cables on the pegboard.

I have tried using the fancier coated cables but they seem to wear just as fast. It’s not really friction but repeated bending of the cable, I think, that causes the problem.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I had heard the turning radius inside the shifter is quite small/tight and that is what causes fast wear/breakage. In any case, I have come to accept this and am sensitive to the earliest signs of cable fraying (subtle delay in going to the smaller cogs) and have a bunch of spare cables on the pegboard.

I have tried using the fancier coated cables but they seem to wear just as fast. It’s not really friction but repeated bending of the cable, I think, that causes the problem.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Big Button is trying to get you to go electronic.
Must resist…..MUST RESIST!!!
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