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Old 03-03-23, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
They also make sense for two-car households; back pre-Covid AG was talking about getting a Leaf for commuting with my GX still around for road trips. Much easier to change one car of several to an EV than the only car.
True. But until the charging thing is worked out, they won't be supplanting IC-powered cars.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
They also make sense for two-car households; back pre-Covid AG was talking about getting a Leaf for commuting with my GX still around for road trips. Much easier to change one car of several to an EV than the only car.
This is true. I've always said that I would never own one as my only car.
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Originally Posted by mschwett
the weight of EVs just kills me. of course theyíre crazy fast but iím so used to tossing around a 2700-3200lb carÖ 😬
Yes, the Taycan is a whole lot faster than my 981 was, but the 981 was much more fun.

Taycan - 8.9hp per pound (apprx)

CaymanGTS - 8.6hp per pound (apprx)

Cayman was the more fun driver.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Yes, the Taycan is a whole lot faster than my 981 was, but the 981 was much more fun.

Taycan - 8.9hp per pound (apprx)

CaymanGTS - 8.6hp per pound (apprx)

Cayman was the more fun driver.
I thiiiiiiink you may have flipped that.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I thiiiiiiink you may have flipped that.
How so?

2021 Taycan 4S - 5,000 pounds and 562 hp

2015 Cayman GTS - 3000 pounds and 350 hp.

Numbers are approximate and rounded.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
Enticing. How is the pavement and the traffic?

In that area, I've only done Mt. Baldy, which was a pretty decent challenge. Looks like Baldy is shorter but steeper than Hwy 39.
The pavement on Hwy 39 is good until the closed section before you get to Hwy 2. It's 3 or 4 miles from the gate to Hwy 2 (second gate). That section has been closed since the 70s because there are so many rockfalls and it's pretty narrow. Sometimes Caltrans will clean it off and do some patching, sometimes they ignore it. One year a production company wanted to film something there so they cleaned it and fixed all the pavement. It was great for us!

Climbing that part is ok but descending you have to be careful to not cut a tire. I've never had a problem on it but some do.

Near the bottom of 39 there is an off-road park so sometimes there is traffic with trailers. The rest of the road is light most of the time. The other thing is when descending there are 2 small climbs near the bottom. Not a problem unless you are toast from the way up.

Some people make a loop by starting at the bottom of 39 then riding over to the bottom of the 2, then climb the 2 and descend the 39. I've done that over the years and had a glorious time. One time I had my worst bonk ever when I tried to ration water on a hot day.

The there's the Circle of Doom. A race limited to 100 riders which does the loop the other direction with some adds. 9500 feet in the timed 75 miles. Put on by Rahsaan Bahati.
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Originally Posted by big john
The there's the Circle of Doom. A race limited to 100 riders which does the loop the other direction with some adds. 9500 feet in the timed 75 miles. Put on by Rahsaan Bahati.
A friend of mine does the Circle of Doom for fun a couple times a year. This guy also does 100mi MTB rides with 15k-17k' of climbing - solo and unsupported.
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Wanna talk about the weather?

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Originally Posted by Eric F
A friend of mine does the Circle of Doom for fun a couple times a year. This guy also does 100mi MTB rides with 15k-17k' of climbing - solo and unsupported.
Beast! Here are a couple of my favorite pics from climbing 39.


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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
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Originally Posted by big john
Beast! Here are a couple of my favorite pics from climbing 39.
My friend is one of the strongest riders I know - always has been - but he never did much racing. He was part of our relay team for a 4-man 24 hour MTB race in Idyllwild about 20 years ago. During a night lap, his light went out, and he still finished his lap in a faster time than most of the other competitors. His 19yo son is a beast, too. EDIT: He's kind of like Will Z - born to ride bikes.

Personally, I've never been north of East Fork on Hwy 39. Not sure why. Probably my mediocre relationship with climbing.

I've never gone past East Fork on Hwy 39
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I don't like this view but that is what the site is giving me. I'm at work and don't have time to mess around.
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Beast! Here are a couple of my favorite pics from climbing 39.


I canít imagine coming down that on wet roads. Better have your health and life insurance paid in!
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Wanna talk about the weather?

THAT is crazy!
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
How so?

2021 Taycan 4S - 5,000 pounds and 562 hp

2015 Cayman GTS - 3000 pounds and 350 hp.

Numbers are approximate and rounded.
You said hp per lb. Like, 8.6hp/lb. You did lb/hp.

A more convenient number is hp/ton (or hp/1000lbs). Higher is better, and numbers well above 1.
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Originally Posted by thin_concrete
I canít imagine coming down that on wet roads. Better have your health and life insurance paid in!
At least in that last pic you'd just go sliding into the snow. Of course, that could be hard-packed, icy snow.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
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Coffee is sad and needs to be bigger.

I managed to sleep until 5 this morning. Garmin gave me a decent Body Battery (62 - better than most days the last couple of weeks) but with crappy HRV. Was desperately trying to wake up with my jet fuel coffee but feel like I never did.

Of course, did 80 minutes on the trainer, with three tempo efforts.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
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We got about an 1” or so this afternoon. It was pretty Coming down. Soft and fluffy.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Coffee is sad and needs to be bigger.
Quality, not quantity.
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Originally Posted by thin_concrete
I canít imagine coming down that on wet roads. Better have your health and life insurance paid in!
That day that we had to turn around because they hadn't finished clearing the snow, it was only wet where the snow was cut.
I've only descended it once in wet-ish weather. I try to be careful. I have followed a woman friend who tucked and hit 50+mph. I don't even try to do that.
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I may not be cut of for cycling. I am perfectly happy with a big steaming mug of drip-machine brewed Major Dickason's Blend, and feel no need for an espresso machine.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Wanna talk about the weather?
Tomorrow's forecast. The C&V ride is scheduled for 10 and generally takes till about 1. Ma Nature seems laser-focused on causing a 4th cancellation in as many months.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
You said hp per lb. Like, 8.6hp/lb. You did lb/hp.

A more convenient number is hp/ton (or hp/1000lbs). Higher is better, and numbers well above 1.
Now you know why I hire experts when there are any math or science issues in my lawsuits.
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