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Old 02-14-23, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Too soon to tell.
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It's OK for a little while, but then you start to yearn for a view of something approximating a horizon.
I won't mind more areas of open space, for variety. Not much open fieldage in the 865.
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I was near the GA border on Saturday, but safely within the TN side.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Those wind speeds don't even merit comment around here.
Same here.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
wut
Not enough plant visible to make an identification. And it will be killed by winter before we can make an accurate determination.

Alas, we'll never know.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Now, I really need some help from you guys, so listen up!

My titanium commuting etc. bike came with a ******, ugly, crank and paired BSA standard BB, which I switched 3 or 4 years ago to a 6800 crank from another bike and a new matching BB. Within a year, the thing was groaning under load and could be temporarily quieted with PTFE tape on the threads. Initially the tape would work for a few months, but ultimately it only lasted a couple of weeks. So, I bought a new 9100 BB and all was good for a few months, until this week when that one began to crackle.

Back when this started, I emailed the builder who said they use PTFE tape too and if thatís not working to take it to a bike shop. I wonder what a shop is doing to do, face the shell? Any other ideas? A better thread treatment? Tape it up again and sell it?
I'm sorry. All I have is the story about replacing my BB only to discover it was the seatpost. I could tell that again, if you think it would help.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Now, I really need some help from you guys, so listen up!

My titanium commuting etc. bike came with a ******, ugly, crank and paired BSA standard BB, which I switched 3 or 4 years ago to a 6800 crank from another bike and a new matching BB. Within a year, the thing was groaning under load and could be temporarily quieted with PTFE tape on the threads. Initially the tape would work for a few months, but ultimately it only lasted a couple of weeks. So, I bought a new 9100 BB and all was good for a few months, until this week when that one began to crackle.

Back when this started, I emailed the builder who said they use PTFE tape too and if thatís not working to take it to a bike shop. I wonder what a shop is doing to do, face the shell? Any other ideas? A better thread treatment? Tape it up again and sell it?
I have never had an issue with creaking on my Lynskey R350. Campagnolo crankset, so the bearings are a pressfit on the crank axle and loose fit in the BB cups. BSA bottom bracket, so threaded. The threads and the bearing surface of the cups are lightly greased with Mobil 1 synthetic grease before installation. The stuff is kind of like Ibuprofen for my bikes. Everything that creaks gets it as the first line treatment.

I didn't notice, but did you put grease or anti seize on the seat post? Or carbon fiber paste? So many places can sound like a BB creak. Chain ring bolts? All three of my Lynskeys look like the BB shell was faced when they arrived from Chattanooga.

Right now, the winter commuter is clattering like crazy. I noticed that the pedals had visible lateral play and chatter when I spin them. Spank Spoon in 110 mm. A rebuild kit is on the way. Winter is hard on bikes.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Now, I really need some help from you guys, so listen up!

My titanium commuting etc. bike came with a ******, ugly, crank and paired BSA standard BB, which I switched 3 or 4 years ago to a 6800 crank from another bike and a new matching BB. Within a year, the thing was groaning under load and could be temporarily quieted with PTFE tape on the threads. Initially the tape would work for a few months, but ultimately it only lasted a couple of weeks. So, I bought a new 9100 BB and all was good for a few months, until this week when that one began to crackle.

Back when this started, I emailed the builder who said they use PTFE tape too and if thatís not working to take it to a bike shop. I wonder what a shop is doing to do, face the shell? Any other ideas? A better thread treatment? Tape it up again and sell it?
Can they face a titanium shell? I would grease everything and maybe tape the threads. I don't know what else you could do.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Not enough plant visible to make an identification. And it will be killed by winter before we can make an accurate determination.

Alas, we'll never know.
I know. They come back every year.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Not enough plant visible to make an identification. And it will be killed by winter before we can make an accurate determination.

Alas, we'll never know.
Winter is what makes Tulips come up. If the weather doesn't get cold enough, they won't show. You can put them in the freezer to fool them.
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Originally Posted by big john
Can they face a titanium shell? I would grease everything and maybe tape the threads. I don't know what else you could do.
yes

my Litespeed BB shell was faced before BB was installed

head tube also faced (before headset installed)
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Originally Posted by t2p
yes

my Litespeed BB shell was faced before BB was installed

head tube also faced (before headset installed)
I meant can a shop do it.
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Lordy that was long. Took forever for the spinal pain blocker thing to wear off. It was basically an entire work day at the hotel lobby and Mad Greens and hospital (8th ring of Hell). And because it got cold the TPMS light came on and panicked me. As is, we got back and she's eating and will soon be in bed, and then I can, and hopefully tomorrow is slightly smoother. She is doing better than after the first hip.

Thanks all for the well-wishes!

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Thanks all.

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I'm sorry. All I have is the story about replacing my BB only to discover it was the seatpost. I could tell that again, if you think it would help.
I’ve mis-located lots of noises in my time too. I’m afraid I’ve nailed this one, but see below.

