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As the Jewish mystics were fond of saying, “those who understand will understand.”
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It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
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It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
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It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
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You people have an unhealthy relationship with eggs.
Reminds me of this.
Reminds me of this.
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I noticed this today, while pulling it out of the car. Pretty sure it’s not new. With a crack in that location, would you still ride the bike?
I think I am actually more concerned with, will the bike assplode? Should I just monitor the crack to make sure it doesn’t get worse? Just put this bike on the trainer and forget about racing it? Look for a new frame? Only use it for leisure?
could have a lifetime warranty - take to a Trek dealer and inquire
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I'm always afraid if I make a warranty claim on something expensive with a lifetime warranty that it might be cheaper for the company to kill me than fix it.
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also have a Tag Heuer ... F1 model or something like that ... needs a battery - brought it to a jeweler that is a Tag retailer for battery replacement - but they said it should be returned to the manufacturer for a ‘tuneup’ or service or whatever ... so now it just sits in a drawer
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I wear Swatch watches - have a bunch of them - been wearing them since the 80’s (almost exclusively)
also have a Tag Heuer ... F1 model or something like that ... needs a battery - brought it to a jeweler that is a Tag retailer for battery replacement - but they said it should be returned to the manufacturer for a ‘tuneup’ or service or whatever ... so now it just sits in a drawer
also have a Tag Heuer ... F1 model or something like that ... needs a battery - brought it to a jeweler that is a Tag retailer for battery replacement - but they said it should be returned to the manufacturer for a ‘tuneup’ or service or whatever ... so now it just sits in a drawer
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Here's some quality 80's music for you.
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I wear Swatch watches - have a bunch of them - been wearing them since the 80’s (almost exclusively)
also have a Tag Heuer ... F1 model or something like that ... needs a battery - brought it to a jeweler that is a Tag retailer for battery replacement - but they said it should be returned to the manufacturer for a ‘tuneup’ or service or whatever ... so now it just sits in a drawer
also have a Tag Heuer ... F1 model or something like that ... needs a battery - brought it to a jeweler that is a Tag retailer for battery replacement - but they said it should be returned to the manufacturer for a ‘tuneup’ or service or whatever ... so now it just sits in a drawer
OTOH, some of my best finds were watches that stopped running 50+ years ago and got tossed in a drawer, because $20 for service was more than $15 for a Timex. Sometimes, all they need is a service* to run for decades more.
*"Service" means taking the movement all the way apart, cleaning everything completely, inspecting the parts, reassembling, and regulating. A pro can do all but the regulating in about an hour and a half.
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It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
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BITD, servicing a watch every year or two was the price of having a reliable watch. Then along came first Timex, who were able to make a cheap, reliable, disposable watch. And then quartz. And now almost nobody remembers that. Oils dry up. Crap gets in it. Old gummy oil plus a bit of dirt, and you've got a wonderful abrasive!
OTOH, some of my best finds were watches that stopped running 50+ years ago and got tossed in a drawer, because $20 for service was more than $15 for a Timex. Sometimes, all they need is a service* to run for decades more.
*"Service" means taking the movement all the way apart, cleaning everything completely, inspecting the parts, reassembling, and regulating. A pro can do all but the regulating in about an hour and a half.
OTOH, some of my best finds were watches that stopped running 50+ years ago and got tossed in a drawer, because $20 for service was more than $15 for a Timex. Sometimes, all they need is a service* to run for decades more.
*"Service" means taking the movement all the way apart, cleaning everything completely, inspecting the parts, reassembling, and regulating. A pro can do all but the regulating in about an hour and a half.
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Before the change a BF member bought a beautiful used Madone which cracked and Trek said nope, sorry.
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It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.
I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.
That doesn’t seem normal to me.
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