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Road Cycling ďIt is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.Ē -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 01-27-23, 11:41 AM
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Old 01-27-23, 11:47 AM
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I figured out why the ride back home was so hard yesterday. I knew about the headwind of course but didn't realize it was also uphill the whole way back...

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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
As the 74th-to-last rider in the world not to have it, that makes me feel better.

Itís more expensive, I canít use the app becuase Im scared it will turn my groupset into a paper weight. Itís not much lighter if at all. ******g dumb.

Even before this happened, I was already debating if my next bike would have it. I donít get any benefit from it, but I canít even trust the stupid ******g lights to tell me itís good to go.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
As the 74th-to-last rider in the world not to have it, that makes me feel better.
I won't pay for it so I'll probably never get it. Assuming I ever ride again. Same for tubeless. They are both solutions to a problem I don't have.
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Old 01-27-23, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I won't pay for it so I'll probably never get it. Assuming I ever ride again. Same for tubeless. They are both solutions to a problem I don't have.

Soon you might be forced to get it. If you want more than Tiagra on your next bike purchase.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
<==75th. Or is it 73?
I included you and [MENTION=107711]datlas[/MENTION] in the group.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Soon you might be forced to get it. If you want more than Tiagra on your next bike purchase.
I turn 60 this year and don't know how my surgery will turn out. I just got a new bike before my injury. I rode my last bike 16 years and plan on doing the same with the new one.

tl;dr

I probably bought my last bike.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I turn 60 this year and don't know how my surgery will turn out. I just got a new bike before my injury. I rode my last bike 16 years and plan on doing the same with the new one.

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I probably bought my last bike.
Every time I look in my closet, I have the thought that I'll never have to buy another pair of shoes or something.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Every time I look in my closet, I have the thought that I'll never have to buy another pair of shoes or something.
I've said that about dress shoes. Sad.
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Took the front tire off and went over it super-carefully and found a sub-mm glass shard which I believe was the culprit.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Soon you might be forced to get it. If you want more than Tiagra on your next bike purchase.
I'm just gonna keep running turn-of-the-century 9-speed Shimano.

Might get this 7700 parts bike if they'll take $200. They're asking $300 which I'd gladly pay if I liked the wheels at all.

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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I turn 60 this year and don't know how my surgery will turn out. I just got a new bike before my injury. I rode my last bike 16 years and plan on doing the same with the new one.

tl;dr

I probably bought my last bike.
I have a cool trek 5500 thatís not etap I could sell you.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
The Madone brings me no joy. I never ride it. Really debating with myself to sell it. This was kind of the icing on the cake. I prolly won’t sell it because I would take such a huge hit. There’s a bike swap event tomorrow I wish I could go too.
What do you dislike about the Madone that you prefer about the Emonda or Ritchey?
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Old 01-27-23, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I'm just gonna keep running turn-of-the-century 9-speed Shimano.

Might get this 7700 parts bike if they'll take $200. They're asking $300 which I'd gladly pay if I liked the wheels at all.

That saddle probably doubles the weight of the bike.

EDIT: 7700 is still one of my favorite groupsets of all time.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I included you and [MENTION=107711]datlas[/MENTION] in the group.
In!

I am glad I upgraded the Habanero to Ultegra R8000, that may be the last really good groupset that supports cable shifting and rim brakes.

I am askeered that in 5-7 years if/when this wears out, I may be forced to get an entirely new bike with electronic shifting and disc brakes, or else become a C&V retrogrouch.

The Habanero, which I think of as the Saturn of road bikes, is only 13 years old and maybe has about 75k miles on it. I am hoping it can get to 25 and 200k like the Saturn. Stay tuned.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
What do you dislike about the Madone that you prefer about the Emonda or Ritchey?

The Ritchey is smooth, responds well, climbs the best, and with the carbon wheels is the lightest of the 3. Also seems to get up an go effortlessly, and maintains speed. Did I mention smooth? Above everything else, I think it fits me the best, itís looks awesome. Itís also a constant reminder of what a bike is, itís simple and I have some of my best PRs on it, which throws the aero out the window.