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I have never had an issue with creaking on my Lynskey R350. Campagnolo crankset, so the bearings are a pressfit on the crank axle and loose fit in the BB cups. BSA bottom bracket, so threaded. The threads and the bearing surface of the cups are lightly greased with Mobil 1 synthetic grease before installation. The stuff is kind of like Ibuprofen for my bikes. Everything that creaks gets it as the first line treatment.

I didn't notice, but did you put grease or anti seize on the seat post? Or carbon fiber paste? So many places can sound like a BB creak. Chain ring bolts? All three of my Lynskeys look like the BB shell was faced when they arrived from Chattanooga.

Right now, the winter commuter is clattering like crazy. I noticed that the pedals had visible lateral play and chatter when I spin them. Spank Spoon in 110 mm. A rebuild kit is on the way. Winter is hard on bikes.
This is a Lynskey too. I will do the chainring bolts and seatpost just for completeness and because I am aware that that I’m completely capable of idiocy.

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Can they face a titanium shell? I would grease everything and maybe tape the threads. I don't know what else you could do.
Is machining Ti an exotic thing? Maybe a really good shop, which I’m not sure exists locally since I never use any of them.
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No offense to Indy, but Pittsburg is much nicer than Philly.
Did you stay downtown? I like going there
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Those wind speeds don't even merit comment around here.
Same. We were in the upper 40 mph range yesterday for gusts. Sustained 20+.
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Got all gussied up this AM to ride, tights, jacket, gloves, booties etc- get outside and it starts to rain.

Itís still raining but itís going to be 55 with 15mph southerly wind today, should be a fun lunch ride
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Originally Posted by big john
I meant can a shop do it.
oops sorry - misread

many shops do have the facing tools - although many rarely use them when they install bottom brackets and headsets

my frame builder / tech friend (that unfortunately passed away) faced every bottom bracket shell and head tube on new frames and before he installed new parts

one time he illustrated the difference on a frame before the shell was faced - when the bottom bracket was tightened the spindle drag increased (when rotated) ... slight distortion apparently due to the faces not being parallel

I believe he used the same tool on all different types of frames - steel, aluminum, Ti, carbon ...

been a long time - but I don’t recall more difficulty with a Ti frame

I replaced steel chainring bolts on one of my bikes with Ti chainring bolts - unfortunately with the wrong bolts that were just a tad longer (for triple instead of double) ... could not loosen them - had to use multiple Dremel bits for hours to remove the Ti chainring bolts ... Ti on Ti cranked down - bad - almost as if they were welded

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Originally Posted by MoAlpha

Is machining Ti an exotic thing? Maybe a really good shop, which Iím not sure exists locally since I never use any of them.
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I believe he used the same tool on all different types of frames - steel, aluminum, Ti, carbon ...
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been a long time - but I donít recall more difficulty with a Ti frame
I really don't know if a ti bb shell would be more difficult than other metals but I've heard it doesn't act like other metals. I would think if it can be done by the framebuilder than there are probably people in shops who can do it.

I would want to know a bit about someone who was going to be cutting, welding, or bending on my frame.
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Originally Posted by big john
I really don't know if a ti bb shell would be more difficult than other metals but I've heard it doesn't act like other metals. I would think if it can be done by the framebuilder than there are probably people in shops who can do it.

I would want to know a bit about someone who was going to be cutting, welding, or bending on my frame.
agree

I believe my friend was most concerned with facing the shells of the composite frames - some had metal inner sleeve/shell basically ‘glued’ to the composite shell ... was concerned the metal inner shell would begin to rotate / spin

he did not have issue with my early OCLV frame - although I’ve heard the adhesive on some frames was not sufficient and the inner shell would rotate
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They got a little snow up north! Reports of snow falling but not sticking in Las Vegas and Tucson!

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Did you stay downtown? I like going there

Yes, westin downtown. Had to be the ****tiest westin I have ever been to. Walls were paper thin, and a high school stomp team was above me.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
Got all gussied up this AM to ride, tights, jacket, gloves, booties etc- get outside and it starts to rain.

Itís still raining but itís going to be 55 with 15mph southerly wind today, should be a fun lunch ride

Went to work at 3 am wonít get home til after 10 pm. Wasnít too bent out of shape, Iíll just ride tomorrow after taking my daughter to school, iíll sleep in.


NOPE, doctors appointment at 10 am for Simon. Looks like iíll be waking up at 3 am to ride. Sleeps not important.
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As y'all may remember, I'm a big fan of vintage watches, and of course, a child of the Space Age, so I think it's really cool that Bulova is producing an homage to their original Accutron Astronaut series.

There's just one thing that bothers me. The WHOLE POINT of the Accutron was that it was so advanced, that it was the first watch in history to do away with the balance wheel. So, what does Bulova put in their Accutron Astronaut homage?




A mechanical movement.

That would be like Shimano doing an homage to the original ST-7400 brifters, but making them friction shifting instead of SIS.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Yes, westin downtown. Had to be the ****tiest westin I have ever been to. Walls were paper thin, and a high school stomp team was above me.
I always stay at the Courtyard on Penn Ave. Itís quiet and nice and about 10 minutes from the Steel Building.
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