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Road Cycling ďIt is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.Ē -- Ernest Hemingway

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To expand - Shimano introduced 130mm rear spacing when they introduced 8 speed Dura Ace back around 1991. They needed the extra 4mm for the extra cog. There were a few years when both 126 and 130 coexisted because lower level groups were still 7 speed, but that was all over before 2000. My 1994 Cannondale R500 came with 7 speeds, and 128mm spacing, so you could fit a 130 hub or a 126.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I just took it off and the axle fits in the frame the way itís supposed to. I threw the shimano hub back on the ritchey, and with out having to clamp the skewer down, There is no play. Put it back on the trek, play. I have to really crank the skewer tight.


This isnít a big deal, I Just wanted more to know if I am doing something wrong.
Define "play".
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Where's WhyFi? I've seen him post fake rides on Stava recently, but haven't seen him around here for a bit.
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I can't stand wearing watches. I tolerated it when I was a metal player because I had to keep parts in tanks for varying amounts of time and couldnt do that with a phone and run the hoist at the same time.


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Originally Posted by datlas
High spoke count. Tubulars or clinchers??
Solid rubber. No fuss, no muss.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Define "play".

With the bike upright on both wheels, if I grab the top of the wheel and shake it, I can feel the wheel wobble.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Where's WhyFi? I've seen him post fake rides on Stava recently, but haven't seen him around here for a bit.

He is busy with his wood. Take that as you want it.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
He is busy with his wood. Take that as you want it.
As someone who also gets buys with his wood from time to time, I fully understand.
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I use a Casio F-91W. Battery lasts about 5 years. Current watch is maybe 8 years old and on 2nd battery which is easy to change.

It's clearly the Saturn of watches. Cheap, plastic, and good enough for me.
I had one of those. It lasted, like, forever.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
It's snowing.

A near miss. We got maybe a quarter inch dusting last night, along with some scattered flurries this morning.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
NPAOTD

There's one of those right up the road I think, unless those setups with the twisted belt were used by different makes. Can't recall what it was, Benz perhaps.

I've got to have other pics of it somewhere in the archives, but this is the only one tagged with the museum name. I should head over to check out the new digs for the Martin Museum. They recently moved into a much larger space.


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Originally Posted by DougRNS


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Hahaha. half awake phone typing is bad
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
With the bike upright on both wheels, if I grab the top of the wheel and shake it, I can feel the wheel wobble.
I think it may be your bearing preload. Which wheels are these? Sorry, this has been spread over so many posts I can't keep track.
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Originally Posted by datlas
High spoke count. Tubulars or clinchers??
According to the Wikipedia, the third iteration featured wood spoke wheels which were considered an upgrade.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I think it may be your bearing preload. Which wheels are these? Sorry, this has been spread over so many posts I can't keep track.

This are the shimano wheels, mavic open rims.

If itís the preload, why would they not be loose on one bike and not the other?
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Just measured the drop on all of my bikes, to see how they compare. My two rim brake bikes the drop is 5inches.

My two disc, the madone and the emonda, the drop is 4.5 inches.

I know the brakes have nothing to do with this but found it interesting.

The emonda the stem is slammed as low as it can go, the emonda is fully erect with spacers. Iíve already decided I want a stem with more drop for the emonda. Currently itís 130 6 degrees of drop. I would like to increase the drop of the stem to 10-12 degrees.

Iím thinking about removing 2 spacers on the madone to see how it feels. I should have measured my reach at that same time. I have measured that before and all of my bikes were the same. 27.5 inches seems to be what I remember but I will check when I get home.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
A near miss. We got maybe a quarter inch dusting last night, along with some scattered flurries this morning.
I guess Hamburg caught it all

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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Just measured the drop on all of my bikes, to see how they compare. My two rim brake bikes the drop is 5inches.

My two disc, the madone and the emonda, the drop is 4.5 inches.

I know the brakes have nothing to do with this but found it interesting.

The emonda the stem is slammed as low as it can go, the emonda is fully erect with spacers. Iíve already decided I want a stem with more drop for the emonda. Currently itís 130 6 degrees of drop. I would like to increase the drop of the stem to 10-12 degrees.

Iím thinking about removing 2 spacers on the madone to see how it feels. I should have measured my reach at that same time. I have measured that before and all of my bikes were the same. 27.5 inches seems to be what I remember but I will check when I get home.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I guess Hamburg caught it all

Looks like my neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
This are the shimano wheels, mavic open rims.

If itís the preload, why would they not be loose on one bike and not the other?
Because tightening the QR makes the play go away, and you've assured us the axle's not too long.

There are only a few places the play could be, and one is in the bearings. If you're CLOSE to zero play in the bearings, but not quite there, tightening QRs or TAs can tighten it up. This is why adjusting hubs is such a PITA with cone wrenches. You have to take the wheel out of the dropouts to adjust it, and you think you have it adjusted right, and you put it back in the dropouts and it's too tight. So you take it out, make a tiny adjustment, put it back in the dropouts and there's play. Lather, rinse, repeat.

When you rock the wheel, and you feel play, can you see one or the other end of the QR skewer moving relative to the dropout?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
According to the Wikipedia, the third iteration featured wood spoke wheels which were considered an upgrade.
Fewer spokes. More aero.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
The road to timtakdom is slippery.
Yeah, we are all just one slip away from goofy glasses.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Yeah, we are all just one slip away from goofy glasses.
And the best aero position by far.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
And the best aero position by far.
And no chest parachutes, as we ride our Group Ride bikes.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
The road to timtakdom is slippery.
I donít understand.
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