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Old 01-30-23, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
I need to know what a PMC is in order to answer your question.
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I don't understand what you are saying. I know all the words but put them together and I'm lost. Did I have a stroke?
As the Jewish mystics were fond of saying, “those who understand will understand.”
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It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.

So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.

I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.

That doesn’t seem normal to me.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I won’t bore you with the rest of the details..
Too late.
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Did I have a stroke?
Maybe
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Stop moaning about the price of eggs.
I never started.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
I miss flying R/C, but there's no way I could get back in to flying powered models at the moment because I don't have the space for charging infrastructure and storage.

Now what I really want is a nice F3K discus launch glider. But talk about an expensive airframe
yeah the steps from sport model to anything higher is x 10..
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.

So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.

I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.

That doesn’t seem normal to me.
check the axel. Make sure they dont protrude past the dropouts
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.

So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.

I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.

That doesn’t seem normal to me.
I don't know how strong your hands are, but closing the skewer is supposed to leave an imprint on your hand. Not like reading the logo, but at least a visible mark. BUT, you really should make sure your axles are shorter than the space in the dropouts.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Maybe
Here's some quality 80's music for you.
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You people have an unhealthy relationship with eggs.

Reminds me of this.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06



I noticed this today, while pulling it out of the car. Pretty sure it’s not new. With a crack in that location, would you still ride the bike?

I think I am actually more concerned with, will the bike assplode? Should I just monitor the crack to make sure it doesn’t get worse? Just put this bike on the trainer and forget about racing it? Look for a new frame? Only use it for leisure?
Trek OCLV frame ?

could have a lifetime warranty - take to a Trek dealer and inquire
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
"I can eat fifty eggs"
"Nobody can eat afford 50 eggs."
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Originally Posted by t2p
Trek OCLV frame ?

could have a lifetime warranty - take to a Trek dealer and inquire
I'm always afraid if I make a warranty claim on something expensive with a lifetime warranty that it might be cheaper for the company to kill me than fix it.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I paid $40 for mine, but it came as part of a lot of 2 watches, and it was the lesser of the two. However, it needed a service, wherein I discovered it also needed a new lower balance cap jewel retention spring. And a lower balance cap jewel.
I wear Swatch watches - have a bunch of them - been wearing them since the 80’s (almost exclusively)

also have a Tag Heuer ... F1 model or something like that ... needs a battery - brought it to a jeweler that is a Tag retailer for battery replacement - but they said it should be returned to the manufacturer for a ‘tuneup’ or service or whatever ... so now it just sits in a drawer
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
You people have an unhealthy relationship with eggs.
Shut.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I don’t suppose anyone here who uses a PMC is old and decrepit enough to consider mucking around with the ATL time constant…
wut
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Originally Posted by t2p
I wear Swatch watches - have a bunch of them - been wearing them since the 80’s (almost exclusively)

also have a Tag Heuer ... F1 model or something like that ... needs a battery - brought it to a jeweler that is a Tag retailer for battery replacement - but they said it should be returned to the manufacturer for a ‘tuneup’ or service or whatever ... so now it just sits in a drawer
Easy to change the battery. No need to send it to Tag. I’ve changed the one in my F1 many times. Batteries are about $5, maybe less. Just be careful with the o-ring gasket.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
Here's some quality 80's music for you.
https://youtu.be/UtvmTu4zAMg
Only if on vinyl.
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Here's some quality 80's music for you.
Were you a Madonna fan back then?
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Originally Posted by t2p
I wear Swatch watches - have a bunch of them - been wearing them since the 80’s (almost exclusively)

also have a Tag Heuer ... F1 model or something like that ... needs a battery - brought it to a jeweler that is a Tag retailer for battery replacement - but they said it should be returned to the manufacturer for a ‘tuneup’ or service or whatever ... so now it just sits in a drawer
BITD, servicing a watch every year or two was the price of having a reliable watch. Then along came first Timex, who were able to make a cheap, reliable, disposable watch. And then quartz. And now almost nobody remembers that. Oils dry up. Crap gets in it. Old gummy oil plus a bit of dirt, and you've got a wonderful abrasive!

OTOH, some of my best finds were watches that stopped running 50+ years ago and got tossed in a drawer, because $20 for service was more than $15 for a Timex. Sometimes, all they need is a service* to run for decades more.

*"Service" means taking the movement all the way apart, cleaning everything completely, inspecting the parts, reassembling, and regulating. A pro can do all but the regulating in about an hour and a half.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.

So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.

I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.

That doesn’t seem normal to me.
Someone upthread asked you to check to see if the axle nub is protruding past the outer edge of the dropout. Did you do that? If it is, the skewer is useless, in a tightening capacity anyway.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
BITD, servicing a watch every year or two was the price of having a reliable watch. Then along came first Timex, who were able to make a cheap, reliable, disposable watch. And then quartz. And now almost nobody remembers that. Oils dry up. Crap gets in it. Old gummy oil plus a bit of dirt, and you've got a wonderful abrasive!

OTOH, some of my best finds were watches that stopped running 50+ years ago and got tossed in a drawer, because $20 for service was more than $15 for a Timex. Sometimes, all they need is a service* to run for decades more.

*"Service" means taking the movement all the way apart, cleaning everything completely, inspecting the parts, reassembling, and regulating. A pro can do all but the regulating in about an hour and a half.
A $600+ service on something like my Speedy is worth it. A $600+ service on a $700 TAG F1 quartz is not. Mine has lasted at least 15 years on just battery changes. And replaced a few silicon straps.
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Originally Posted by t2p
Trek OCLV frame ?

could have a lifetime warranty - take to a Trek dealer and inquire
Trek warranty was not transferable until recently, and then only 3 years with some restrictions and you must show proof of original purchase.

Before the change a BF member bought a beautiful used Madone which cracked and Trek said nope, sorry.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Were you a Madonna fan back then?
Madonna was a hot number in.her day. Not so much now.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
It’s also doing something I have brought up before and I don’t understand.

So I know I mentioned in the past with The Lance, trek 5500, when I had the mavic krysiums on it, I had too tighten the skewers super tight in order for the wheels to not have play. I have since switch wheels to the old mavic opens with the shimano hubs and I am having the same problem. So then I thought maybe the superteam skewers suck. So just now I put a brand new never been used skewer on the rear wheel and tightened it to a “normal” tightness and sure enough rear wheel has play.

I tighten the skewer more to where it almost uncomfortable to close it, play is gone.

That doesn’t seem normal to me.
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