The emonda, is fun, but it was only purchased for 2 reasons. Wife said yes, and It replaced an old beat up groupset. I havnt figured this bike out yet. Some days it feels fast and responsive others if feels like a dog. It isnít as light as I wanted. I wrote to trek about my ďcrit bikeĒ idea. Havnt heard anything yet.

The madone, feels heavy. Somewhat smooth, and accelerates smoothly while in the saddle. Canít figure the fit out for me. I havnt cut the steerer tube becuase I canít try it out with the cockpit thatís on it. Some days this doesnít bother me but other days I feel like the bars should be dropped. For as expensive as it was I just feel like it should add some thrill and its not there. Ironically, my cheapest bike, The Ritchey brings me the most joy.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I've said that about dress shoes. Sad.
Dress shoes are a dead certainty in my case.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Itís more expensive, I canít use the app becuase Im scared it will turn my groupset into a paper weight. Itís not much lighter if at all. ******g dumb.

Even before this happened, I was already debating if my next bike would have it. I donít get any benefit from it, but I canít even trust the stupid ******g lights to tell me itís good to go.
you know- you can use the ap without taking a firmware update.

Iíd call bonuses of electronic
1- no frayed shift cables in middle of hilly ride leaving you with either 48-11 or 31-11 as gear
2- shifting is always perfect
3-set and forget
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
The Ritchey is smooth, responds well, climbs the best, and with the carbon wheels is the lightest of the 3. Also seems to get up an go effortlessly, and maintains speed. Did I mention smooth? Above everything else, I think it fits me the best, itís looks awesome. Itís also a constant reminder of what a bike is, itís simple and I have some of my best PRs on it, which throws the aero out the window.

The emonda, is fun, but it was only purchased for 2 reasons. Wife said yes, and It replaced an old beat up groupset. I havnt figured this bike out yet. Some days it feels fast and responsive others if feels like a dog. It isnít as light as I wanted. I wrote to trek about my ďcrit bikeĒ idea. Havnt heard anything yet.

The madone, feels heavy. Somewhat smooth, and accelerates smoothly while in the saddle. Canít figure the fit out for me. I havnt cut the steerer tube becuase I canít try it out with the cockpit thatís on it. Some days this doesnít bother me but other days I feel like the bars should be dropped. For as expensive as it was I just feel like it should add some thrill and its not there. Ironically, my cheapest bike, The Ritchey brings me the most joy.
Despite our friend from TN's opinion about emotions related to bicycles...go with your gut. IMO, passion matters, especially for those of us who participate in this sport for the fun of it more so than utility, or pure competition.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The front tire on the Litespeed got a small cut that causes a *tic-tic-tic* sound I can hear when on quiet back roads. I think it got there from some glass that also punctured the tube, but I don't know for sure.
Whatís a Ďtubeí? They still make those?
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
you know- you can use the ap without taking a firmware update.

Iíd call bonuses of electronic
1- no frayed shift cables in middle of hilly ride leaving you with either 48-11 or 31-11 as gear
2- shifting is always perfect
3-set and forget

You know whatís not awesome. When it tells you itís good to go, and then it dies. I would rather take my chances with cables. If I had gone to Charlottesville I would have been ****ed.
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Regarding mechanical group sets, Campy still makes 12 speed mechanical groups with rim brakes and it's good stuff. It would be perfect on an old Habanero.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Despite our friend from TN's opinion about emotions related to bicycles...go with your gut. IMO, passion matters, especially for those of us who participate in this sport for the fun of it more so than utility, or pure competition.

I would love to have a competitive edge in a race, but it doesnít feel like the madone is offering me any.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
If you're ****ing the bar tape, you're doing it wrong.
Back when I was a ute, with my 40# early 70s Ten Speed, the bar tape got ****ed and I was not able to un**** it.
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